PRNYouth
If you truly are a young person, you have just relieved me of much anxiety and assured me that there is hope for the world. God go with you.
That’s just great. Fantastic.
I’m a “pathetic little twat, scum, nothing more than dog shit, self-centered, put-off, an ass, a clueless asshole, soooo right, an insensetive asswipe, and wrong. Really wrong.”
I can understand that after three+ weeks of dealing with lost friends and family, and the unimaginable, horrific images with which they have been treated, the workers no doubt deserve something to help mend their weary spirits.
I can pretty much bet that that that cross is going to be around for a very long time, most assuredly immortalized in the form of some monument somewhere.
I have had a change of heart and agree that the cross must stand as a soul-crutch for the workers. What a lucky convenient find. So one last question, are they going to raise and immortalize all of the crosses that they find in the wreckage(there will surely be dozens) or will one suffice because it was the first. But wouldn’t more crosses mean more moral support?
Thank you, Sultan. I was having a problem in Great Debates, vis-a-vis Pascal’s Wager, illustrating the difference between faith and lip service.
Now, I can just link to your post.
Dunno. Probably. Would hurt you so bad if they did exactly that?
“Erect every cross they find?” [my grandpa]Now, that’s just crazy talk![/my grandpa]
If they need to worship an idol to maintain their strength then that just silly. Fucking stupid to be precise. All the strength that they will muster can and will be done so from their own strength and courage regardless. If the workers need stupid fucking mantras or need to play fucked up mind games with themselves to keep their strength then fuck 'em. Their idiots. A cross 'aint gonna do jack shit for 'em even if they are Christians. It’s a goddamn piece of iron, a fucking piece of metal. A Jesus Christ Fucking Almighty inanimate object! Aaaaaaaaand, they are still going to have the same shitty job with that stupid hunk of metal standing over them every fucking second.
Ditto.
You’ll excuse me if I’m crushed to the depths of my soul by your disdain.
That should be that I’m assuredly not crushed to the depths of my soul
I only included that last sentence to display irony. Good show on that.
As to “fuck 'em,” I have complete confidence that they would appreciate some relief down there. Perhaps you could pop by and do a better job without taking time for such petty distractions as not going insane from grief and frustration.
Go ahead. No, really.
Sultan:
You don’t know what you’re talking about. [Ross]You could not be more wrong. You could try, but you would not be successful.[/Ross]
You, moreover, have no interest in learning. This is not unusual; the world is full of self-important twits with no interest in learning.
Even this board, bastion of the fight against ignorance, has its share of such ninnys.
And the thing to do is ignore them, since they add no discernable value to the conversations in which they participate.
As Anne Robinson is wont to say, therefore… goodbye.
- Rick
I am not insensetive. I am not sadistic. I can be if I want to, but in this case I am simply being overly overtly PC.
Insensetive and sadistic I am not. My suggesting that they hang the body parts from the cross would in some eyes be insensetive and sadistic. I would never suggest such a thing. I don’t understand what the point of erecting a cross in praise of the Lord that apparently let 6000 innocent lives perish at the hands of a few crazed individuals. If I didn’t know any better I would think thay the crosses were in support of the killings.
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Yes, actually I wish you would. Seeing as how this is a website devoted to Fighting Ignorance, I dislike seeing people post sweeping generalizations, especially sweeping generalizations about religion, which are easy enough to verify or disprove. Why don’t you go get some actual info, and then you might have some evidence to back up your sweeping generalizations?
Or a Googled cite will do.
So, are you saying they shouldn’t have any kind of religious symbols at Ground Zero? Or is it just that it’s the Christian cross? Would it have been okay with you if they had found, and erected, a big Star of David? How about a big iron representation of the Arabic word for “Allah”, made of twisted girders?
How about if it hadn’t been a cross that Frank had found? What if it had been in the fish shape? Would that have gotten your panties in a bunch to quite the same degree?
How about an outline of Buddha?
How about the Egyptian ankh symbol?
How about the various symbols for the zodiac?
How about a Masonic Square and Compass?
How about a Wiccan pentacle?
How about a yin-yang symbol?
And Eternal: They’re still finding bodies, whose general condition probably isn’t improved by the four weeks they’ve been buried, and the FEMA teams are pulling out, leaving NYC on its own. The job’s only 15% done, with an estimated 10 to 14 months to go until it’s finished. Care to lend a hand? No? Then shut your piehole next time you feel a cynical remark about “brave, heroic rescue workers” coming on, 'kay?
Dear lord, I’m actually going to try to reason with him. Honey, listen. On the first day of a hearing or trial, I always have breakfast at McDonalds and wear my “lucky” suit. My ability to prevail in court has nothing to do with the breakfast or the suit, but on my own skill and intelligence. But they give me comfort.
Should I be fucked? Am I an idiot? After all, I look for comfort to inanimate objects. What about you. You got a lucky T-shirt? An old baseball your Dad caught at the ballpark? A birthday card your Grandma sent you when you were six?
Do you get comfort from them? If so, are you a fucked-up idiot? (Rhetorical question).
Naw, they’re called “symbols”, and humans, all humans, have been using them for millenia. The Iron Cross is a “symbol”, and the rescue workers who draw comfort from them are simply being human. Let them
Sua
Sultan, you ARE an insensitive, sadistic fucking dumbass. “If the workers need stupid fucking mantras or need to play fucked up mind games with themselves to keep their strength then fuck 'em. Their idiots”?!?
Go fuck yourself you braying jackass.
When my little stepbrother was hit by a car and killed, my step-mom redecorated one of their spare bedrooms with angels. It has become her angel room where she feels connected to my little brother and also feels that she is comforted by angels.
I cannot even fathom this belief. I do not believe in angels and I cannot image how this makes her feel better, but it does. She obviously needs this in order to cope.
I have more than the few brain cells needed to know to keep my mouth shut when it comes to voicing my skepticism of her angels. It doesn’t take a fucking genius to know when it is appropriate to debate religious beliefs and when it is time to shut the hell up. Obviously, you lack the intelligence and the tact to tell the two apart. Not that it would surprise anyone given the shit you have written.
Until you have the task of pulling rotting body parts from rubble and feel a need to grasp onto something that helps you cope just a little bit, then you don’t have a clue as to what the hell you are talking about.
And they should give a shit what you think, why? Get the hell over yourself.
You are a disgusting excuse of a human being to even suggest that had you been given the chance to be near the cross (I believe it is only rubble) you “* would have had no shame in voicing my opinion’*. You don’t mention that you would offer to help with the clean up or supply cold drinks or food to the workers. You don’t mention that you would be there offering support or a kind word of thanks to these workers. No, the scaly prick that you are would be there to ridicule something that was helping these people cope with the horror they are experiencing right now.
Shut the fuck up, idiot. These people are brave and heroic and deserve every ounce of comfort this big hunk of metal seems to give them. I must have missed the part where anyone said that we should give them ANYTHING the want so long as they get comfort. Did you graduate from the same School of Dumb Fuck Nuts that Sultan attended? It sure appears so. What are you doing this fine Sunday afternoon as “those brave. Heroic rescue workers are digging out rotten bodies? It’s easy for you and Sultan to throw insults at these people from the comfort of your keyboard. Big men you are. :rolleyes:
A news flash for you, Sultan, and the person who started the OP, Jongleur – Those rescue workers don’t give a flying assfuck whether or not you approve. Your opinion on this matter is worth less than a speck of ant shit, got it? Is that too much to sink into your shriveled little gonad you call a brain? Should I type slower or maybe use shorter words? Should I translate my English into the Dick Cheese language so it makes sense to you? Just lemme know how I can help, m’kay?
Until then, take my advice if you want to be looked upon as anything other than slime.
STOP YOUR FUCKING YAMMERING AND SLINK BACK INTO YOUR FESTERING PUS OF A HOLE.
Let me rephrase that - idiots with an extremely shitty job.
I can imagine that sorting through concrete rubble, glass, and the occasional arm or leg can be a pretty painful experience. I’ve never seen any dead body parts but I have handled a few dead animals and that was no easy task. The feeling of death sticks with you forever. That heavy, lifeless feeling that you would not expect from something that you are used to seeing run around your livingroom, like my cat.
When will they ever learn? Strength comes from inside of you.
They could have a thousand crosses and the job wouldn’t be any easier. Quote me on that.
Finally, he says something I agree with.
Oh, and he dealt with the death of his cat so he UNDERSTANDS what these “IDIOTS WITH EXTREMELY SHITTY JOBS” are going through.
Why don’t you just fuck off and go away. I can’t imagine anyone here will have an ounce of respect for you after today. Go ahead and take your dumbfuck shit buddies with you.
What about Manny’s suggestion that you go down and help with the recovery? Are you man enough?
Didn’t think so.
Oh and BTW, Arden,
that was a Freudian slip if I’ve ever seen one(the one mistake you didn’t want to make, you made) and I think it was kind of sweet.
Says shit for brains who sits behind the safe comfort of his computer screen.
Just how do you know this isn’t making their job a little easier for some of them? Yes, I am asking for proof and cites.
I’m with you, Sultan K.
I think this topic was dealt with better in the other thread, where people knew what they were talking about.
Oooh, ooh, looks like I just became a dumbfuck shit buddy. Woohoo.
I bet that guy that found the cross had it erected just so he could get in the newspapers. Go ahead, tell me he wasn’t just flexin’ his nuts. Everybody’s too goddmned PC these days to tell him to shut the fuck up and get that cross cut up and into the truck where it belongs. The foreman on the job makes himself look good for puttin up the cross and everyone thinks he’s a hero. Gimme a fuckin’ break.
YES, I’ll say it again in true sadistic fashion(quite possibly masochistic fashion knowing the hell I might catch), anybody who thinks their going to have any less shitty of a job because of a big-ass piece of metal stuck in the ground is a diluted idiot. So right now I am going to tattoo a cross to my forehead so everyone I meet feels a bit of the burden of life lifted from their shoulders. Damn, am I saint or what?