Logan: Seen It

Maybe. But if the patient is going to die in seconds if you do nothing, then an action that just might save them seems worth it.

And an additional nitpick. When Evil Wolverine was pinned by the truck at the farmhouse, even before the shotgun blasts to the head, it seemed as though he couldn’t do anything to free himself. But then the end that armored truck was dropped on him, and he climbed out from under it in a minute, with no noticeable damage.

The story demanded that both die – tweaking the writing might have made it a bit more consistent, but perhaps not with the same sort of narrative heft.

Went to see it again. Patrick Stewart is really good in the part. I don’t think I appreciated hos eprformance enough the first time.

Something else I completely missed the first time: all the trucks they show on the road are driverless without even a cab. That’s a nice subtle way to show the future.

Logan actually curses at them, something to the effect of “God damn AutoTrucks!”
And Charles says to him, “You know you’re yelling at a machine.”

Are you sure you weren’t out for a bathroom break during that scene the first time you saw it?

Oooh! If we have to see the character as an adult, they could cast Lara Logan!

My only excuse is to blame the dang subtitles that constantly stole my eye focus the first time I saw it and also that I’m an idiot :slight_smile:

My interpretation is that the bullet, being made of adamantium, could deform his adamantium skull (which it would have to do, to penetrate). It actually blew away a good portion of his head.

And you’re right, he would be able to heal that, normally- except now he’s got chunks of adamantium where his brain should grow back. If it had been normal bone, he could’ve healed, but his regeneration couldn’t displace the damn-near indestructible metal.

That’s my fanwank, and I’m stickin’ to it.

I think it’s just that the Logans couldn’t heal from actual death, only from (very) near-death, and the only thing that causes instant death would be a bullet to the brain - and since they had adamantium skulls, only an adamantium bullet could do that.

I liked it but didn’t love it. I’m glad to finally see a full-blown “serious” take on a comic book movie, but this one felt a bit too grim… which would be fine, except it didn’t really get sad enough to emotionally effect me either, with one exception (Laura moving the cross into an X at the end). I think it just had to do with the way the movie was shot/edited… scenes like Professor X’s death just felt a bit rushed the way they were constructed. Needed some more slow moments, stronger score, scenes for people to stare off into a pretty sunset… I dunno, something. As it is, it didn’t really make me want to re-watch it (nothing fun enough, nothing sad enough).

Did anybody catch whether the girl had adamantium on her entire skeleton like Logan, or just her claws? Because she’s going to like, grow and stuff, right? Seems to me that might be a rather major impediment to her ever growing. Even if it’s just her claws, aren’t those also bone and would grow as well?

She’s definitely an impressive actress, handing a difficult role and holding her own opposite Hugh Jackman and Patrick Stewart.

To me it felt more true to the character - the cartoons and movie treatments of Wolverine have been sanitized to a significant degree due to the need for specific ratings. The comic books were constrained by industry codes, although as time went buy they addressed the hyperviolence of the character more and more, and the frankly bad things he was capable of doing and actually did.

^ This.

^ And this.

So how does this fit into the X-movie continuity? After Days of Future Past, everything seemed kind of hunky-dory, and now, six years later (I think—the dates I found were 2023 for Days and 2029 for Logan), mutants are basically done for, with no new ones being born for 25 years (I think it was). But I’m sure I remember mutants younger than 19 at the end of Days

All in all, I’m gonna have to be the dissenting voice. For me, it was just too all-grim-all-the-time to be enjoyable; too much of the storytelling seemed merely an excuse to torture the characters ever more, whether emotionally or physically, which just had a dulling effect on me, severing all the connection I otherwise might have felt with them and their respective fates. But it seems that’s just me.

Just the claws (hand and foot). It was either mentioned above, or I read it somewhere.

I agree that the R-rated aspect of it was one of the movie’s good points.

Good question about getting Xavier back into the U.S. I didn’t even think about that aspect. What I did think about was Logan’s stupidity (unfortunately, not the only time in the film): the bad guys are massively hunting you, and you roll your bullet-ridden limo up to Harrah’s in Las Vegas, ask the valet to “keep it out front”, and then actually stay in that hotel?!? (It did at least lead to the totally badass sequence of Wolvie and the girl fighting their way through the psionic blast.)

I had the same dubiousness about the bullet, but I’m willing to buy the explanations put forth here.

You’re certainly tolerant. I would not have stuck around and watched the whole movie without complaint if that weirdness had been going in in my theatre.

Speaking of weirdness at my theatre, though, I was struck by how they have eight screens, top notch sound, at least one outfitted for 3-D…and yet in the lobby they have what looks like a 13 inch (or maybe 20 inch, and I’m just thrown by the scale and the changing times) 20th century type tube TV with a big ol’ backside, sitting on a counter playing some sort of movie promo “channel”. WTF?

Yeah, that was one of the things about the movie I really had a problem with. It was so blindingly obvious that it was a bad idea to endanger them by taking them up on their offer of dinner (and especially of staying over). Logan should have just flatly overruled Charles there. What was he thinking? And why would they portray this in the movie? So strange.

On the flip side, though, that family was wack, or at least the parents. From their perspective, they don’t know about the goons and think this is just a nice family that stopped to help them…so they are going to repay the kindness by bringing Logan along on a run to the water pumping station with a gun and some bolt cutters, followed by some heavy manual labor and a confrontation with armed rednecks? LOL, any normal person would be like “ehhh…ok, looks like you’ve got a complicated situation going on here–good luck with that, but we’ll be heading for the hotel now”, as soon as the bolt cutters came out, and long before the confrontation.

Other thoughts:

I liked some of the “road trip” aspects, but I guess part of my problem is how many movies I’ve seen. The trope of “grizzled old grouch gets saddled with a kid he doesn’t even want to help, then reluctantly takes on, and slowly his heart melts over the course of the movie” has really been done so many times. And when it comes to the villains, the “evil corporation creates hybrid human monsters it can’t really control to weaponize” trope is also one I’m getting tired of, and it doesn’t really make sense: if they are more powerful than regular soldiers, as we saw in some cases here, then it’s too dangerous; if they are not, then why bother? Unless they are all installed with kill switches, which didn’t seem to be the case.

And that baddie with the Southern drawl sure had some plot armor. Logan and Laura were killing redshirt goons left and right in Mexico, but they left him alive? Really?

But I enjoyed the action sequences, and a lot of the stuff with Xavier especially (the idea of giving him a degenerative mental condition was the most original and fascinating idea of the movie).

Why would the murderous evil corporation stop in the middle of the woods to respect the Canadian border?

Too long.

My rankings/grades for all the films I’ve seen featuring Jackman playing this character:

X2 A
X-Men: Days of Future Past A-
X-Men B
Logan B-
X-Men: The Last Stand B-
X-Men: Apocalypse C-
X-Men Origins: Wolverine D-

With as many complaints as I had, you’d actually think I’d grade this one lower…but there were harder-to-quantify aspects of it I liked overall.

Yeah, the Canadian border thing really stuck out for me, too. Liked, didn’t love it, boy was it dark for a superhero movie.
My question; in the Deadpool trailer there’s a Firefly poster, what’s the tie-in there?

My

Morena Baccarin was in Firefly. There’s been rumors of Nathan Fillion playing Cable but I don’t know if there’s anything to it.

facepalm I knew that.

Late to the party, but it still is in the first run theaters.

Comments:

When you have a chance to put a bullet in the head of a major baddie, DO IT!

Why can’t Hollywood check out what an area actually looks like? The North Dakota/Canadian border looks like a tabletop, not like the Badlands.

Also, why can’t they use real geographic coordinates? Those were close to the border, but weren’t that useful.

What did Pierce think he would get out of torturing the convenience store clerk (and presumably murdering him and everyone else in the store)? This is “villain kicks puppy” plotting. There’s nothing he could add that wasn’t in the official police report. “A man and a girl stole some stuff and left.”

Given that, I still liked the movie a lot.

You fulfilled your moniker nicely there!