My earlier suspicions of **OAOW ** and **brewha ** for having no unique dossier characteristics are still with me. Some of you guys think that the dossiers have no bearing on the game, and granted, we can play a straight vanilla on vanilla game totally ignoring the dossiers. I, for one, think the dossiers were given to us for a reason and that they are part of the game. I am choosing to work the dossier angle in the early Day 1 - Day 3 or so stages of the game. After that I will have a better feeling on each person to do better post analysis. My gut is telling me that the unique trait is, if not important, then at least relevant…
If you say so. And how do we know what you do at night? You could just as easily be scum as anyone else. That is, at least if I’m understanding the game at all.
Well then, let’s get out the pitchforks! I honestly don’t care if you think that’s not much of a response, nor does it any longer bother me that you think it’s sent out a collossal universal sign that identifies me as scum either. Opinions, no matter how misguided, and all that. Oh, and I’m pretty sure that my inaugural game will also be my finale.
Well, I can’t understand how you can’t understand but then that puts us right back to where we were. I do believe that I’ve adequately explained myself to the point that others have judged differently than you, so I feel now that I will no longer contribute to this ludicrous hijack and leave you to your own devices. Enjoy.
I have no idea whether you engage in that or not. However, I stand by my vote because I really do think you’re doing this on purpose. If so, then that speaks volumes all by itself. Therefore, if no one else sees it that way either, than I suppose I’ll amuse myself over here counting flowers on the wall.
Is this the part where I point out that scum would probably say this exact thing? No, I think I’ll pass for I have no need to play Captain Obvious.
< more shrugging > If you say so, but then again I won’t be too concerned with that particular sentiment coming from your direction. You are the one who has latched on to me and I’ve (unfortunately) wasted all my time here defending against various allegations. You want to continue to spear head that up? Be my guest. Enjoy. Again, I feel you’re hiding something, no matter what it is. If that means my reasoning is “weak” or my presentation “bad form” then so be it. As I’m continually learning from you, it’s not about how you play but rather how you say you do.
Y’all, I’m really sorry for my nonexistent participation over the last seven days or so. I’m in Disney World right now, on family vacation until Sunday. I’ve barely had time to glance through this thread - my daughter is disinterested in napping or resting when there’s so many castles and princesses about - so I can’t contribute usefully until I return. Huge apologies, but I will resume excessive blather immediately upon my rejoining of civilization.
Oh yay, sarcasm. You know, you could just explain yourself and not be a dick about it. Everyone else answers questions directed at them politely and with the understanding that this kind of questioning is part of the game.
I’m not too pleased with your pat answers either. I voted for zuma Yesterday, and I will likely vote for zuma again Today. I’ll hold off to make sure my vote is for reason and not because I’m annoyed.
Can anyone decipher which attribute Cookies is trying to convey to us? I’m stumped.
Part of me wants to ignore it entirely since I’m of the position that the dossiers are a red herring, but the other part of me is ‘goal-oriented’ and needs to figure out what Cookies is trying to tell us.
Initial thoughts:
The killer lied and the characteristic given to Cookies doesn’t match anything revealed publicly. (e.g. the item is something like “I have swam with otters.”)
Cookies coded the message harder than Santo Rugger for some reason.
Cookies uses the word “piece” instead of “peace”
“Sea of Fog” is capitalized for some reason.
“free spirit” = exorcism?
If we conclude (1), I might have to apologize to Hockey Monkey.
**I once had sex in front of the Washington Monument ** = “You remind me a lot of this chick I met at the mall the other day.”, the voice said, first from my left, and then from my right, as I turned in circles searching for the source of the words. "She turned out to be something of a free spirit.
OAOW is the only person with both traits that have been revealed to be a killers.
Unvote brewha
I want to see it others concur about the meaning of Cookies’ revelation before placing my vote.
I was going to post a vote count…but there really aren’t that many votes.
Oh what the heck, here is a vote count anyway.
2 - faithfool (Dio, Pleo)
1 - brewha (ShadowFacts)
1 - Diomedes (Faithfool)
It takes 9 votes to make sure a lynch occurs. 10 votes will end the Day instantly.
You have until New Years Eve to reach some form of consensus.
Go Team!
P.S. Sorry about the missing vote from faithfool Day 1, it was on my spreadsheet so I am not sure why it didn’t end up in the posted count.
I cannot find any other revealed trait that is remotely plausable except for the one you listed. So unless anyone else has any ideas, it is either that trait or a trait that nobody chose to reveal. I’ll take a look at the threads used to see if any statement there seems more likely. If not, I would strongly advocate a lynching of OAOW, more for the fact that it is OAOW public trait that was revealed then anything else. We know that OAOW isn’t lying about that trait. In fact, in most circumstances, I’d be in favor of lynching anyones who’s public trait is revealed.
The area surrounding the Washington Monument is known as “The Mall”. If we take that line to be the clue Cookies dropped (and I certainly do) then that would leave OAOW as the only person to have both traits revealed in the two death scenes.
That would mean One And Only Wanderers is the killer, and by definition, scum.
The Washington Monument is on the Washington Mall. Killer met a chick at the mall that was a free spirit, or as I interpret, would have sex in a public place. I didn’t find any other statements that would remotely match. I imagine that the reveal of traits in the death scenes are going to be a bit more cryptic than blatant, and will require a bit of thought to solve.
Okay. I think I get where you are going. I had taken “mall” to be “shopping center”:
mall = washington monument?
free spirit = sex?
I guess that makes sense, but it is much more indirect than what Santo Rugger gave us. Santo Rugger’s death post was very clear (given the dossiers). Why would Cookies be so much less so?
The second dossier item (if correct) is quite damning though. The probability of a non-OAOW killer sharing two items with OAOW and having those two items show up in the death posts is vanishingly small.
I can support a OAOW lynch. But I’d feel better if we understood why Cookies’s death post is so very different from Santo Rugger’s. Do the rest of you feel the post is obvious? Am I simply slow today?
On preview: So I didn’t get it. You don’t have to be rude about it.
Cookies and Santo both got information from the moderator which I assume they both used word for word. I think the fact that Cookies was more vague was nothing more then the moderators finding a nice indirect clue for this dossier item. I looked through the complete list of dossier items and the two truths and a lie thread (I don’t think the other thread used would fit this item) and found nothing else that fit even a little bit. So while the evidence isn’t 100% that this clue fits, I do not see any alternative possibilities.
No no, that isn’t what I meant at all. I didn’t know if you needed my post explained or Hawkeyeop’s. Sorry to appear snarky. Not my intent. I too first thought it was a shopping mall, but then when I was reading through the dossier’s a lightbulb went on.
Cookies and Santo both got information from the moderator which I assume they both used word for word. I think the fact that Cookies was more vague was nothing more then the moderators finding a nice indirect clue for this dossier item. I looked through the complete list of dossier items and the two truths and a lie thread (I don’t think the other thread used would fit this item) and found nothing else that fit even a little bit. So while the evidence isn’t 100% that this clue fits, I do not see any alternative possibilities.
