Thats not related to the franchise - Logan had been working to try and buy a yacht to take Xavier out on the ocean.
I’m having a hard time deciding what I think of this movie - on one hand - its a great end to their archs, and it was sad to see Xavier’s decline.
On the other hand its a an end to their archs, and it was sad to see Xavier’s decline.
I thought both all of the primary actors really dialed it up a notch - except the bad people (they were all the same one note chars).
Loved the movie.
One thing I really liked is how Logan took out Richard E. Grant’s loathsome scientist - one bullet to the brain, no fuss, end of story. Like the bad guys, we were all so focused on his claws that we forgot that Logan had been a soldier once, and knew his way around firearms.
I loved it until Eden, which felt tacked-on and like completely different film. I don’t remember ever turning on a movie as quickly as I did with this one.
I didn’t feel that Eden was tacked on because getting there was the whole point of the story.
It did remind me a bit of Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome where the scruffy hero gets a shave from a bunch of kids that he’s saving. I was kind of surprised that Logan died at the end instead of getting a “ride off into the sunset” moment since the movie was leaning on the Shane allegory quite a bit but the ending was very powerful. Jackman played a wounded Wolverine, old, poisoned, beaten down but ultimately still going to be a hero very well. Props to the filmmakers for adding an evil clone into the mix and not making it cheesy; that made quite a surprise with the scene with Xavier and I was actually more broken up by that than with Logan at the end.
I loved it and hated it.
The plot may have been formulaic, and you didn’t have to be Xavier to see how it was going to end, but it was well-written and definitely hit you in the feels a few times - especially the whole “Bad things happen to people I care about,” dialogue and at the end with the “This is what it feels like.” The acting was great, at least for the main characters, but that was to be expected with Jackman and Stewart. It was a great way to go out.
On the other side, they spent far too much time and energy trying to mimic the success of Deadpool, with language and over the top violence. It just felt forced through the entire movie.
From my memory of the comics, this level of violence and swearing was much closer to the comic-book Wolverine than any of the other movies.
The language is about what you’d expect from a notably uncouth old warrior and a semi-senile old man, and the violence is about what you’d expect from combat featuring superstrong characters using supersharp blades. It’s the *other *films that were sanitized - this was the first that felt realistic.
I agree. The tone was nowhere near the Deadpool movie either. Deadpool was way over the top comedy, this felt like a more realistic take on the whole superhero genre.
I agree that the violence was not over the top. When I saw it I had flashbacks to X2 when wolverine stabbed a soldier in the chest when they invaded the school but the soldier was “only wounded.”
This is how wolverine should have always been.
If you’re going to to Dark and gritty, this is how it should be done. An actual sad story, not brooding people standing on rooftops and speaking cliches to the rain.
I agree with the OP that the bleakness was a hair over the top. I pretty much knew that family was doomed. I wish Logan had willed the professor not to take them up on the offer.
I’d say it wasn’t so much a superhero movie as a violent drama that happened to feature superheroes. I’m not sure if that makes sense.
I didn’t think the violence was over the top. In fact it’s the first true movie representation of what Wolverine’s fighting style would be. His fighting style is stabbing people with multiple knives, something the other movies glossed over.
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Saw it last night and I enjoyed it.
Call me bloodthirsty, but I agree on the violence being how Wolverine should be depicted.
I liked that they picked up the adamantium poisoning story line, and might be an oxymoron but I enjoyed the ‘bleakness’ of the story. It felt appropriate for the tale of the last two ‘old-school’ superheroes.
My only complaints with the movie are mainly just minor nitpicks.
I’ve got one question I wouldn’t mind thoughts on. My take was that the gene therapy in the food simply stopped the birth of new mutants, and the Reavers hunted down all the pre-existing mutants. My wife wasn’t sure on that point? From the info in the movie, was that how you saw it?
Yes, plus Xavier killing off a bunch of mutants at the mansion. I imagine there’s a bunch of mutants still in hiding, but with no Xavier/Magneto(dead of old age?)/X-Men to band them together.
Yeah, with no mutants being born the bad guys seem to have mostly adopted a “live and let die” policy towards the remaining mutants as long as they don’t try to do super hero shit. They had very little trouble finding Wolverine and knew everything about Charles.
Yeah most X-Men villains that hate mutants hate them because they fear they would replace humanity. No new Mutants erases that fear. Essentially those bad guys felt like they won.
Well, when they (the Reavers) captured Caliban, Pierce noted that Caliban had worked with the Reavers in the past tracking mutants. So I think it’s safe to assume that at least some of the pre-existing mutants were caught by the Reavers and supplied the genetic material for the children.
Saw the film with my brood, who cried at the Munson’s fate and the finale (even though they knew what was coming), which at least for me indicates it was a good piece of film-making, as they are a hardened bunch. In fact, one of them noted that they finally managed to make a ‘good’ X-Men movie, which is high praise indeed.
When did Xavier kill a bunch of mutants? I missed that.
They didn’t explicitly say it but after the hotel incident the news referred to a similar incident that happened in Westchester that left seven people dead and like 500 injured, Westchester being where the X-mansion was located. Then there is Charles confession to the fake Wolverine right before getting shanked about having remembering the horrible thing that he did and not deserving the nice night they had.
Saw it yesterday. Enjoyed it. Maybe 10-15 minutes too much “road trip with Old Man Logan,” but pretty good.
It worked because it was just this one story; there was no need to work in a bunch of stuff about other heroes and set up other movies and franchises and elaborate storylines because those others are all gone. It’s the endless “parade of characters” in these movies that ruins them, for me; it seems like they try to pack in as many characters as they can fit on screen just because they can, and it makes them feel… cheap.
I thought the movie was great. It’s the best X-Men movie by far in my opinion. Sure, Days of Future Past and Apocalypse were fun, big, over the top movies, but Logan was much better in terms of story and character development. It was very sad when Charles was killed. And again at the end when Logan actually died.
But what I don’t get is why did the adamantium bullet kill Evil Wolverine? This movie used the same bad logic as X-Men Origins that an adamantium bullet will pierce an adamantium skull, which is ok, but in Origins when Logan was shot in the head, it only screwed his brain up and gave him amnesia. Now I get that Origins is mostly removed from canon, but it was the only time we saw adamantium bullets, so maybe it is sore of in canon.
Although it is more realistic that a head shot would kill them. But for that matter, when Evil Wolverine was shot in the face with a shotgun after being pinned by the truck, you think some shot would have entered through his eye socket and ripped his brain up as well.
And at the end when Logan was impaled by the tree stump and Laura cut him down, why the Hell didn’t she then remove the wooden spike from his body? Yes, I know it would have hurt like Hell, but the guys ability is to heal. If they removed the spike, there was at least a chance he might have survived. Also there could have been more of that serum that aided in healing in one of the bad guys vehicles.
But I really love this movie. And I wonder if they will have Dafne Keen reprise her role of Laura in future movies.
I think at this point his healing ability was done-ski. Removing the stump would’ve just killed him as well.