If it makes anyone feel better that thread has convinced me not to get a dog. Then again my sixteen pound cats would probably eat it so I really wasn’t planning to but I just thought I’d tell you.
Yog,
Don’t get a Maine Coon. They’re very pretty but they can be quite demanding. My Mainer really does need a monthly bath or she’s a huge clump of knots. We wind up having to spend at least two hours a week bribing her into letting us keep her fur in good shape. Even then I’ve had to get her shaved several summers at the vet’s recommendation.
If your sister really still wants a pet tell her to go to a shelter and rescue an older short haired cat. Petfinder has a huge list of animals she can check out if she’s serious. If you are not trolling then turn something potentially bad into something where you can save a life. Many older cats are perfectly content to sit home. Just feed them and give them a clean litter pan. My shelter adopted kitty remains one of the best things our family has ever done.
So, just out of curiosity, if you got this new dog and this new dog started biting people, would you at any point start thinking, “Oh wait, maybe this has something to do with the way we’re treating this dog”?
Because I read your description of what you intended and read that you had a previous dog that bit, and I was pretty much certain it would turn out that you treated the previous dog the way you intend to treat the new dog.
As for your belief’s about dog socialization, what is your basis for that opinion? What is your evidence for coming to that conclusion? Can you give a little run-down about what you think “dog socialization” entails and how you came by your knowledge?
You sanctimonious fuck. So you are all up in arms about people judging you and the way you do things because your culture is different but you’re willing to call me an animal because our dog sleeps in our bed? Either it isn’t okay to judge someone based on their cultural differences or you are a social retard who can’t manage to be a functional adult. Pick one.
Why are you making me take Yog’s side? This is a very narrow-minded and ethnocentric attitude. I have a lot of relatives who never moved out of their parents’ houses. They had adult relationships, they raised children, took over the responsibilities of the household, and they cared for their aging parents until they died in the next room, surrounded by the children and grandchildren they loved. It’s not only a perfectly valid way of living one’s life, it’s also a very intimate and responsible way of living one’s life.
ANY dog will be capable of biting, no matter what the breed. I have a Westie that’s inclined to snap at people. We do our best to prevent her from doing so, when we have guests. (Generally, when people are here, she’s pretty friendly, just very territorial. We don’t have her around kids, and we usually put her on a leash when there are people around)
My sister was once bitten by the neighbor’s yellow lab. Quit blaming the breed.
And this… this is about the stupidest, most idiotic, ridiculous thing I have ever read in my life. EVER. And I have read a lot of stupid, idiotic, ridiculous things.
I normally stay the hell out of the pit, but your mindless mentality deserves this pitting.
I’ll take a dog over the likes of you any fucking day of the week.
Oh… and stay away from the sporting group, too, they are VERY people oriented and your treatment would be hell on earth to a good sporting dog.
Video games are an acceptable pastime for an adult. But adults have enough interests or responsibilities that they couldn’t imagine gaming for six or more hours at a stretch on a regular basis.
I actually think YogSosoth is right. He wants to spend his time online instead of dealing with a dog that he doesn’t want. Why would this offend anyone? Its his life, if he wants to spend it playing WOW instead of walking a dog, its his choice.
The problem is YogSosoth’s sister. She is the one who might make a bad choice. I agree with LavenderBlue that the sister shouldn’t have a long haired cat. An old short haired cat would be wonderful.
It bit because you guys adopted a breed that you had no fucking clue how to raise. And your opinions on dogs’ motivations are worth about as much as an ant’s opinions on space travel.
This is a topic you know fuck-all about. You can continue to be a stupid shit and waste your time going back and forth with more of your belligerent nonsense, or you could actually try to learn. Read a book, go to the Humane Society of Silicon Valley’s excellent page and read some articles.
You don’t have to be a useless blowhard. Maybe if you actually took an interest in something besides WoW and masturbating, you could set a good example for your retard of a sister.
No, because the last dog bit. Dogs bite, and unless it was tearing people up and drawing blood, I can deal with a biting dog, especially since we’re not going to get a big one. When the Chow used to get angry, I would stick my entire fist out and dare her to bite it. It was too big for her to do so, so she mellowed after that
The previous dog didn’t bite cause of us, it was a biter before it came to us. We got it from a neighbor
My basis is much like how people keep telling me that all dogs are different. I’m suppose to think all dogs are different, so I can’t find one who doesn’t like to socialize, yet contrary to that, I’m also supposed to believe that all dogs are different yet all of them bite because they are unsocialized? That logic doesn’t work, sorry. Dogs bite, dogs are different, and we treated ours good enough that it didn’t get bitey. Besides, it only bit when we did certain things, so its bite was not a character flaw of its conditioning but only in response to certain things
Hey I’m only saying that cause many of you guys are assholes. I grew up around dogs, with dog people, and NOT A SINGLE ONE of them ever had the dog sleep with them on the bed. Besides this is the Pit, so I can say things like that. If you and others think that’s mean, then maybe don’t take your own dog sleeping arrangements and pretend they are normal. And yeah, sanctimonious, me, that’s rich. This coming from a person who’s advice to people who don’t even keep dogs indoors to sleep with them. Look, I don’t know what kind of devilry you’ve worked up with Satan to get your demon pets to not rip your throats out at night, but our dog will not be sleeping with any of us
That’s only in China where you have that 1 child rule. And you’re not supposed to notice the period thing
Oh calm down and don’t get your panties in a bunch. I was half kidding when I said that :rolleyes: Really now, I get death wishes in the other topic and you expect me to talk to you nutjobs seriously all the time? Maybe if you people dialed back the anger and focus on the topic we can get back to it
Its not like I do it everyday. Don’t be crazy
Yeah yeah, and your opinions on my opinions on dogs are worth less than a…yak in heat! Besides, space ants will be our future overlords and will need many of us to toil in their underground sugar mines so if I were you, I’d pay more attention to their views on space travel
Plus, like I said, we’ve had a dog before, raised one for years and it was generally ok, so I do know a lot about fucking dogs. Wait…that didn’t come out right… I know most of what I need to know about dogs to raise one decently. You people want to turn me into the fucking Dog Whisperer. I don’t need that, I just need some topics to raise for my sister who is actually the one, in case you forgot, who is going to get the dog. Not me. Maybe if realized that instead of going all psychotic on me with the backing of your half-human, half-animal Pet Brigade you’d actually teach me something useful so I didn’t have to act like a useless blowhard. And that came out exactly how I wanted it so there ;pppppp
I’ve never been around a dog that bites. Like humans, dogs are individuals. Also like humans, dogs have tendencies. All dogs are not the same, but certain things will harm all dogs. For example, a mastiff and a chihuahua are quite different, but both will be badly harmed if they drink anti-freeze or if they are struck every day.
Dogs, in my experience, don’t like to bite. It makes them unhappy and uneasy. Dogs, generally, want humans to love them and they behave in appealing, puppyish ways to get that love.
What were the “certain things” you would do that would cause your dog to bite?
Like moving my hand towards its food bowl when its was eating, stuff like that. There was also this long tube thing that I would blow in like a giant digeridoo (sic?). She didn’t like that thing
And before you all jump on me, yes, I think its fine to tease your pet sometimes. Sheesh, its not the end of the world
Now I am sure you asked that just out of curiosity, and not because you had some ulterior motive, like saying “Ah ha! You are a bad dog owner! Now that I know what you did to it, I will list all the things you’re wrong!”
That probably means that you were having a dominance battle with her. A well-trained, well-socialized dog who knows her place does not growl or bite when her food is moved. It’s important that you be the leader of the pack. Despite your belief that dogs just bite and there’s nothing to be done, this is the sign of behavioral problem that was (probably) fixable.
Look up “food aggression.” It’s not just a normal and a given for a dog to have it. Biting is not normal.
We weren’t interested in training her any more. She didn’t poop everywhere and knew some tricks. We just didn’t try to grab the food bowl, so we both were content with that arrangement
/Kelly’s Hero’s voice/No, baby, they don’t. /Kelly’s Hero’s voice/ A well trained, well socialized dog does not bite, unless under severe duress. I’m a standard, average dog owner. My dog knows her name, comes when she’s called and sits. That’s about it. (Except she also lives inside with us and sleeps with us. I guess that makes us animals too. :rolleyes:)
However, one thing I knew, when she was a puppy, was that she must never, ever, growl at me, bite, or think she was in charge in any way. To that end, the very first time she tried to growl at me for touching her food, I did a dominance roll, and when I fed her for a month or so after that, moved the food randomly while she was eating, making it clear that I controlled her food, I was in charge, she ate when I said, and she didn’t get to say anything about it.
Today, my happy, socialized dog lives in our house, sleeps at our feet during the day and in the bed during the night. She’s also quite safe around anyone who comes to our house, including small children who might, for instance, move a food bowl unknowingly. While there are dog fanatics out there, the majority of the advice you’ve been given is stuff reasonable, rational dog owners do. The fact that you don’t find it so is your problem, not anyone else’s. Do you not think that the fact that the vast majority of people think your dog-owning circumstances are pretty shitty should make you at least think? Or do you think that it’s you that are right and everyone, everyone else is wrong? Because if you think the latter, then I’d start looking up personality disorders online, to see if you have any other defining characteristics.
I think this about says it all, doesn’t it? “Teasing your pet” to me means pretending to throw the ball or the stick and seeing if they run after it. It doesn’t mean blowing into plastic horns so it hurts their fucking ears. No wonder the dog used to bite you. I’d bite you too if I were your dog.
My dog’s become rather cranky as she gets older and tends to snap. The difference is, we don’t just throw up our hands and say, “oh well, dogs bite!” No, she gets yelled at. We also don’t tease her, or definitely don’t try to challenge her over her food. That’s the very thing that WILL cause a dog to become aggressive*.
Jesus Christ, I wouldn’t trust you with a pack of sea monkeys.
This has nothing to do with “animal worship”, but common sense. Christ, you’re fucking retarded.
*The main problem we have is trying to groom her. She won’t let anyone trim her face anymore. She used to, but like I said, the older she gets, the crankier and more stubborn she is. And she only lets my mother bath her. We tried taking her to the groomers, she wouldn’t let them do it either.
I know most of what I need to know about dogs to raise one decently. You people want to turn me into the fucking Dog Whisperer. I don’t need that, I just need some topics to raise for my sister who is actually the one, in case you forgot, who is going to get the dog. Not me. Maybe if realized that instead of going all psychotic on me with the backing of your half-human, half-animal Pet Brigade you’d actually teach me something useful so I didn’t have to act like a useless blowhard. And that came out exactly how I wanted it so there ;pppppp