:smack: Why do I even bother bolding stuff for you? You still walk right past it.
I have to agree with elucidator on this one. But let me just focus on your debate persona for a moment.
You are very passionate about your political views, even when they’re not supported by the evidence. The problem is, when confronted with facts or arguments that refute your position, you tend to turn up the emotional volume in response.
I think elucidator spoke for me there as well.
And you have to remember that it’s the original ‘specific issue up for debate’ back in the original thread that determines whether the things said in that thread that caused you to start this one, had any legitimacy. Looking at it, xeno seems to be on solid ground, and you’re making arguments that stand on air. And then calling a poster a liar and a jerk when he calls you on it.
And maybe I’m not clear on the rules, but aren’t we supposed to avoid calling people names in GD?
Just for the record, my spider plant is named Xenophon. I was wondering why you pitted my plant before I read the OP. Come to think of it, it’s been looking awfully smug lately–it must be using my computer to annoy Scylla while I’m at work…
I see it RTF. I saw it the first time I read the article. That is not saying directly that the anonymous sources are stating that the yellow cake from Niger was discussed. It comes close to saying it, and it implies it strongly, but it doesn’t say it.
Find me the line in the article where Hersh says anonymous sources told him that the yellow cake from Niger was discussed in the meeting. I don’t see that line. You have not shown it to me.
Of course this is a lie. I’ll warranty it against any some of money you care to defend it with.
The statement in question is as follows:
That is a bold statement. How much money would you like to defend it with?
You will need to place the money into escrow, than I will do the same. After that I will show an example of a thread where I was not the first person to say “liar,” and collect the full sum. My minimum is $500.
Anybody ever tell you that you remind them of Yosimete Sam?
Howzabout this? Threads over past year, everytime I’m the first to use the word “liar” in reference to another poster I give you $10, every time its you, you give me $5?
There’s this bottle of single malt I’ve got my eye on…
Besides, as you should know, the number of times someone makes the accusation is completely immaterial. It’s whether or not it’s justified that matters.
Which brings us back to Xenophon. While general talk about me is very interesting and always to be encouraged the question at hand isn’t what good advice can I give Scylla, or how often does Scylla say a particular word.
The question at hand is whether Xeno was justified in calling me dishonest in his opening post of the aforementioned thread.
I maintain that he was being a shithead.
Forgetting about me for a moment. How do you feel? Do you think it was proper and justified, as an opening overture?
Heavens, I completely forgot about poor Xenophon! Here he is, brutally pitted by Scylla, only to have that echoed and underlined by Scylla. Then he is remorselessly piled on by Scylla, Scylla, and Scylla. He is fortunate not to be further pilloried and abused by angry crowds of Scylla, carrying torches and pitchforks, and subjected to mob violence.
I shall make amends at once to poor Xeno, so pitilessly thrashed by Scylla and all his friends.
[Reverend Lovejoy] I am here to comfort you. There, there. There, there.[/RL]
It may have occurred to you Scylla that you were goaded into taking a tricky position by elucidator. Which was exactly what you said you wouldn’t do.
Well it’s impolite. And I suppose you might not have read the article as well as you suppose. Xeno perhaps might have rhetorically allowed for your being confused. But you do misrepresent the article:
It’s just not so. I dunno why you posted it, and I don’t why you’re pawing the ground about it, but it’s not so.