You-Solve-It Mafia Game

Holy God.I checked this thread this morning, and there was nothing but faithfool and my feud.Now, OAOW is sitting on a clock?

According to my notes, he’s the only killer, if he did off both the Rugger and Cookies. But faith’s vote to put him on the clock,with only night owls and Europeans to view it before he hangs… keeps me off his bandwagon.

Yes, folks: this just in: Diomedes is refraining from hopping onto a lynch wagon. News at 11 (or 9:15, CST, as the case may be)

I will be taking my fiance to work when the Day ends (barring any unvotes of course), so Mtgman might end the Day if he is around that early. If he doesn’t I will be back home (yay vacation) at about 8:30 am PST. Just a reminder that the Day ends at 9:15 Central /7:15 pacific even if no one is around to end the Day.

Also, one more vote will end the Day instantly; even though Mtgman and I will probably both be asleep if that happens. Treat it as Night if it does happen, please.

Phone pnst! oaow looks like a good lych. but i do not like faithfool taking it upon herself to end the day early with nn town concensus.

Big ass fos on faithfool for shutting us down early. no matter oaow alignment. most likely scum, but that hammer was way early.

Faithful didn’t shut us down early. Any of the voters for the lynch could of unvoted to ensure more time used. I personally didn’t because I didn’t think we had too much to discuss until we determine whether OAOW is scum. Once we know that, we will have some insight into what a scum dossier looks like, and can use that knowledge to try to find more scum. So do you FOS all the voters?

I have my suspicions about faithfool but this isn’t a valid one. I would guess she didn’t even notice she was putting on the majority vote.

I give up. For everyone to pay such close attention to my posts when it fits a preconceived notion (IE: I MUST BE SCUM!! Oh noes!), they sure do miss other stuff. Like my first vote or the notice that I wouldn’t be back on the boards until the 26th. Not one person caught that. Further, the huge screw up that I did before the game started was duly noted. Fine. But how come no one sees where I said I have never done this before?? Jesus. So, to clear up the current suspicions… no, I didn’t realize that I was pushing us over the limit to immediately lynch. I thought I was acting in good faith (hah!) by not clinging to my previous assumption when there was so much evidence to the contrary.

Therefore, if anyone would like to instruct me on how to play correctly, I’m all ears. Otherwise, I doubt seriously if I’ll try to defend myself again. Unless of course, someone comes in and tells me how completely crucial it is to the Town. Gotta wonder though about all the grumbling due to ‘meta gaming.’ I honestly had no idea that this was what I’d signed up for.

And a thanks Hawkeyeop for at least giving me the benefit of the doubt.

faithfool~
[more than a little perturbed]

unvote One And Only Wanderer

Speed lynches cut short our discussion time. We agree that Wanderer should be lynched. Let’s talk about Tomorrow’s lynch.

a rushed lynch even one that kills almost certaian scum, doesnt help us.

So, the clock stopped when Pleo unvoted.

You can all keep talking.

I think you’re fishing for something that’s not there. I would think scum would be much more aware/cautious about being the deciding vote. I’m with Hawkeyeop on this one. There may be other reasons to be suspicious of faithfool, but this ain’t it.

Well, it looks like **OAOW ** is the one we will lynch today. So if you guys want to talk about the next lynch, I have a theory. It’s a dossier based theory which is how I am choosing to do my game analysis until the later stages.

My theory is that each of us are supposed to have 2 unique characteristics on our dossier. In the revealed dossiers some of us have 3, some 2, some 1, and some 0. It stands to reason that when the Disgruntled Pigs borrowed dossier items it messed up that flow. What I am going to focus on now are the 2 items that are shared by 4 people each. I don’t think the mods set it up that way. That’s my theory anyhow.

I’ve updated my spreadsheet to include a third sheet that goes something like this:

Player, Reveal Order, Trait, Shared With, Thread Origin

Santo Rugger, d1, I have performed an exorcism faithfool, hawkeyeop, brewha Two Truths and a Lie

faithfool 5 I have performed an exorcism. Santo Rugger, hawkeyeop, brewha Two Truths and a Lie

brewha 8 I have performed an exorcism. faithfool, hawkeyeop, santo rugger Two Truths and a Lie

Hawkeyeop (public) 17 I have performed an exorcism. santo rugger, faithfool, brewha Two Truths and a Lie

storyteller 9 I have performed on stage at Branson, MO. cookies, Freudian Slit, hal briston Two Truths and a Lie

cookies 10 I have performed on stage at Branson, MO. storyteller, Freudian Slit, hal briston Two Truths and a Lie

Freudian Slit, 15, I have performed on stage at Branson, MO. cookies, storyteller, hal briston two Truths and a Lie

Hal Briston, 18, I have performed on stage at Branson, MO. storyteller, cookies, freudian slit two Truths and a Lie

The red highlights represent a “clean trait”. Santo Rugger’s and **Cookies ** are verified through death. **Hawkeyeop’s ** is a public trait. I think either faithfool ** or brewha ** (or both) borrowed the exorcism trait for their dossier. The Branson MO trait has 3 potential borrowers, but I’ve narrowed it down to two - Hal Briston and Freudian Slit because **storyteller ** is one of the few with 3 unique traits in his dossier. I think the people with 3 unique ones share one of those with a Disgruntled that substituted. The people with 3 unique traits are in my mind less likely to be scum. The people with zero unique traits, I think are more likely to be scum. **Brewha ** and OAOW. We are going to take care of **OAOW ** today, and I think we need to lynch **brewha ** tomorrow. He as zero unique traits and probably borrowed the exorcism trait.

Based only on dossier information, here is my scum list in order of likelyhood:
OAOW
brewha
Hal Briston
faithfool
Freudian Slit

NETA: Oh, and feel free to poke holes. It’s a theory after all and we need something to talk about.

That’s a huge assumption to make, Hockey Monkey. I don’t see any evidence that we all have exactly two unique dossier items.
I’ve noticed something in the final words of both of the silent pigs’ victims. In both cases, the narrative indicates that the killer reveals their trait themselves:

The way that the traits are being revealed is making me wonder whether the killer gets to decide which trait gets revealed. If that’s the case, then OAOW is being set up. I think that this is the real 7% secret that our esteemed moderators warned us about. FOS Hockey Monkey for leading the charge against OAOW and Hal for claiming a secret ability that just doesn’t fit with the set-up of this game.

From the rules “Each time an Associate is killed at Night, one of the characteristics of their killer will be randomly selected and revealed to their victim.” So I think that kills that theory.

That, and the fact that the “real 7% secret” is the one I already revealed (although I know you have no way of knowing that for sure – it just gets frustrating to see theories being built about what the “real secret” could be).

**Rysto ** my dear, that’s why it’s a theory.

The two traits that have FOUR people sharing them are an anomaly that’s worth investigation.

Just out of curiosity, did you get another set of traits this morning? I can’t see how giving ONE player ONE set of someone else’s traits really affects anything in this game. It certainly feels like less than 7% of the game.

Nope – what I got in my Role PM is all I’m going to get.

My role name is the “Cubicle Eavesdropper”, which made me wonder if I was going to get more info as the game went on – perhaps I’d “overhear” someone drop one of their traits each day or some such. I PM’d the mods asking if this was the case and was told that nope, I had all the info I was getting. As it was put, “you’re now as vanilla as anyone else. You just know some extra stuff”.

I realize that **Kat **already commented on this point, and it may be old news, but I feel it is worth mentioning again since this was in response to one of my posts, and I’ve finally got some time to compose it.

According to mtgman:
“Each Night death will buy the town a NEW piece of info about one of the killers. So if Player 1 is killed by Scum 1 on Night 1 and they found out their killer was a Britney Spears fan, they can write that into their death scene(hit me baby, one more time). Then if the scum send Scum 1 out to kill again on Night 2 the new victim will recognize the first trait(due to that whole “being in their head as they died” thing) and notice something new about the killer. So they would be able to put two factoids in their death scene, the first being they are a Britney Spears fan, the second something new.”

As I read it, the ONLY way we’ll get two traits in one death scene is if it is a repeat killer. So, whether it turns out to be OAOW or not, it seems that scum sent the same killer out both times, which is an interesting nugget to digest.

I’ll also note here how **mtgman **put in the little “hit me baby” example, which seems to be a clear example now to how the mods are encoding (for lack of a better word) clues to the killer’s traits, like the whole Washington Mall thing.

More quoting the moderators. “there might be 3 or 4 closet New Kids on the Block fans.” Since the example mentioned four people sharing the same trait, I don’t think we should consider it impossible 4 people share the same trait. I would, however, still be willing to consider a Brewha lynch tomorrow if OAOW turns up as scum based on your original theory.