X-Men Apocalypse. Seen it.

Just saw it. While not as good as either First Class or Days of Future past, it was a good conclusion to this trilogy. Some notes:

*I thought Fassbender and McAvoy were excellent as usual.

  • Jennifer Lawrance however, puts out a rare bad performance, she was clearly just phoning it in.
  • The younger actors did as about as well as could be reasonably expected.
  • Oscar Isaacs was outstanding and it confirms my view he was badly wasted in *The Force Awakens *

All in all a good, well executed story. You could even accept why the characters don’t look 20 years older, although both Lawrance and Byrne were straining that.

I haven’t seen this yet, but I’m not a huge Jennifer Lawrence fan by any stretch of the imagination. I think she’s extremely overrated as an actress, and I don’t think she’s all that attractive.

That said, I am looking forward to seeing this movie. I like Oscar Isaac, and the rest of the story intrigues me enough to have to venture outside, into the “public” to see it on the big screen.

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Pretty much crap. These movies apparently hate the X-Men. I don’t fault the actors for the most part. They do their best with what they’re given. And yet, once again they make Storm boring and uncool. How can they take one of the best X-Men characters and continually ruin her? Poor Hugh Jackman had to take who knows what PEDs and work out like a maniac to get in shape for what? Didn’t even need to be there.

Please turn X-Men over to the MCU studios.

Quicksilver pretty much stole the show, which isn’t saying much. But I did like him.

These movies leave a zillion things unsaid that the comics would have said. MCU movies don’t leave me feeling like that.

I thought Jennifer Lawrence was fine. She was pretty much just channeling Katniss Everdeen, but that’s what the role called for. Much like in the previous movie when she was channeling Rebecca Romijn’s performance as that’s what that role called for. The person I thought who phoning it in was Michael Fassbender, especially in the second half of the movie.

I agree that Quicksilver upstaged everyone, including some actual fisticuffs with the Big Bad. The upcoming Flash movie has their work cut out for them as this franchise has set the standard for how speedsters should be portrayed.

I liked it, but then I’ve liked all the X-men movies and Wolverine movies I’ve seen.

I did notice how they were a bit coy about showing DC after the destruction caused by Magneto in the previous movie. I guess they don’t have an idea on how to reconstruct that?

I didn’t mind the youthful appearance for example of Mystique. I took it along with “she can look however she wants”. So she can look as youthful as ever. After all, in the previous trilogy, Mystique was a bit older, but she certainly didn’t look like the older Magneto or Xavier, even though they were the same age.

I couldn’t recognize Oscar Isaac, I was trying to look for him and hadn’t read the news that he was the villain. I liked the villain, and instantly could tell he wanted to transfer into Xavier.

The show on how the horsemen changed sides was a bit weak, especially for Magneto. BTW, I do find it pretty horrible for the workers that, knowing he saved one of them, would still tattle on him. I mean, even if he is Magneto, you know how bad he is, why even provoke him? And he saved someone, so just let it go.

Also, I see the still train with the idea that Sentinels will come after them. And Sentinels would’ve been pure pawns for Apocalypse, so I’m glad they got destroyed.

Absolute garbage. Arguably the worst of the X-Men films (…even alluded to this in the film itself, with the “the third instalment [of a trilogy] is always the worst” quip!).

Some of the laziest script-writing I’ve encountered in a comic book shlock – ‘Miss C.I.A.’ just happened to enter that tomb at the exact time Apocalypse was resurrecting?.. really?! Level-5 X-Woman, Storm / Ororo is now some tomboy, street urchin thief who channels Will Smith’s Vaudeville Concussion performance and loiters Egyptian marketplaces pilfering bric-à-brac?! :smack: Are we, the audience, meant to be this undiscerning and plain dumb to appreciate popcorn films nowadays…?? :dubious:

However, the film’s worst sin was its action sequences – a sacrilegious screw-up for films that are little more than their boom, crash, operas. That final fight comprising of everyone throwing everything and the kitchen sink at the antagonist, only for the ‘conflagrant clitoris’ (c’mon… surely it wasn’t that subliminal :rolleyes: ) to break the nihilist god’s defences… Hilarious in its SJW pandering.

4/10 – HD cam torrent worthy; alcohol required.

PS: That Wolverine scene, with him scurrying off into the snow after just encountering the ‘X-Kids’, was delicious in its meme-worthiness! It just must have been an in-joke by the writers / director, cognisant of how poor the franchise had become and how little Jackman wanted to have to do with it any longer…(!)

While I agree with several of your points, hasn’t Jean Grey been the most powerful of all the X-Men for, like, decades? I don’t read comics, but even I know that her key defining characteristic is “has more power than anyone but can’t control it”.

I took it as the origin of Ororo/Storm, so it makes sense that at that time she was a street urchin and didn’t know how to channel her powers.

Hugh Jackman has already signed up for Wolverine 3, and the post-credit stinger was probably the setup for that movie.

That’s her straight-up, Chris Claremont-penned, comic book origin story.

I agree with you, but to be fair, Ororo was sort of retconned into a young orphan pick pocketing street urchin in Cairo, but she was a cute YOUNG orphan and not a mohawk punk teenager and she didn’t need anyone to activate her powers or make her hair white. When we first met Ororo she was a self-appointed goddess who helped the locals by bringing rain to drought-stricken areas. She had a certain dignified regalness to her they’ve since crapped all over.

Spoil me. Is that Hugh Jackman’s only appearance in the movie?

Not in some of the stories mentioned by Miller. Also, she has powers, she just doesn’t know how to use them or channel them in anything that is not helping her be a petty thief.

Hugh Jackman didn’t appear in the stinger, which involved some men-in-black retrieving some of Wolverine’s blood. He appeared much earlier in the middle of the film.

Retcon. I own Giant sized X-Men #1 (or did, not sure where it’s currently stored) and X-Men #94. She certainly did know how to control her powers and the only thing Xavier did for her is telepathically teach her English and convince her to join the X-Men. It was later retconned that Xavier had met her when she was a young orphan pick pocketing in Cairo but her mutant powers hadn’t developed yet.

Yeah… But the way in which the scene was filmed; how the sequence played out (exacerbated by the poor casting choice of the sub par actress portraying said character) and the ham-fisted suggestive nature of the “girl power” thematics - all conducted in the current social-political climate - rendered any universe logic null, void and a distant second to the seeming agenda/s at play.

I haven’t the time to research the character’s histories right now, but isn’t Ororo the progeny of some South American goddess-type figure and an African-American male…? :confused:

Money talks. However, the reference I alluded to was in respect to the X-Men films, per se, not his own spin-offs – spin-offs that will invariable star himself and chronologically consistent characters with comparable maturity (…one would assume).

If so, it’s still ficking horrible… and a story strand that should have had plentiful liberties taken with it; especially in light of how under-developed the character Storm has been in the X-Men filmic universe (…“muh racialisticisationings”? :dubious: )

Herein lies my key point: The character is continually diluted, this time reduced to a common thief. One of the strongest mutants - and the one with potentially the most entertaining abilities, it should be said - in the comic’s lore, forever relegated to a background (joke?) character. It’s just… not cricket. :mad:

Rogue? Banshee? Longshot? Emma Frost?

She was born in Harlem to an African-American father, and a Kenyan princess. Her dad got a job in Cairo and moved the family there, but shortly after their arrival, and earthquake collapse their home, killing Ororo’s parents and trapping her for days In the rubble, which gave her her severe claustrophobia. After that, she grew up on the streets of Cairo, surviving as a pickpocket until her powers started manifesting, at which point she ran away into the wilderness. She was adopted by a tribe out there, who saw her mutant abilities as a divine power, and worshipped her as a goddess, until Xavier found her and brought her in to the Xmen.

I haven’t seen the movie, so I don’t know if this is a good portrays or not, but most of what you described is straight out of the comics.

The movie shows Storm as a street urchin in Cairo, using her powers to distract merchants while she made off with their till. What her origins were before this was not shown. And, of course, that whole running away to the wilderness bit is probably not going to happen.

Apocalypse does consider her a goddess and augment her powers. But that is part of the conflict of the movie, about mutants being treated like gods.