A life, I think;) Can’t have one of those. You wouldn’t be dependent on her for meaning and, y’know, fun.
Shit, was that my Bitter Teen Angst again? I thought that was supposed to go away once I got out of being a teenager…
[sub]Juniper, is it my imagination or did we establish a few months ago that Teen Angst covers roughly the ages between ten and eighty-five?[/sub]
Don’t tell me you like Mickey Hearts World Music “Gyoto Buddhist Monks” chant cd? I love that. are there any other Tibetan chant CDs you would recommend? It’s hard to find a good one as you probably well know.
Hey, you leave Iggy out of this! As if Marilyn Manson doesn’t have wet dreams about being Iggy Pop!
Oh. Nevermind!
Haven’t picked that one up yet (although I’ll have to look for it), but a friend of mine had an old recording of the Gyoto monks released on the Windham Hill label (I think…it’s been about 20 years ago) which I loved. The disk I have with which I lovingly irritate my coworkers is an album called Chö by Choying Drolma and Steve Tibbetts. It’s nuns rather than monks, but thoroughly enchanting. It would make an interesting contrast to Mr. Manson. 
Indeed. Sometimes it starts sooner. Prenatal cases of Teen Angst are, while unusual, not unheard of.
Hooray! Now I get to do my Manson rant!!
A few quick points:
Marilyn Manson is the name of a band, as well as the frontman of that band.
The aforementioned band rox0rs my sox0rs
The aforementioned frontman is a publicity whore who will do anything to shock someone and get some press. He has talent, but he cheapens himself and his band with his stupid antics.
Now an album by album defense of why I love Marilyn Manson:
Portrait of an American Family- RAW AS FUCK!! Roaring guitars, wacked out synths and theremin, bouncing vibe, drug-soaked darkly psychedelic vocals/lyrics. Required listening: “Dope Hat”
Antichrist Superstar- Industrial masterpiece. With Trent Reznor at the helm, they created a filthy, pounding, disgusting, offensive, dark as all hell album full of raging buzzsaw guitars, drumming that you can bang your head against a wall to and truly scary samples. Understandably the height of Manson’s popularity- his peak of outrageousness with much less silliness to it and music that rocked HARD. Required listening: “Irresponsible Hate Anthem”, “The Beautiful People”, “1996”, “Angel With the Scabbed Wings”, “Antichrist Superstar”, “Man That You Fear”
Mechanical Animals- My favorite MM album. Glam rock for a coked out, overmedicated, white and barren world. Tells the story of a rock star with a dark and cynical persona (hmmm…) who does a lot of drugs, fights with his band and fears losing himself to the character he’s created. All the while he is surrounded by faceless, inhuman people who are surrounded by so many layers of falseness he loses even more faith in the world. He becomes obsessed with a drug and a girl, both named Coma White, and discovers things about himself on the way. An incredibly honest album that wasn’t recieved well by his core fan base, but which rock critics largely enjoyed. Lines like “this isn’t me… I’m just a boy/playing the suicide king” showed us a glimpse of what was going on in Manson, inc. Required Listening: All of it… if i gotta pick, “Great Big White World”, “The Dope Show”, “Mechanical Animals”, “Rock Is Dead”, “The Last Day On Earth”, “Coma White”.
Holy Wood- A step back toward the older style in the wake of the previous album’s commercial disappointment. Pain, suffering, weird sounds, rage, it’s all here. A few disappointingly poppy songs on here, along with a few gems. Required Listening: “Target Audience”, “Coma Black”
Anyways, yeah. The band rocks, especially prior to their last album. I wish they weren’t always making me feel stupid for liking them by acting like complete idiots. I didn’t always feel that way though, when I was like 15 I loved it all. He spit on me at a concert and I was thrilled for days :). Now I just listen to the music.
LC
Another 31-year old chiming in as a big admirer of the Manson-man-thing. I think the whole Manson-persona is very well done. It might be a gimmick, but hey : anybody remember David Bowie/Ziggy Stardust of the whole Pink Floyd/The Wall theme?
I especially loved Mechanical Animals which has some of the most beautifully depressing songs ever written (in my taste).
By the way I love all sorts of music except produced stuff like Britney Spears or al those terrible boy-bands.
I like a lot of Manson’s more popular music, mostly the stuff he has on movie soundtracks, but I won’t directly support his antics by actually purchasing his music (no, I don’t steal it; I just only listen to it when it’s on another media). I’ve watched interviews with him on DVD contents and the part that amazes me the most is how intelligent and articulate he is, even when he’s high as the ISS.
At least you don’t have to deal with people accusing you of being a NAZI every time you buy a CD.
Thirty year old freak checking in.
True, but soundtracks (scores, actually) are the closest you’re likely to come to that type of music anymore.
Braveheart, Gladiator, Stargate, and anything Vangelis or Danny Elfman ever even breathed on. Graeme Revell’s score for Dune (the 2001 version, not that horrid POS with Sting) is also outstanding.
I’m also hearing a lotta good things about this ‘John Williams’ guy – the kid is showing a lot of promise.
Oh: NiN > Manson.
IMHO. YMMV. IANAC.
Well; It seems I’m not alone out there in admiring Mr. Manson.
My favorite songs by him are disposable teens, beautiful people, coma white, I don’t like the drugs but the drugs like me… tainted love is alright, but its kinda fake to me… golden years is good too.
Last night I was listening to “beautiful poeple” on a big shiny tunes cd,(if you don’t get that in the us(which I highly doubt) its a cd with about 17-20 different sons that aren’t pop) and My mothers husband came in demanding who it was. He threatended to break the cd when I told him it was MM… I told him to go blow a donkey.
I’m grounded now.
Buy some Deicide, Morbid Angel, or Napalm Death. After a few of those songs, Marilyn Manson will seem so much tamer in comparison.
I can attest to magic8ball’s taste in music. Aside from what I feel is crap (sorry, sweetie), she seems to enjoy quite a varied collection. Of course, she comes by her love of diverse music honestly, since I’ve been pounding it into her head for the last 15 years.
$23 CDN is average for a cd in Yellowknife. The prices there are outrageous for everything.
Not to open up a can o’ worms here, but on what planet are you from where Marilyn Manson is not “pop”? It is evident that you are one of those people who prides themselves on the selection of music that you listen to, I used to be like that when I was your age (10 long years ago, thank god).
I am not saying that MM is a talentless hack, because I think he has some good songs, but all in all he is mediocre, even for pop metal. In the world of metal, and I don’t mean Metallica, Disturbed, etc… “metal”, but real progressive metal, he is as pop as you can possibley get. He is on the same level as Limp Bizkit or Korn.
If you like metal, or can stand listening to bands that aren’t mentioned on Mtv or Much music or whatever, check out Dillenger Escape Plan. They just did a collaboration with Mike Patton which is awsome. I guarun-fucking-tee that DEP will make your mom suck out your soul and send you to hell if that is what you want, which it seems is part of your goal.
Stinkpalm, you’ve read my mind. My sole purpose in live is to piss my mother off. Shes already insane though, but thenthats genetic. right Antie Gingy?
I agreee that MM isn’t heavy metal, but as long as hes not fully pop, then I enjoy him. Tainted Love is, I think, one of his poppiest songs, and one of his more sucky ones. I admit though, I still like it a bit…
Oh come now. Marilyn Manson was hugely popular back when I was in high school, and that’s getting to be some time back now. It’s not as if he’s some underground phenomenon.
Come on Lamia, magic8ball is a rebel, a dark, scary, parent hating, mysterious stranger. Don’t harsh his ‘individual’ buzz with your facts!
That was an intellectually stimulating, well-thought-out, coherent contribution to the discussion.
Oh yeah. And magic8ball is female.
Please, though, do go on.
When I was 15, I was listening to a lot of Yes and Genesis. That’s a lot like Manson, right?
Um. Right?
I hate you all.
Magic8ball, like Marilyn Manson, seem like a wholesome young lady seduced by the sinful joys the world has to offer. REPENT I TELL YOU!! IT’S NOT TOO LATE TO SAVE YOUR SOUL!! Mrs Manson has turned from her wicked ways and so can you!!
http://www.webspawner.com/users/sistertaffy/missmarylinmanson.html
Seriously, don’t pay any mind to the record store employees. More often than not , they listen to music that is lesser known; i.e. unpopular that hardly anyone can criticize their tastes. example:
[snooty clerk] ''yeah, i’m into ‘yugo monkey fist fight,’ yeah, like, they’re like, um the most solid band since ‘the fainting fetuses’… yeah… right up there with ‘ironic bathwater.’[/snooty store clerk]