I liked it but I didn’t love it. I think I am burnt out on everything being miserable (and yeah I knew going in that this would be that kind of story) but sometimes it felt like the plot was just “What’s the worst possible thing that could happen here? That’s what will happen.” At the very least, I would have liked a little coda at the end that confirmed the kids were safe, even if it wasn’t permanent.
I did like that it was unlike modern superhero movies. If anything it reminded me of the 70s Incredible Hulk show. It even felt episodic as the story went on.
I kind of liked that there was no scene at the end. Brought home that this was the last one with this cast. In a way the tag was in the beginning with the Deadpool scene (although that scene was not in the same universe as the movie).
One last bit of weirdness: for some reason the print of the movie I saw had closed captioning. Subtitles plus it sound effects etc. Anyone else’s like that?
Saw it with my daughter last night. The plot seemed pretty formulaic, but it was heartbreaking in a bunch of different ways. The health problems the two X-Men were having … when Logan said “At least there’s water …” and choked up … when the little girl said “Daddy” at the end. I think both of us cried at least twice.
It had something of a DC/Warner Bros feel, which I’m not used to for movies from the MCU or the X-Men universe. And it was so weird (and oddly hilarious for such a grim movie) hearing Wolverine and Professor Xavier using so many expletives.
The Deadpool part at the beginning was confusing, at first, but definitely funny.
I saw it last night and thought it was excellent as well.
My four favorite parts:
[spoiler]1) The utter banality of the way that mutantkind was eliminated - no Sentinels, no concentration camps and forced treatment; just GMO corn syrup preventing ‘wild’ mutant births.
‘Bad things happen to people I care about’
‘I’ll be fine then’ - I gasped at that line.
3)Wolverine’s adamantium skeleton poisoning him over the long term. There was a flash of documents relating to X-23’s adamantium implants, but I didn’t really catch it. Is she going to have the same problem?
I liked that the kids didn’t really fight back effectively, like little X-men. After all, they were just kids overwhelmed by fear and the novelty of being out of the facility. [/spoiler]
No, only her hand and feet claws are coated, so her feeling factor should be enough to counteract it… as opposed to Logan’s entire skeleton being coated. Unless they changed her for the movie. (i haven’t seen it yet)
I saw it earlier today and liked it quite as bit. I agree that it had quite a bit of emotional impact, even being quite a bit sad.
I saw Hugh Jackman and Patrick Stewart on a couple of the late-night shows promoting this movie, and I remember Stephen Colbert mentioning that it was very topical and he’s right; there’s a wall on the Mexican border and the goal is asylum in Canada. Plus there’s the bit with the genetically modified corn syrup.
And along with perhaps the audience, I sat through the credits expecting to see a post-credits scene. (And I don’t remember seeing a cameo by Stan Lee. Did I miss it or was there not one in this?)
Agreed with the liked it but didn’t love it take. I do think this is generally the better way for comic book movies to go though, telling smaller, character driven stories rather than the more standard end of the world team up movies.
My jaw nearly hit the floor during the farmhouse attack though. For about a minute there I didn’t realize that it was a Wolverine clone attacking the house and instead thought they had brought back Liev Schreiber as Sabertooth. I’m not sure if that would have been awesome or awful.
The skeleton is not the reason Wolverine heals, healing is his mutant power. The adamantium skeleton was added because the healing allowed it, everyone else they tried it on died horribly.
Saw it with my daughter [del]last night[/del] Thursday night. The plot seemed pretty formulaic, but it was heartbreaking in a bunch of different ways. The health problems the two X-Men were having … when Logan said “At least there’s water” and choked up … when the little girl said “Daddy” at the end. I think both of us cried at least twice.
It had something of a DC/Warner Bros feel, which I’m not used to for movies from the MCU or the X-Men universe. And it was so weird (and oddly hilarious for such a grim movie) hearing Wolverine and Professor Xavier using so many expletives.
The Deadpool part at the beginning was confusing, at first, but definitely funny.
I don’t think Stan Lee does cameos in the Fox movies anymore. A couple of other thoughts I missed in my first post:
I would have liked someone to have some remorse for that poor, good family they destroyed. I get Wolverine isn’t that kind of character but it just seemed really cold.
In the theater when the father fell over dead, some doofus in the audience with me started laughing. Like Cape Fear loud laughing. It was unsettling.
Did anyone else have a print like mine that had closed captioning on the screen all through out? I had never seen that in a movie before.
ETA: I also thought the attacker was Sabertooth at first which goes to show how much those actors look alike I think
No, there was no closed captioning on the print I watched today. (Although there’s really no print, as movies are almost always shown digitally.) Perhaps your theater turned on that feature accidentally? Did you mention it to the manager either during or after the show?
Props to Dafne Keen, who held her own against Patrick Stewart and Hugh Jackman in both the action and the feels. I wouldn’t be surprised if she comes back in a solo movie.
Looking into it I think it’s a service the theater does for the hearing impaired at certain showings.
Digesting the movie for a few days I find I am liking it more. I think my initial feeling of slight discomfort may have come from it dredging up memories I had of dealing with my Dad’s dementia. I’m not even sure that was a conscious thing on my part but apparently the movie effected me which is another plus in its book. I still do wish the ending was a little more solid was far as the fate of the kids. Even just a flash forward showing them in a safe place would have done it.
Well, the Professor died. Did he even survive being carried to the truck? I don’t remember.
Laura, understandably, has empathy problems.
Logan, I absolutely believe suffered terrible remorse. Endangering their safety is the entire reason he didn’t want to accept their hospitality. He stood there with full acceptance when the father raised the shotgun and pointed it at him- and with the wounds he just sustained from his battle with Twolverine, and his declining healing ability, it’s no simple answer to say he knew he’d heal. He seemed to hope that the shot would kill him and seemed to feel like it would have been justice for the family if it did.
Like you said in the OP, in this movie the worst possible thing that could happen at each point is what would end up happening. If the kids didn’t end up safe, we definitely would have seen them getting killed or captured or whatever. Walking away at the end means they were safe.
Here’s my minor annoyance that I just could not shake (overall, I thought the movie was excellent):
The kids were raised by the personnel of an American company and that company’s hired Mexican nursing staff. The natural result is that they’d be bilingual. Laura spoke Spanish except for squeezing out a few words of English that she seemed uncomfortable with, and all of the other kids spoke only English. Sure, the other kids could have been bilingual and we just happened to not hear them using Spanish but they were all essentially raised as siblings so it would have made sense that they’d share speech preferences and patterns. They all had an emotional connection with the nurses but feared the Transigen staff, so I’d expect them to prefer Spanish- This is why I assumed Laura favored Spanish and meeting the other kids who all spoke English really ruined for me what I appreciated as a trait rooted deep in the character’s emotional history.
Saw it last night and really liked it. I haven’t seen any of the other parts of the X-men franchise, and it worked well as a stand-alone movie.
I liked how Laura mixed up the bit from Shane at the burial - saying Shane’s good-bye speech instead of the Lord’s Prayer. It also implies she has an incredibly prodigious capacity to learn - being able to playback the speech word-for-word on one hearing when she has only started to speak English.
I’m assuming this is obvious to those how know the franchise, but what did the “At least there’s water” refer to?
