Alrighty. Pandemonium it is then.
Here is mine:
(Public) I was a trombone soloist in college.
I believe that corporations and the wealthy are no longer sufficiently taxed.
I believe that spending years building kids’ self-esteem does more harm than good, in the long run.
I believe that the Apollo moon landings were filmed in Hollywood.
I was in a biker movie.
I have performed on stage at Branson, MO.
Snarkiness doesn’t become you, story. I don’t have the game figured out. The dossiers don’t promise and insta-win for the Town. They sure as hell can’t hurt us, as far as I can tell, because they may give us some clues as to the identity of the killing scum.
Hal’s reveal is obviously curious, however.
I promise, if I see anything highly suspicious, personally, I’ll immediately point it out, and state why I think it doesn’t work with what I’ve got.
I haven’t seen any real accusations tossed about other than the ones leveled at zuma… who is a lightning rod for them in these games, whatever side he’s on.
Eh, these games make me snarky. I’ve learned to embrace it.
You keep saying this as if I am disagreeing about the revelation of dossiers. For the third or possibly fourth time, I am in favor of mass reveal of dossiers, and I think I might have been the first person to come out in favor of same.
What I’m against is: “I have figured something out, but I’m not going to tell you what.” This is utterly valueless. We’re obviously not going to lynch someone on the basis of that sort of thing: “Well, I see a pattern, and he violates it, and you’re just going to have to trust me on that,” is not sufficient evidence. Given that, and if you’re not going to follow through, why say anything at all? Just making the announcement gives the scum notice to look for a pattern. If you’re not willing to explain the whole thing, don’t mention it at all.
I am inclined to believe it, provisionally, but it raises serious problems for us if he is lying. To wit, his claim is not readily testable - there may be a way to test it, but I haven’t figured one out yet. More on this later tonight.
What do I think about dossier reveals?
Revealing the dossier publically does allow fo pattern analysis, provided that we can rely on the players to report accurately. With a full reveal, I suspect that we could do pattern analysis to spot anomalies and deduce whether someone has lied about their dossier.
Against this, the more people that have revealed their dossier, the better untruth a Silent Pig can construct. It’s quite possible that a late-revealing SP can construct a dossier that cannot be told from a real dossier even with all the dossiers fully revealed. There is about a 1 in 3 chance that all of the last three players to reveal are Good Guys (assuming we use a random selection method). That means it’s better than even odds that at least one of those players (whoever they are) is a Silent Pig, who will have loads of information to construct their dossier with.
Contrary to popular wisdom, Good Guys do have a reason to try and be among the last to reveal. If the Silent Pigs reveal first, they are more likely to make something up which is inconsistent with the Good Guy’s dossiers.
The argument that the reveal would prevent important information being taken to the grave by good guys killed unexpectedly is not something I give weight to, because the death post enables the player to reveal it anyway. Consequently it doesn’t sway me either way.
The problem I see with reveals is that if the Silent Pigs know all the details of every dossier (as they would if we implement full reveals) then we are handing them tools to deceive us. Unless a good guy lies about their dossier (and why they would do that escapes me) then the Silent Pigs can pick the killer with the best chance of revealing no unique facts to be the killer each Night by selecting the one that has most matches to the remaining Townies.
I believe that the killer must be selectable because otherwise the mechanism whereby the dead person is provided a fact about his killer from that person’s dossier doesn’t work unless the killer is a specific individual. It could be random selection by the Mods, of course, which would undermine that idea.
My conclusion? I’m still not 100% convinced that full dossier reveals are the right way to go. I’m strongly leaning that way, however.
Before I do so, though, I’d like to ask Hal Briston a question.
Hal, how many of the five private facts in my dossier are also public facts about other players? You don’t have to answer, but if you don’t want to please say that.
I’ve found something that looks suspicious about Zuma. I called him on it and am waiting for his response. I didn’t ask for a vote to lynch him - I didn’t even vote to lynch him.
It’s early in the week. If he can explain what I questioned him on, I’ll drop it.
Ahh fuck it. Truth of the matter is that the more that has become revealed since my first FOS, the more I’m convinced that Zuma is nobody. I was hoping that he’d come in here and respond. I was hoping that maybe I had stumbled on to something and his response would give something away.
The other thing I’ve learned about my prior mafia experience is that my crazy conspiracy theories could actually be crazy. Meh, I digress.
Santo Rugger’s full Dossier
(public) One of my high school classmates was killed in the attack on the USS Stark.
I sat next to Robert Plant at Fat Tuesdays.
I have eaten bull testicles more than once.
I have performed and exorcism
I believe zombies are inherently funny
I believe the cruelty makes foie gras all the more tasty.
Now it’s down to “Aliens steal my socks”.
But I getting the idea there more to what I was thinking than what I thought there was. <–No, that’s not meant to mean anything.
I don’t know if **zuma ** was truthful with his dossier, but he didn’t pull anything out of his ass. All of his statements are consistent with everyone else’s.
vote MHaye
what’s the matter, you need to know whether or not Hal can out you as a liar before you post your dossier?
EBWOP vote Mhaye
I couldn’t say. Please don’t anyone take what I’ve said to mean that I have copies of everyone’s dossier – I don’t – not by a longshot. I was given copies of x number of player’s dossiers, and will be very suspicious of those who fudge their facts or don’t supply them at all. I’ll also confirm anyone I can who posts a clean sheet.
The reason I called out faithfool by name was A) she was under heavy suspicion, and B) the b-ball score method of setting the reveal order put her in at second-to-last. I didn’t want to wait that long to start confirming.
I’ll mark that as “Can not or will not say” then.
I was not expecting you to have everyone’s; just that if you had my dossier, were willing to answer the question, and offered the right answer, then that might offer some corroboration of your claim when my dossier was revealed and you were seen to be right. (Conversely, if you were wrong that would go a long way towards disproving your claim).
Your actual answer is neutral, because you simply might not have my dossier, or perhaps you do and want to try and catch me in a fake. It’s the answer I thought most likely, but it couldn’t hurt to give you an option.
(@ OAOW : Now you know why I asked. You can choose to believe me or not.)
As for my dossier; my love of Zombie humour is well known.
(“What do we want?” Braaaains
“When do we want it?” Braaaains.
Cracks me up every time.)
Some lesser known facts about me : [ul]I have handled and fed a lot of snakes, alligators and crocodiles.
I believe the Honda Element is a good-looking car.
I enjoy practising the cello.
I played piano with Sly Stone in a Holiday Inn restaurant.
I have met Chuck Norris[/ul]That’s about it for my dossier.
Who’s next?
[del]1. Rysto[/del]
[del]2. MHaye[/del]
3. One And Only Wanderers
4. Freudian Slit
5. ShadowFacts
[del]6. zuma[/del]
[del]7. brewha[/del]
8. Hawkeyeop
9. sachertorte
10.Kat
[del]11.ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies[/del]
[del]12.HazelNutCoffee[/del]
[del]13.storyteller0910[/del]
[del]14.faithfool[/del]
15.Hal Briston
I stopped beating my wife on December 20th, 2005.
Regarding the “dio is town” statement. Yeah, I really believe he is. I’ve said before that I’m lousy at detecting scum, but pretty good at picking out town-aligned players. For now I choose to believe he is town. Obviously I don’t know for sure, but I bet I’ll be proven correct.
Would you be willing to share any reasoning, by way of convincing those of us who are currently voting for Dio? Your gut may have a good track record for you, but I’m certainly not going to rely on it for me. Why do you trust Dio?
Mostly because he’s been one of the most vocal about revealing the dossiers. As I’ve stated previously I can think of no good reason not to do it, and I think it’s important to have them out there on day 1. I have similiar thoughts about Pleonast at this stage of the game. I guess it boils down to the fact that I tend to trust people in this game whose thoughts and actions most closely match my own. Now, of course, I could be dead wrong (although I don’t think I am), but I find it easier early in the game to identify those who I think are town-aligned to help narrow my own search.
For what it’s worth: rest easy, you will be.
Not that that statement really means much, of course. 
Nice! Very Nice!
I have since come forward and said that I believe that you are just a vanilla town. No reason you can’t be town and an asshole though is there?
Fuck Shit Ass Bitch Cunt!
OK, I got that out of my system.
Yes, Zuma I may have unfairly FOS’d you. let’s get back to the topic at hand.