Yeoman Rand has died

Heh. You have a point. (Some producers are just tone-deaf to acting ability. Modern-day example: Once Upon a Time, which appears to have gotten a couple of cast members who can act purely by accident.)

ESPECIALLY Nurse Chapel! :eek:

Even the ship’s computer!

No, it was either Coon or Roddenporker. I’d have to go look in Whitfield’s book to be sure.

As for Trimble, her role in the actual production era has inflated itself (or, perhaps to be fair, was inflated by fandom) over time. She was not the sole link between the sound stages and the fans, much as that’s how the story is told now.

Roddenberry was of that hustling, pandering studio era - Jack Webb was another - who didn’t really give two shits about this “quality” stuff as long as they could keep doggedly grinding it out and the broadcasters kept buying it. “Get it shot, get it to the studio and keep it on budget” was pretty much the whole mission statement.

The prattle about changing the world and being a visionary and so forth is largely later self-promotion and adoring fanwank… and he bought it.

Sounds about right. But you have to admit the he’s a visionary stuff was being said very loudly by very many, and for a very long time. It’s easy to understand what a temptation buying into it had to have been.

I don’t like to be morbid (at least not in this case; I loved Yeoman Rand), but what constituted a 36-year-old’s “drug problem” in 1967? I doubt she was mainlining heroin. Prescription barbituates? Speed?

The story possibilities being that she was originally intended to be a love interest for Kirk, but they decided not to go down that route.

I believe that, I just wonder if they were going to keep her on anyways before she complained about the rape. And I could see any boozing being in response to her lesser role and exaggerated to cover up the rape part.

In other words, I have no problem accepting all of these utlimately as the reason, and I doubt we would get any closer if she were still around.

Still sad, however.

Almost all of the women on Star Trek looked like suburban housewives in their mid-30’s, regardless of marital status, age, or home address. It was the times, I guess.

…but dressed like 23rd century car hops.

It was alcohol, from what I recall.

Yeoman Rand was gorgeous to my young teenaged self. I only saw TOS in syndication, but Grace Lee Whitney was one beautiful woman.

Of course the mini-dresses helped.

I liked her in the few episodes she did. I recall reading an interview and she mentioned getting hooked on diet pills. A common problem for actresses trying to maintain a slim figure for tv work. Apparently she was pressured to lose weight for the Rand role. Add in alcohol and she was in serious trouble.

Happy to learn her later years were much better.

R.I.P. Grace

That seems unlikely. Grace Lee Whitney herself wrote quite candidly about her drinking and drug use in her autobiography. According to her son (quoted in her Chicago Tribune obituary), she also did a lot of work helping other recovering addicts. She seems to have considered herself an addict, and I’m not about to second guess her. Did the assault perhaps exacerbate whatever problems she already had? Quite possibly. But she was quite clear that her addiction, whatever led to it, was very real.

From what I recall, it was mostly amphetamines (in the form of “diet pills”) and alcohol. I’ve also seen some mention of marijuana.

Oh NOES! Tell me she wasn’t a MARIHUANA ADDICT???

Uhh…what? Nimoy and Shatner were friends forever. And Kelley refused to get involved in the drama.

Absolutely. She was never an addict. She was just a big liar.

She kept the cover story for 35 years acting like she had a substance abuse problem. Damn, she was good.

She also was in the Voyager episode “Flashback.” IIRC, Rand was a sort of mentor to Tuvok, showing him how to get along with Captain Sulu of the Excelsior.

You’re claiming that she had a substance-abuse problem for 35 years? Or are you referencing the well-documented fact that for 35 years, she spoke about having had a substance-abuse problem in the past?

Surely, no matter how Disgruntled you are, you can see that these are not the same thing.

She found a career for herself in working on sobriety issues. If that meant disclosing, often, in interviews, speeches, and in her 1998 book, that she had used diet pills and alcohol at points in her life–then she disclosed those things.

But it does not follow–logically–that she was canned from Star Trek or that she was unemployable as an actress due to addiction. And it certainly doesn’t follow logically that she was “a liar.” (Really?)

It just means that she found her calling as someone who disclosed abuse in the past that she had overcome through sobriety programs. It was what she did:

I, uhm, think Pengy was, perhaps, making “a leetle joke”* here? :dubious:

*To be read in the voice of Ensign Chekov.

I refuse to believe this about Susan Oliver. I prefer to believe our girl could land one awesome kick to the nuts.