What’s the appropriate level of abrasiveness for Yankee fans? I’ll try to meet your standard.
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Yeah. I don’t think his belovedness is really selling all that many tickets. If the Yankees overpay him because of this, it’s probably not the best idea. But there are other reasons to overpay him.
Those comments were descriptions of your posts, not personal insults. And you are well aware of the distinction, or should be.
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interesting article in the Times on Jeter’s situation. Aso James proprietary website recently included the idea that it would be best for the Yankees and Jeter to think of themselves as partners, not adversaries, in this contract negotiation, which makes sense to me, with the Yankees holding the upper hand.
The Yankees paid Jeter 189 million over 10 years. He has no bitch. Why should Jeter get a huge contract now? His contract should be equal to his ability to play. If he blew all the money, that would be his problem. If he has 100 million stashed, that is not the Yankees business. He should be paid for what he can do now.
I wonder how many of the superstars of today who made mega millions can be talked into staying in the game after they retire? Lower level management and office work would not pay enough to get them up in the morning. They need to spend time in the minors to qualify for being a manager. Would they do that?
Platers like Trammel and Gibson did not make that kind of money. They are working in the game. But would Arod?
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The following big league managers never coached in the minors:
Dusty Baker
Ozzie Guillen
Kirk Gibson
Joe Girardi
Don Mattingly
Joe Torre
They still did not make Jeter type money when they played… They also were bench coaches and base coaches. They did not suddenly become managers. Actually Trammel practically did in Detroit where he was a big fan favorite. But I recall him spending time as asst. coach .
Who said anything about money? You made a comment about needing to manage in the minor leagues, not being a bench coach in the bigs. Probably my mistake for not being able to understand that when you say one thing, you actually mean something else.
I clearly did in post 108. I said what I meant and i meant what I said.
Don’t be so obtuse. I am only talking about your assertion that big league managers NEED to spend time coaching in the minors, nothing else.
Why can’t you guys just play nice? Let’s rise above these niggling differences. Thanks for your civility and cooperation.
Heard this morning the Yankees offered Jeter 3 years, $21mil and they don’t mind playing hardball. Jeter wants more years, of course. Someone in the organization was quoted as saying, “Where else is he going to go? Cincinnati?”
I hope he goes somewhere else so I don’t have to continue hating him.
Indeed, very well-paid superstar players, after playing retirement, aren’t going to be enticed by the salaries for either minor league managing or major league coaching jobs. For that matter, they’re not going to be greatly enticed by any of the non-playing salaries anywhere in baseball; if any of them stay active in the game, it will have to be because they really want to.
On the other hand, there’s no particular reason to think that superstar players make good coaches and managers. Some would, no doubt–but not at a higher rate than guys who were just-pretty-good players.
JC Bradbury, the author of the Sabernomics baseball blog, gave an interview to Baseball Prospectus this week, and the topic of Derek Jeter came up. Here’s what Bradbury had to say:
Link, for those with a BP subscription.
Hmm…I don’t think other teams would shy away from Jeter at $7mil per season. Someone out there would probably even make it a 5 year deal. I’m curious *why *other teams aren’t throwing numbers at Jeter, just for the simple reason to get the Yankees to increase their offer.
I think that’s 21 mil per year, not for all three years. Oddly, 21 mil for all three years is MUCH closer to his actual market value. I can’t see why they won’t offer him 8 or 9 mil for one season, and risk getting into a bidding war, which they can easily win.
Yep, the stories i’m seeing suggest 3 years at a total of $62m. That is a crazy huge offer for someone of his age.
Apparently Jeter wants a 4-year deal. If i were the Yankees, i’d say, “Fine, we’ll give you 4 years for $62m.”