Thanks. But they are fully capable of seeking legal counsel without our help.
I’m surprised I’m the only person who has had a friend express a view or take an action I think especially unwise, and when I told them, they said essentially, “Thanks, but I don’t want your advice and don’t want to discuss it.” Then I feel the choice is to either drop it, or drop the friend.
I doubt you are, but this is the first time you’ve dropped that tidbit into the thread, unless I missed it.
Anyway, given the circumstances as you have described it, I probably wouldn’t break off the friendship, and I certainly wouldn’t call the police and inform on her. But I also wouldn’t get in the car if she were driving, and I’d offer to drive if we were going someplace together.
Like I’ve said before, this was not an aspect I was interested in when starting the thread. Was surprised that so many folk seemed to focus on it. Also surprised that so many peoples’ experiences with friends seem to differ so much from mine. In my circle, it is a regularly recurring thing - trying to figure out which sleeping dogs to let lie.
Again - my original question was (in my mind) quite narrow. I wasn’t intentionally hiding anything in an attempt to distort anything.
Okay. I think I’ve answered the question you are interested in, then. Best wishes with the friendship.
I meant to suggest to the friend that she might consider seeking legal counsel on her own. She might not have thought of it.
Okay then, pardon me, but I suggest if you want simple yes / no answers with zero discussion of the whys and wherefores that @Loach was 100% correct, the Polls, no discussion would have been a better option.
But that’s a pretty direct contradiction to your statement in the OP -
People have been doing exactly that, and you’re seemingly defensive about it. Perhaps your intent was to limit that question to ONLY when the choice of riding in the car was in question, but everything else informs that decision.
But, now that you’ve made your feelings perfectly clear, I’ll echo @puzzlegal and say that since I’ve given you my ‘no’ answer, apparently the discussion you intended is over. Have a nice day.
my mom had her first driver’s license in1967 or so although she never drove a whole lot she did when she could afford a car … her second license was in 1987 when it was a requirement of getting us back …she only had car insurance when the state of ca pass a law saying you had to in the 90s …
It showed??!
The uninsured asshole has tried to buy a home twice since then. He hasn’t paid a penny to the legal judgement and can’t get a mortgage without settling with me. He can pay me, or I can write it off. While I could comfortably write the debt off (I’m never getting my money after all), I’d rather just keep saying NO to his lenders.
But back to the OP’s now poll only question. No, I would not knowingly ride with an unlicensed driver.
For all I know, none of my friends have valid driver’s licenses. It has never come up in conversation and I think they’d be embarrassed to mention or discuss it.
When I get in the car with someone, I assume they hold a valid license to drive, but I don’t demand to see it.
The only friend I’ve ever had where this has happened, it was due to a drunk driving offense. The friend was hugely embarrassed and ashamed, and would not even let her husband reveal the reason.
So I would not ride with the person. I cannot think of any other circumstance where they wouldn’t reveal a truthful reason for the loss of license (and the story your friend provided is obviously a sham as described - there’s nothing illegal about passing a school bus under those conditions).
That’s one more thing. As someone in that age range, I’d worry that she would be responsible enough to stop driving once she starts having problems. That’s hard enough for everyone, but I’d worry about it even more given the circumstances. This might not be an issue for some years yet, but you never know.