xtisme, come on down, you muppet!

Damn, ivan, you’ve been more ill-used than a prison punk at shower time in two simultaneous Pit threads. You must simply enjoy being the center of any kind of attention.

You seem a little obsessive about the thought of “punks getting it up the ass in prison showers”.

Is there something you wish to tell us? A fantasy you’d like to share?

To be fair, the price (well, the benefit) is usually a leg up in some bureaucratic struggle or another. Or revenge on someone who had slighted them.

If anyone cares about my opinion at this stage (unlikely, but it was brought up), what I said on the topic ivan brought up was;
“I thought UFOs and whatnot might be brought up, which is why I worded the OP as ‘conclusive’ - whatever your opinions, it’s clear that evidence is far from conclusive about extraterrestrial intelligence…”

I would though consider it perfectly valid to answer the OP ‘the governments would cover it up, because…’ and then some reliable cites, GD being GD.

We might have got to that if xtisme hadn’t declared to school me, and instead was a little more civil.

Adding “homophobe who uses homosexuality as an insult” to your list of bigotries and idiocies.

In fairness, you did state that “Read the 2 of 3 volumes of UFO’s and the National Security State by Richard M.Dolan that have been released, and then tell me that we haven’t already got incontrovertible proof that non-human intelligent objects are occupying our airspace.”

(Bolding mine). This would be very relevant to the OP, as the whole point I was exploring what the world’s reaction to actual, undeniable evidence that extraterrestrial intelligence exists, or existed.

However, then the course of discussion took the path that led to a 9-page Pit thread. Der Trihs then called the idea of a government conspiracy in the matter ‘ridiculous’, to which you responded by saying that only people who have read Mr. Dolan’s book are qualified to debate the matter - not really in the spirit of the OP, or GD discourse (as pointed out above. To stretch the earlier analogy, in a thread about a reaction to Bigfoot, I could assert that he does exist and the government is covering it up, then when asked to elaborate state that unless you’ve read this book - I haven’t, it’s just an example - then you’re talking nonsense. I wouldn’t expect to be taken seriously.)

When pushed in this thread, and I know you didn’t want a debate here, you say that ‘of course’ you have no empirical evidence, and from what I’ve seen you hold your position regarding UFOs being explained by aliens, and a government conspiracy, due to a mix of assertions (‘the argumentum ad numerum, as you so cutely name it, consists mostly of military and professional pilot sightings and experiences’), anecdotal evidence (seemingly the bulk of Dolan’s work, from what I’ve read and what you’ve quoted) and arguments from ignorance (we can’t explain phenomenon x, therefore it must be aliens, or we don’t know what the government’s top secret projects are, therefore they must be covering up aliens).

To be honest, 9 pages later I’m still not sure why you hold the position you do. The standards of evidence required for believing this stuff appear to me so low as to be functionally worthless in determining what is and is not real.

Yeah, just one. I have this fantasy of you being back in the joint with no internet access.

What was the shitstain in the joint for?

He’s got some sticky fingers.

Thanks – I’m curious to see how he explains that.

Oh, he’s already done that at some length in several threads. Essentially, he blames the vicitims for not having their shit locked up securely enough to keep him from being forced to swipe it. He also has a charming little story about moving from residential burglary to commercial burglary because of an unfortunate incident involving a local mobster from whom he stole. I disremember what it was, specifically, for which he did a jolt.

So, he shoplifts Rolling Stones CDs?

No. He gives handjobs to stray dogs.

Wishful thinking, perhaps, Scumpup?

Did you read what I was responding to, you poor excuse for a moron?

I’m not sure I care–I’m just enjoying kicking you for your myriad flaws.

Shower time is also fight time, not necessarily rape time–shrugs so I’m naive, but I interpreted it as you getting the hell metaphorically beat out of you since it’s clear you’re not being violated in any way.

Yes, that was funny.

That, or in search of an apprentice…

I love it when Scumpup turns up in one of my threads.

Within 2 or 3 posts - but he’s been known to do it in one! - he has me looking like a paragon of virtue and common sense… which I’ll be the first to admit, takes some doing!