Your best employee's résumé contains at least one huge lie. What do you do?

Or, another Rhymer hypothetical.

Today’s story concerns Robin, a middle manager for a famous corporation we’ll call NunyaBidness. Robin supervises an inside sales team, one of twelve such in the call center she works at. This isn’t telemarketing; the IS employees do business-to-business selling and primarily deal with companies already using Nunya’s services, which involves things like negotiating pricing agreements, arranging technical support, helping the customers deal with regulatory changes, and so forth. They do both incoming and outgoing calls; each IS person has a geographic sales territory and is responsible for both recruiting new business and building business among their current clients. They spend 11 weeks out of a quarter in the office and the twelfth in the field. They’re assessed in two basic ways: productivity (time spent on the phone and number of calls per day) and sales (how much they revenue their territory brings in each year).

In Robin’s 20-person-team, there is a clear star, Mickey. Mickey consistently exceeds every productivity guideline by better than 10 percent. His sales numbers are even better than that; he’s consistently the IS in the call center. What’s more, he’s always ahead of the curve in continuing education and is a font of information. Everyone in the call center–not just his own teammates, but IS people from other teams and their managers–commonly turn to him as the quickest and most accurate source of information on several topics. Robin has more than once thought about recommending Mickey for promotion, and once even looked up his résumé to make sure he had the proper educational background; but Mickey always declines to go out for a better job. This doesn’t much bother Robin, as Mickey both makes her job easier and makes the entire team look better. The two of them are also good friends–or, at least, as good friends as is possible between boss and employee.

But one day Robin learns something that takes her aback.

She has a fuck-buddy, you see: Anne, a married woman so deep in the closet it’s a miracle she hasn’t choked on the hangers. Anne works in an extremely conservative field and refuses to be even seen in public with an out lesbian such as Robin; thus Robin knows their relationship will never involve more than rustling the sheets. Being commitment phobic, she’s okay with this.

One night, Anne & Robin are in the latter’s apartment outraging God, nature, and Pat Robertson. After the festivities are over with, Anne notices a recently-taken photograph of Robin’s IS team and lets out a happy chuckle; she recognizes Mickey, knowing both his first and last name. He used to work for Anne at a different company, Imagine Inc; then, as now, he was a star employee. He got fired for a reason Anne does not want to go into, except to say that it was utter bullshit, and she’s glad to see he’s landed on his feet.

But not all is wonderful. You see, the dates Anne says Mickey worked for Imagine Inc. do not jibe with what is on his résumé. Robin happens to have the copy of that document she printed out the last time she tried to get him a promotion; she double-checks it and finds that she’s right. Mickey claims he worked for the other company from 2001 to 2005 (immediately before starting work for Nunya); but from what Anne says, he actually left in 2003. (It is 2010 for when this happens.)

NunyaBidness has an explicit policy on lying on résumés: an employee found to have done such is to immediately terminated unless the vice president of the division–two levels of management above Robin–says otherwise. This issue has come up three times during Robin’s tenure; the VP refused to spare all three, but all of those were marginal or subpar employees rather than stars. The issue only goes to the VP if the offender’s immediate supervisor appeals the automatic process. Any manager or HR person who knowingly helps hire or promote such an employee is also to be terminated; and while simply knowing about it and keeping quiet is not a firing offense, a manager who does such is liekly to be written up for it if it’s ever discovered that she knew, and that could hurt her chances for advancement.

Robin did not hire Mickey. Both the manager who did, and the HR person who must have helped him cover up whatever he is hiding, have long since left Nunya.

What should Robin do?

To me the answer is simple. Leave well enough alone. Since Robin found out about it outside of work and has plausible deny-ability as they say; then why rock the boat? Furthermore this is something easily caught by a standard employment check. They missed the boat when they hired Mickey. I’d argue that it’s grossly unfair to fire Mickey now that he’s already working there. If it comes up again in normal work channels then Robin can fight for Mickey.

ETA, I think choices 2, 3, and 4 are bad options. You found out this information through outside means. It’s best just to forget you ever heard it. The only other option I’d consider is to pry Anne a little more. Tell Anne that she would like the info because Mickey being fired previously and to see if it relates to something she needs to know (Mickey raped a girl in a stairwell for example). Then if there’s a safety issue with keeping Mickey on; then decide what to do.

Way more than plausible deniablity, I’d say. Anne is never, ever going to admit to having provided this information.

I would say that only of option 2. It’s extremely foolish, as it means Robin has just taken a positive step to contravene company regs; she’s pursued the issue and surely has an obligation to share what she knws. If Mickey knows this – and, being as sharp as he is, he probably does – Robin has just given him ammunition to use against her if she ever has to discipline him for another reason.

Why do you think giving him a chance to resign gracefully is a bad option?

You left out: fukkabuncha crap about ethical obligations - just write prurient threads about the lesbian manager and her deep in the closet straight-laced lover.

1 or 5, depending on whether a rudimentary Google search (not conducted on a company computer) turned up evidence of the lie.

Because there’s no need to go through the hassle. Robin learned something outside of work; it could be true, it could not be true. Maybe Robin’s partner is mistaken. Maybe not.

In 2010, though, Mickey is a star performer who, from what you’ve said, is content at his job. The company is content with him. This is not a huge scandal being uncovered; it could be any number of things. Robin’s partner could be mistaken, Mickey could’ve made a simple error on his resume, or the company could’ve screwed up during employment checks in the hiring process. The point is, in the grand scheme of things, this is entirely trivial and could have a number of explanations. Given the manner in which Robin made this ‘discovery,’ IMO it’s best to leave it entirely out of the workplace and forget she ever heard it.

Blackmail baby!

Only joshing.

I would doubt that Mickey made a mistake on his résumé. The fact that he’s so good at his job, but declines opportunities for advancement, points that he is afraid of being exposed.

Does not the fact that he has lied on his résumé make y’all suspicious about his truthfulness in general?

Nah, not me. I made Anne a closeted lesbian so it was clear that, from that quarter at least, there was practically no danger of Mickey being exposed, or of Robin being exposed has having kept his secret if she did so.

I’d leave well enough alone. I think the guy lied to cover being un/underemployed after being fired for what Robin’s lover termed a ‘bullshit’ firing. The now-departed managers should have verified dates of employment when Mickey was hired (if the company takes lying on a resume so seriously). Robin can’t disclose where she learned the information, and the person who disclosed would not only deny she knew Robin, but also may be mistaken about the facts.

I don’t even understand this thread. What do we think we are going to find out in Mickey’s past? He quit a job, or what? He was fired?

I don’t understand the rule of “all employees who lie on their resume must be fired”. Sure, if you are hiring someone and you find out they lied, that’s one thing. This guy has proven his trustworthiness time and time again. You didn’t say how long he’d been working here, but this to me seems a great way to lose a good employee and seriously damage morale amongst other people in the office; if I found out a really good employee was fired for such a seemingly trivial reason, I’d be pissed. And unhappy.

Stellar employee?

Been that way for years?

Resume contains a lie? - Who cares. See above 2 lines.

Except that he’s in sales, where top front-line employees can often make as much or more than their managers, and many strongly prefer the sales work to any kind of managing, and it’s not unheard of for salespeople to stay in front-line work their whole careers.

I think in this situation, my instinct is to find out what exactly is going on – if Mickey was just unemployed, or working as a fry-cook, or surfing Mexico, for a couple years, then no big deal. If the two years were spent in prison for extremely clever embezzlement, then things are very different.

First thing, is get more info from Anne. Tie her down if necessary. Yeah, that’s it, tie her up. Then slowly, undress her, and rub…

Wait, what were we talking about?

The OP says that he started working for Nunya in 2005 and that it’s 2010 when Robin makes her discovery.

As for the firing rule, I’ve worked for at least one company that had such a policy. I think it was a reaction to a high-profile scandal, and as is typical in such cases, an over-reaction.

As for whether he’s proved his trustworthiness, I disagree. He’s demonstrated his intelligence & cleverness, surely; but I can imagine someone in such a job lying all over the place to inflate his numbers, and getting away with it simply because he’s so smart.

I agree that firing Mickey is massively bad for morale, even more so if the reason is known.

The problem with investigating further is that it brings Robin further into the lie, if lie it is. In particular, if she uses work resources at all to find out the truth about Mickey’s previous work history, she is, I think, ethically obligated to report him no matter WHAT he was doing in the missing two years. At that point, the only options that seem workable to me are to let him resign gracefully, fire him, or appeal to the VP.

He’s a salesman, it’s part of his job.:smiley:

[del]Pics, or it didn’t happen[/del] :smack: …wrong place.

No confrontation; start the discovery process immediately, if the suspicions prove to be true, kick him to the curb.

Mind you… we wouldn’t really care if he microwaved and ate the previous employer’s cat as long as he didn’t lie about it; any lie on the application, or during the interview process means automatic termination.

So she has never doubted him thus far and she should doubt him because of this lie.

Can’t she just check through his work? There must be a way to discover if he is padding his numbers. Some lies are worse than others, is all i think.

So, Skald, let’s say she spends ten minutes on google (on her home computer) checking various plausible keywords; does she come up with the news of this guy’s departure in 2003 from PreviousCo?

Dumb question.

From an employer point of view, what is a resume for? To help judge if a person would do a good job for you. You want people doing good work for you.

You HAVE someone doing good work for you, so, the resume is now irrelevant. Anybody taking action here cant see the wood for the trees, or has the cart before the horse, or something something…

Seriously, what is the company benefit behind taking action here? What possible reason would a good manger have to not just leave this dead and buried? Get him sacked and hire a possibly worse replacement, why the hell would any company want that? I mean, “Start discovery process immediately?” Why? So it turns out he did lie on the resume, who cares? The only question for the benefit of the company here is, “Is he doing a good job?”. Anything else is just window fluff.

If a line manager of mine fired an excellent member of staff over a lie in a CV, I would fire them in turn for being a crap manager.
(The only exception here would be if it was some legal matter, such as if he was a mass rapist or something, where you are legally bound to take action, but I hate exceptions, so fuck that)

Agreed 100%.

It does not imply that at all. I work in an industry where front line employees have plenty of opportunity to make more than their supervisors. I’ve seen several good people in my company turn down promotion offers simply because they’re making more in their current position. I’ve seen even more turn down promotion offers because they feel they can’t handle the added responsibility and pressure. Assuming that that he’s afraid of being exposed simply because he’s content with his current position is a big stretch, IMO.

No. There’s absolutely no proof that he intentionally lied on his resume. Even assuming he did, the company should probably consider how many people it already employs who have exaggerated or lied in some way on their resume before taking any action against this guy for what amounts to a harmless mistake.

I doubt it.