YOU NONSMOKERS LEAVE ME THE HECK ALONE!

I’m sorry, but I just had to laugh my ass off when I saw that. Butt buddy? Jesus H. fucking Christ in a chicken basket, I haven’t heard that one since the 6th grade. What a blast from the past that was.

We now rejoin this pointless crap-fest, already in progress.

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Yes, I believe that smoking has the potential to be hazardous to your health – but then so does alcohol, if carried beyond a certain level.

No, I don’t believe that second hand smoke is anywhere as hazardous as they are proclaiming.

(Side note: Some years back, it was determined that cooking meat over an open fire causes cancer and that the smoke was hazardous to one’s health. Nothing changed. An interesting thing is that one may dispose of ashes from a natural wood or natural coal fire as fertilizer but if you use commercial charcoal briquettes, you may not. It seems that the commercial products contain heavy metals and chemicals that can leach into vegetables and eventually into you.

However, no one has yet done much of a study to determine if any of the millions of pounds of commercial charcoal briquettes cause cancer through smoke or fumes – separately that is. They are lumped into the study previously mentioned.)

I like to do a lot of meat smoking, but I use aged wood that I cut from Oak along with pounds of Hickory chips soaked in clean water.

Sentinel:

I assume that your sig line refers to the popular cartoon characters created by Bill Watterson.

If so, that’s "Hobbes.

Carry on.

Just last night I was giving a smoker-friend of mine a ride when just the smoke in his clothes made my lungs ache.

(Exasperated look on face) MEGA! You probably are allergic to cigarette smoke, which is a whole other thing entirely.

I have friends that are allergic to tobacco smoke so I take precautions when I visit them or they me. Even to the extent of having an air filter running when they drop in and then I smoke outside so as not to bother them. Even so, they don’t gripe, complain, piss and moan about smokers, knowing that the allergy is something they have that most others don’t.

If they go somewhere that they might have a reaction to the smoke, they take medication instead of demanding that everyone else stop smoking. Just like people who have other forms of allergies do.

So now you are diagnosing Mega’s condition over a MB!

Maybe it’s just that the smoke is nasty and it makes her lungs ache because it’s nasty. (I dunno, I’m no doctor, neither are you.) Maybe…oh…but we don’t want to learn that. We don’t want to learn that second-hand smoke is really as nasty as they say. Never mind. Whew. That was a close call. Might’ve actually learned something there.

THAT time of the month for you, is it yosemitebabe?

People without sensitivity to tobacco smoke do not get pains in their lungs just from the scent clinging to clothing. People with allergies might. Even if MEGA is not allergic to the smoke, her own, obvious loathing to the product could very well trigger psychosomatic symptoms.

I don’t like cigars and I recall having to deal with people who smoked them exclusively and I could smell the smoke on their clothing, in their offices and in their homes and found it distasteful but found no reason to bitch about it. I found it often trying to be in a lengthy meeting with several cigar smokers as the atmosphere in the room turned gray and was relieved to escape into the clean air later, plus noticed that my clothing reeked from the stronger smoke, but I didn’t gripe incessantly about it.

You fanatics go on a cause celeb over the slightest whiff of the stuff. How about bitching about automotive exhausts – which are deadlier but the mega political pull of car makers aligned with oil companies have managed to keep that little tidbit down and out of sight, mostly.

Are you people still talking to this cretin?

This moron has the I.Q. of an ice cube, and is a complete waste of carbon.

He’s the lowest form of life on this board and isn’t worth a single pixel.

** Do not feed this digusting little troll.**

Yeah, WallyM7, I notice you’re not only still sticking your nose in where it isn’t wanted but still reading these posts.

As I have stated before - if you don’t like what I say, shut the fuck up. Maybe I should start tracking you all over the SDMB and post sarcastic comments about you, like you seem interested in doing to me.

Freedom of speech, fuckwad, freedom of speech. I can say what I choose so long as I’m within the parameters of the SDMB and anyone may read and respond to what I say – unless they’re scared off by the Nazi-like little group of you who seem to think you own and control the board.

I second that thought. Wally seems quite anti social for the most part. His large post count seems to keep him floating above the rest of us for somet reason.

I personally think he’s an asshole. He chimes in with useless information… one day there will be an entire thread devoted to Flaming him. It’ll be funny.

The established posters will defend him, the newbies will side together, the board will be ripped in half. The mods will side with the established users, and they’ll have their own private little ‘pat on the back’ society.

Being futile I suggest that we leave wally alone. Not because he’s right, not because he’s not an asshole. Because we can’t win.

I don’t own this board. I’m just a poster.

But when I see garbage, I call it. This OP is garbage. And Sentinel is a troll. As were his previous incarnations.

And Thought, you’re welcome to open a pit thread and flame me. I won’t respond. You’ll have the field to yourself.

Some new people are a wonderful addition to the board, and some are assholes.

You belong to the latter group, jerk.

Ah-ha! WallyM7, you bad, bad, mentally corrupted cesspool of puke! You’re being found out!

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I don’t belong to a group. Senty isn’t a troll. He contributes. More than you do it seems. You sit around and bitch about how other people don’t contribute. Is that contributing? Haha.

Also, who are you to judge the people here? I’m an asshole because I don’t agree with you. You act holier than thou. Yet you are one of the worst troll/peice of crap/half as contributers.

I’ve not condemned you yet. I just stated I didn’t want to argue with you, with the time you’ve spend on the board it wouldn’t do any good. I’d get ‘newbie flames’. You don’t pay much attention do you wally.

Who cares what ops are garbage? Just because you don’t see it fit, doesn’t mean that others don’t want to contribute, it seems as if this has become 3 pages long even with your pleas for them to stop feeding the ‘troll’.

You remind me of the macarthy era with the ‘reds’ you acuse damn near everyone who’s halfway new of being a troll. Just knock it off and post CONTRIBUTIONS. Rather than useless retorts. Putz

Thought, you putz. Wally has been around for a long time, has contributed much of value to this message board. He has earned respect, by what he has written on this board. Not because of his posting count, not by how long he’s been here, but by the ideas and thoughts that he has shared. But you wouldn’t know about that, you haven’t been here that long. Why is it that no one else here has taken him to task, only you have? Because so many of us here know him. We respect him. You…you are an unknown quantity at this point. But you are not getting off to a good start.

Respect is earned. Wally’s earned his. Sentinel…well, I doubt too many here will think that he’s earned anything but derision.

Why do I have to prove myself. Look at the posts.

Lets run an experiment. Have the admins change wally’s screen name to something else. Have him type like he normally does. See how far he gets. Not far at all. With out that post count I don’t think he would be around very long.

Out of nearly 3000 posts. You’d HAVE to post something of worth my god. Look at the odds. C’mon.

I’m not getting off to a start? This is the pit so FUCK OFF. I can post any opinions I want to. Just because I don’t agree with you doesn’t mean you shouldn’t respect me. In fact you should respect me even more because I have the guts to stand up for what I beleive.

Hey Thought, why don’t you learn to spell what you believe, OK?

Seriously now. Your opinion on Wally seems uninformed. Sure, he’s someone who makes nasty comments in the Pit. Sure, he’s also someone who’s never ashamed to post a witty oneliner. So what? Has it occured to you that humour is an integral part of life as we know it on these boards?

And another thing: do a search for Wally’s posts. You’ll find LOTS of enlightning contributions. Don’t judge a poster by his words in one single thread. We’re not even doing that with Sentinel: we judge him on his entire published works as well. And you might wanna do a search for those bizarre rants as well: maybe you’ll think again before rushing in to defend this guy.

okay coldfire.
Point taken. I think I’ll defend just about anyone who’s sorta gettin’ beatin on. I’ve always taken to the underdogs.

I know wally has contributed. I just don’t like his tone. I suppose bitching about it won’t help. I politely suggest that he change his methods slightly to a less brash, perhaps more friendly approach to others.

I don’t see any ‘humour’ in calling people assholes, trolls or a putz. I just don’t see it. I’ll shut up for now though. I’m going to think.

Thought, I give you a lot of credit for backing away for a moment to think. Something like that deserves (nay, earns) some respect.

I did want to respond to a previous thought of yours:

Sure you can. And anyone else can disagree with you, and tell you why. Right?

If I think you are going off half-cocked, if I think you are not well-informed enough to come off so strong, I feel no obligation to respect your opinion.

Why? If what a person, (any person) believes is lame or stupid (in my opinion,) it is not worthy of my respect. I’ll bet those Neo-Nazis stand up for what they believe. I sure don’t intend to respect them. An individual cannot force or insist that anyone else give them respect. It is something that is earned. If a person doesn’t do things that earn respect, they are not entitled to respect. No amount of complaining about “not getting respect” should change that. A putz is a putz. And Sentinel has earned that title. He has earned little respect around here.

If you felt prompted to “defend” him merely because he was the underdog, then I think your energies were misplaced.

THOUGHT BEWARE !**

If you defend me, as much as I enjoy it, within a very short time you will be suspected of being another ‘fake’ name of mine. Almost anyone who has defended me has been labeled a ‘sock puppet.’

As for the rest of you assholes, I suggest you look at the posts I’ve responded to or made aside from the PIT. Pisswads!