Young men and relationships

[LSLGuy]

@Mijin

I would agree with that, but in 21st century america it’s toxic masculinity IMHO.

I don’t have much actual data, but that sure sounds right to me. From some middle-aged friends who’re into the gym culture, they tell me it seems like steroid use is nigh universal in everyone who lifts.

Which sure doesn’t improve their disposition vis-a-vis women. It just further bathes their brain in artificial “alphahood”.

@Odesio

Hasn’t this been an issue for Black women for many years now? I remember articles from years ago essentially saying the same thing about Black women. Compared to Black men, the women were more likely to have a college education, a higher income, and a different set of values, so these women were choosing not to marry rather than settle.

Agreed. A point I almost made upthread but decided to skip for brevity.

Here is a post of mine from 2020 that’s on-point:

@LSLGuy

@md-2000

There was an article too about black women in America. Significant numbers of young black males are incarcerated, that black women looking for a black partner have slim pickings - aggravated by the fact that the early 20’s males are most likely to be in jail. Worse yet are the prospects for educated black professional women.

Anecdote time.

I’m white, married, 60+, but in good shape with a youthful attitude. My dentist’s technical assistant / nurse person is black, not quite 40, well-spoken, & good looking. Over the years we’ve learned a bit about each other through chit-chat. She’s single, childless, looking for a guy, and deeply frustrated. We were discussing that one day and I said (and meant): “Were I single I’d gladly ask you out. As long as you could deal with having an old fogey for a BF.”

Her instant comment: “I’d gladly take you up on it; you beat the heck out of the garbagemen and ex-cons who respond to my Match profile.”

Ouch! I was at a loss for words at that one. She’s a capable and sweet person and is just one of millions in a similar boat. It paints a vivid and painful picture.

That entire thread is about sorta the same topic as this thread: desirable women outnumbering desirable men and the concomitant problem of undesirable leftover men.