I don’t care about the ridiculous spoilers,air dams, fat exhaust tips,tires with so little rubber between rim and road that they must make the car ride like a Radio Flyer, etc… My rant is about the things these idiots do to head- and tail-lights.
These numbskulls replace tail, stop,turn and backup lights that are visible in the daylight with Christmas tree minilights surrounded by garish, fakey “chrome”. These abominations are showing up on Mustangs, pickups and SUV’s as well.
Why can’t the Feds ban this shit? This trend represents a real danger to the motoring public. They banned picnic coolers with latches that actually latch just because 300 kids in 30 years suffocated inside them; surely more than 300 people nationwide have had accidents attributable to invisible-by-day,nearly-invisible by-night “ricer lights” by now.
And those awful black masks with the child’s-nipple-sized center cutouts people put over their headlights are even more dangerous!!! I saw a Lincoln Navigator with 90+% of its factory headlamp area completely covered in black. THIS CAN NOT BE SAFE!!!
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I too hate ricers. And I’m such a hypocrit - I’m dating one! Oh the humanity! But it’s ok because the other day I told him that his car sucks and I hate it.
Maybe you aren’t as exposed to “rice” where you live. Its ok, I envy you… I’m talking about these lilywhite guys who drive around in import cars with GIANT chinese characters and the “Heartbeat of Japan” stapled across the hood and try to date Asian girls to make them more “yellow”.
** roadkiller**, I feel your pain… My (whitey) SO is going down the inevitable road to rice with his Celica… and even more since the crash where upon he has decided it would be better and cheaper to replace the stock parts with …AFTERMARKET BODYKIT AND CARBON FIBER FENDERS WITH Z gills!!!
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I don’t think I’ve taught that boy anything in a year and a half…
Much of what you say is right. Yes, to each his own, and in your previous post you commented on us saying that we “hated” them, the “ricers” (which I still am not quite sure if that term refers to both car AND driver, or if one depends upon the other etc).
“Hate” IS a pretty strong word. I won’t speak for the OP, but you’re correct. I personnally don’t “hate” the ricers. I am very amused at their attempts to make a teensy little 4-banger into a street rod, though. I mean with YOU, and the other, how did you put it? testosterone laden teens (giggles, my fave men to date, when I was that age), at LEAST succeeded in turning your cars into actual things of speed and beauty.
With the little “souped up” ricers, it’s just funny, and sort of, (hmmm, can’t think of the word) Pathetic? no, too strong…silly? Yes, that’s closer, but there’s SURE to be a better one out there…Futile? Hmmmmmmmmmmm, Well somewhere between those descriptions anyway. And again, THAT being said, of COURSE the little ninnies have the right to “soup up” whatever kind of car they want.
But you have to admit…Those of us who have “real” cars have the right to laugh at them too.
Also, as a home owner, one who formerly lived only a few yards away from a “teen hangout” (a McDonalds/Chevron minimart), I must say that at 2AM, I truly DO “hate” those little snots and their electronically enhanced bass stereo systems!!!
Maybe my memory is worse than I thought, I KNOW we used to love to race, but I don’t remember cranking our stereos to the max in residential areas in the middle of the night. But I digress, maybe that’s a 21st Century thing, not a “ricer” thing (though most of the “boomin’” stereos seem to be contained WITHIN that type of car.
You know, if Honda made a v-8 with the same technology that they do with the b16a Civic Si engine, it would make 400-500 hp.
You know, it’s nice to commute in a car that has eaten Camaro Z28s, Mustangs beyond counting, and has hung with a handful of Corvettes and other “super cars”.
And it still makes around 25 mpg.
Pro stock racers with “dinky little 4-banger” engines are pulling real close to the 7s in the 1320.
I’ve said it before
We hate the guys who badge their car with product they don’t have. We hate the giant wings. Many of us, growing every day, hate the “euro” style taillights. We hate the guys who want to rev on every car on the road and then gets smoked by an Escort or some other family car.
These guys give us, those of us who truly enjoy the art and science of what we do, a bad name.
Just like white trash with kids with no shoes buy pristine glass and $2000 tires on their rust bucket Mopar advertisement.
And body putty. A hundred pounds of body putty on a Camaro. Egh.
Of course, I don’t have that “Gets smoked by an Escort” problem much in my neck of the woods. Or not for long. Someone stupid enough to do something like that tends to run out of car when the weather or road gets nasty. There’s this one stretch of the Saw Mill by the county police station where, every four or five weeks, you see a frontless car. Someone comes around the corner too fast, bounces off the far side, swings back and just abrades the front of the car off against the concrete barrier.
See, I remember when the import ‘tuner’ movement started up. My muscle car friends used to break down in giggles at the sight of a Honda Civic at the track. The attitude was, “What a stupid platform to build on. That guy must have spent 20 grand on all those high-tech pieces to turn a front-wheel-drive econobox into a street racer”. It just seemed wrong. You could get the same performance from a standard rear-wheel-drive muscle car just by dropping lots of cubic inches under the hood. There were plenty of jokes, plenty of condescension, etc.
Then those guys started turning in some serious times. Then people started paying attention, but the muscle car guys still ranted about them constantly. That’s where I first heard the ‘rice burner’ epithet.
But you know what? Those early ‘tuners’ were breaking new ground, and helping build the technology that now gives us cars like the WRX, the Neon SRT-4, etc. Look at that WRX I keep talking about - it gets 27mpg, it qualifies as a low-emissions vehicle, and yet it’ll do 0-60 in 5.4 seconds, corner like a bandit, and its AWD system is simply awesome. its engine makes 227 Horsepower out of 2 Liters, which used to be supercar territory. And, it’s $24,000.
Those ‘ricers’ that don’t build up their cars still get stock reliability, gas mileage, and maybe even maintain their warranties. They are having fun with their cars. Why do you care?
The business about the loud stereos and street racing is a smokescreen. That’s not a ‘ricer’ thing, that’s a young male thing. Guys who own GTOs and Camaros also race them and put 12" subwoofers in the back. You just don’t notice them as much because you approve of their particular automobile choices.
You see very few around, but to call such an animal a ‘ricer’ and denigrate it in favour of a Mustang, well we all have our tastes but given the technology in the Skyline and the sheer grunt of, anything up to 1000BHP it makes the old US muscle car seem like a dinasaur, and not in a flattering way either, since these can do everything in a straight line, and then take it around a corner, sideways, without locking and in total control.
When it comes to fast times over 1/4 miles, or around tight twisty circuits, not much will beat a Westfield XTR 2, only a 1300cc engine, but it weighs 440Kgs, with 180BHP on tap it hits 60 in around 3.9secs, costs around £24K, a skate board with a rocket bolted onto it!
I would have to say in the case of Muscleheads (you know what I mean), they seem to generally take pride and pleasure in their craft. They know their cars inside and out, make modifications that are actual enhancements, and learn some real world mechanical skills in the process. That seems like a nice healthy hobby to me. Ricers are more about image, then about substance, and thats the problem I have. Its only skin deep. And where the hell do they get the money for some of this stuff? Sweating 50 hours a week at McDonalds?
First let me say that I already posted that it is kinda silly for a classic car guy to bust on a ricer because of what they do, as Sam pointed out it is a hobby that should not need approval.
But (the big eraser word ) Yeah I’ve seen the Skyline, for some reason, like almost every piece of rice, it does not seem to realize its claim on the track. Before anybody says it is the driver, there is nothing about the driver when both cars are in gear at 40 to 60 MPH side-by-side and both hit it. The skyline just falls back - it might go better through the turn, but since the Mustang beats it to the turn well the race is over. The WRX does not even come close to a ten year old Z-28 in this situation. There is more to power than just using AWD to cut a good short time, when the speed comes up, real power takes over.
The XTR looks like a full tilt race car, we’ve got them here too.
I’ve seen lots of Honda’s turning low 13 second 1/4 mile times at the track, and that it a good time; it is no race car time. When modify cars it still comes down to small engine = small power, big = engine bigger horse power. There are a few exceptions, but reliability and cost often becomes an issue.
It is also kinda silly that the ricers seem to take the newest and latest technology, omit cost and reliability from the equation, and compare it to 15 to 35 year old cars.
A small block Chevy can be be modded to run at 500 HP AND 500 ft LB of torque! for less than $1000, and it will do that all day long - ever wonder why ya don’t see those ricer type engines in marine applications?
To draw on another post about Buick Grand Nationals, I know people with GN’s (3,700 lbs, 15/16 years old) that have over 200,000 miles on them, run 11 second 1/4 mile’s and drive them on a daily basis. BTW that car had DIS computer controlled ignition and fuel in the mid 80’s!) - yet another example of the Japs and the rest of the world coping US technology (actually cars and other consumer items really don’t fall in to the hi-tech category).
After all, a race, evn a road race, is primarily just a drag race to the next turn. Side by side and who goes fast.
Ahhh!!, I’m just ranting now, and it is because the ricers pretend to be so damn far superior. Even after getting spanked time and time again. Hey, but you gave 2 more cyl-in-da-s.
I know one day I’ll get mine by some rice, but the only Nissan that has done me in so far had a Chevy V-8 in it.
At WWIII, an event at Maryland International Raceway there is an import vs domestic race, of the many hundred’s of cars, it is obvious which ones are making the power. There was an Rx-7 running high 10’s, and a few other cars (Supras and 300 z’s) in the full mod class running 11’s and 12’s, but not many. Of course the all out winners were V-8’s. Actually the fastest was a V-6 Grand National, but at the 1000 HP level it really can not be considered just a Buick anymore - IMO
Before firing me up, go back and read my first post and the first paragraph of this post. Just the you suck attitude that many ricers have that lead to this type of post.
I am so out of it. I opened this thread wondering how the hell anyone could start a flame war over potato ricers. I love mine. Boil up some red or Yukon gold spuds , crush in some garlic, yum-mee!
The website is dead I think but I used to browse beaterz.com which had galleries of pimped out rice rockets. I try to keep one of my digital cameras with me so I can document every Kia with a bolted on whale wing on the deck lid that I see. It’s a bonus when I see a overly tricked ricer driven by a mullethead
Show me a Buick Grand National that can run 11 second quarters, and I’ll show you a car that had the Grand National radiator cap jacked up and a new drivetrain put under it.
No way a Grand National comes even close to those numbers. 14 seconds I’ll believe. 11 seconds takes insane amounts of horsepower and traction. My 400HP+ Camaro could run mid-12’s. 11 seconds is a whole 'nuther league.
And yeah, a Z-28 might beat a WRX from a standing start. But that’s hardly the point. The WRX is a much more well rounded car. It’s a sedan, it’ll hold four people, it’s AWD and will perform just as well on broken pavement, snow, rain, ice, or just normal road surfaces covered in impurities. And it’s got low emissions, and gets 27 mpg.
Tell you what: You take a Z-28, I’ll take a WRX, and we’ll plot a road course from Reno to Seattle. Any bets who gets there first?
From the OP, I’m not sure what your gripe is, except you’re pissed because they think you have a small dick, and might be gay because of the way your car looks. Get a new car, or get over it.
wow. thank you for reading my Post and paying absolutely no mind to any thing I have written.
I, the dear little glarGH :
Do NOT have a dick.
Do not have a car. I joined up with this forum to:
a)Help My Boyfriend, as I have somehow ended up on the rice support team
b)Pimp my mad Photoshopping skills... or something. believe it or not, i am actually pretty good.
Instead, I found a festering mass of retardation perpetuated by ass-jacks who think that “In the butt!” is an appropriate response. I believe that I was not out of line about being angry when I felt that I was being picked on unfairly. I mean how would you feel if I started the “kevja is teh Gheyest n00b13 name evar” thread here and everyone, including Lynn, made a point to verbally kick you square in genital region?
He has a damn Celica. Celicas are the devil, and his isn’t even a new one. It’s a 5th generation one. And its white. Luckily he’s not getting a bodykit, but oh yes he has whiteface guages, and some freaky intake thing that makes it louder, and a carbon fiber piece that goes around the guages. I tell him every day - be a manly man! Get a truck! He says he’s a country boy at heart, so he should go get a frickin truck already! And he makes fun of MY car, the 94’ Intrepid which IMHO is much cooler. It can comfortably fit 5 people!! Celicas can comfortably fit 1/2 of a person. And at least my car has stock 16" rims. He has hubcaps. And at least I don’t park clear out in the boonies when we go to Walmart because I’m scared someone will recklessly fling open their door and whack my car.
And a bit of helpful info that I learned from him: If you park by someone that has a shitty car they’re more likely to hit you because they don’t care as much about their stuff. Sheesh.
I admittedly don’t know a THING about race cars Sam dear. But if you’ll notice, I wasn’t talking about the Nascar type vehicles. You and other posters may very well be correct in that RACE cars designed and re-built by engineers could be the fastest things on the professional race track DESPITE their teensy tiny little engines. I’m talking, and HAVE been talking this whole thread about just plain old “on the street cars”.
My darling Truli is currently in auto “intensive care” My sister and I rebuilt her engine last year, and as soon as funds allow, she will be back on the road.
Where, mind you, she’s never been beaten.
Oh and I like my cars to be built the way I like my men to be built, BIG and STRONG. Perhaps that’s another reason I find the little “rice rockets” to be a bit giggle producing, they all seem (SEEM mind you, I don’t say they ARE), to have as owners teensy little boys to match their teensy little size. I’ve never seen a big ole muscle bound MAN of a man in one of those little bitsy things.
Nothing makes a girl’s heart beat like the sheer SOUND of a big ole V8 and straight pipes!!! And the LOOK of a BIG powerful…
WAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!! Thats him!! You know my Micah!!
I rolled around laughing after this-- this is exactly what he does… He lives in fear of rogue car doors denting his precious baby… so he parks all the way out in the middle o nowhere by the Walmart employee parking…:rolleyes:
Well, sigh, most of the people in MY town that do own the good ole muscle car type classics are older people. So I’m not sure if there are in fact any cameros or GTOs with the “bouncin’ stereo systems”.
Though now that you mention it, there ARE a few SUVs with such sound systems. And yes, you’re right, it DOES seem to be a “young male thing” (at least where the stereo systems are concerned, sis and I are “old” and WE still street race occasionally,hehe).
But I wasn’t using the “stereo thing” as a “smokescreen”. I just plain don’t like the looks of the teensy little cars. In addition I would NEVER own one, well AGAIN that is.
I did have a little honda a few years ago, solid little car. Emphasis on LITTLE. darn thing scared me to PIECES to drive.
Slightly off topic here but, at least a person has a CHANCE in a wreck in a good old American made. (OLDER models!!, note** I am WELL aware that some of the newer American cars are JUST as teensy and flimsy as rice rockets).
Too many people have to be scraped out of the rice rockets with a spoon in an accident only a few levels above a fender bender.
) Yeah I’ve seen the Skyline, for some reason, like almost every piece of rice, it does not seem to realize its claim on the track. Before anybody says it is the driver, there is nothing about the driver when both cars are in gear at 40 to 60 MPH side-by-side and both hit it. The skyline just falls back - it might go better through the turn, but since the Mustang beats it to the turn well the race is over. The WRX does not even come close to a ten year old Z-28 in this situation. There is more to power than just using AWD to cut a good short time, when the speed comes up, real power takes over.
