Bippy, are you a hunter of any sort? I’m not, but have friends who are. I’m frankly not that interested in bow hunting or hunting generally, but your blanket condemnation of bow hunters seems hasty to me. My (admittedly superficial) understanding of bow hunting, is that hunters hunt with bows because a) it’s safer than hunting with guns (esp. when other hunting parties are around) and b) it’s more challenging and requires quite a lot of skill than hunting with guns. I’d guess quite a lot more b than a, but that’s my guess.
At the end of the hunt, an animal is killed, hopefully humanely. With a gun, you might kill cleanly. Or you might not, and the animal is wounded, and the hunter must chase it and finish it off. Same deal with a bow, although admittedly the chance of a clean kill seems less likely.
Question: Is the lessened likelyhood of a “one-shot” kill really enough reason to champion outlawing bow hunting, given that both a gun and a bow may wound but not kill an animal?
My take would be that it’s unfortunate, and to be avoided, but obviously can and will happen when hunting with a bow. Calling the suffering “Evil”, to me, means you shouldn’t bow hunt, ever, because the risk of committing Evil is too great. That implied stance seems a bit extreme to me.
I too don’t think bow hunting is evil. But if you’re not damn good with a bow, you sure as hell shouldn’t be shooting at animals – and if you make a bad shot, you should do your damndest to kill the animal as quickly as possible after that. I am not a hunter, but I am guessing it would be possible to follow an animal who is bleeding heavily from a misplaced arrow (or bullet) and catch up with them and shoot again before they bleed to death, at least under some circumstances. Please correct me if I’m wrong.
Drowning a cat is another story. So would be drowning just about anything. Hell, I have a FISH that could conceiveably drown (he’s a betta, they have a special organ that lets them get oxygen from air and their gills aren’t as efficient as other fish) and I’d do my damndest to keep that from happening.
Putting an animal down is sometimes necessary. What isn’t necessary is to do it by drowning, or any slow and painful method. Heck, I had to euthanize a previous betta, and did it as humanely as I could.
Um, Guin-babe, I take it you’ve never been bow hunting. (I understand. I mean, how can you go bow hunting when you’re glued in front of a computer monitor 23 hours out of the day?)
I couldn’t care less.
Because it’s across town, and (I believe) they make you fill out paper work, yada yada yada. Besides, if I take it to the pound there’s a chance it will end up in my backyard again.
Yea. To remove them from my backyard.
I see. I am now a “scary SOB.” And all the farmers in Saskatchewan are also scary SOBs? (See featherlou’s comments in the second page for more info.)
I never said that it shouldn’t ever be engaged in. I think that unless you’re very good with a bow, however, you shouldn’t hunt with one as it would most likely needlessly cause pain and suffering to an animal.
Crafter_man: this is your big chance to pontificate on how bow-hunting or whatever is OK with God and Jesus. Or something. At the least, I’m sure you know more more about hunting with a bow than myself or probably everyone in the thread. Please contribute and tell me why bow hunters hunt. Honest question!
Hey, you lazy sick fuck, here’s an idea. Once an animal is caged and can’t get out, you drive it to the shelter. It’s removed from your backyard, and doesn’t die a slow painful death. What a concept!
You must understand. Guin-babe cares more about pets than humans. It must be part of the mindset of being a pet owner; the value of a cat’s life trumps the value of a human’s life…
Lazy sick fuck with poor reading skills? I didn’t say ‘pet’ I said ‘animal’, as in, even if you trap a wild cat and kill it in an inhumane manner, you’re still a sick fuck.
Or maybe it got out by accident and some child is crying that their pet is gone, and some sick fuck like you was too damn lazy to drive it to the shelter instead of killing it in a cruel and inhumane manner?
Ya know… this brings the phrase “squeel like a pig, boy”, to mind. You ever go camping?
Sorry, babe, that’s NOT how it works. If you start a Pit Thread, you can’t dictate who can reply or what they can say because they don’t agree with you.