Shut up, you whining English loser! 
[sub]Pssst! Can anybody tell me if the USA made it in this time? And will I have to follow its progress beyond the first round for a change?[/sub]
Sounds to me like the Argentinians are just compensating for they pathetic showing in the FIRST Falklands War.
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Stop whinging all of you. Sweden will beat you anyway. :rolleyes:
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Keane will be fit to play. keane will be fit to play. keane will be fit to play. Keane will be fit to play
(if I say it often enough, it will come true
Wow, a whole thread on Argentina v. England and no-one has mentioned “the Hand of God” yet. But I think that would go against Estilicon’s “referees are all Argentinian-hating bastards” hypothesis.
Don’t mind if I do!
I told her that, I said, “Estilicon says, if I want to relieve stress and do better at work…” And then she slapped me in the face! No respect, no respect at all, I tell ya!
Our most dofficult match of the first round is against Sweden.
Yep. The USA made it again.
Hope springs eternal, but it could be tough. We face Portugal which is a very good team, Poland who cruised in qualifying, and South Korea who … well, they’re the home team.
Estilicon mentioned it in the OP to compare with Beckham not following the rules by tapping a diver. So his thesis statement is “When an Argentinian cheats by using his hands it’s OK since he scored another goal later. When an Argentinian cheats by taking a dive it’s OK because …” Well, I kind of lost him at this point.
Argentina has a great team this year. It’s a shame they constantly take dives. I wonder if it’s part of their training program?
Whoa. Now that is a freaky coincidence. I was listening to the Clancy Bro’s last night, and I thought maybe I’d go start a “Thady Quill Appreciation Thread” in CS. Seeing you mention him gave me a jolt!
For ramblin’, for rovin’, for football or courtin’,
For drinkin’ black porter as fast as you’d fill,
In all your days rovin, you’d find none so jovial,
As the Muskerry sportsman the Bould Thady Quill.
The problem here is one of attitude. The English Media does not seriously believe that Aldo Duscher broke Beckham’s foot intentionally. The Buenos Aires daily sports paper Ole, however, says that in some quarters Duscher is being hailed as a ‘national hero’ and that if Beckham stays out of action he (Duscher) is even more of a national hero.
Why, exactly, would an Argentinian footballer be a ‘national hero’ for injuring, unintentionally or not, an English player?
If some English player broke Batistuta’s foot he’d be a national hero too, Nostradamus. The English press might not be quite dumb enough to say so publically, but your average English football fan would sure think so. Admit it.
Argentina, hmmmmm, would that be the team that could only beat England by having their star player use his hand to put the ball into the opposition goal ?
As for the other goal in that match, well it was a superb goal, one of the best of all time, but it was still only one goal and Argentina needed the hand assist to avoid a drawn match.
Let me see if I can explain why the UK reaction.
Manchester United were playing Deportivo la Coruna in a match divided across two legs, one in Spain and one in England.
In the first leg Deportivo players ‘accidently’ took out the two most influencial players in the Manchester United team with incredibly similar tackles, both of which were sending-off-worthy offences.
Both tackles hit the players after the ball had left their possesion, so the idea that the offenders were trying to win the ball is simply not viable, and both tackles were aimed just above the ankles and were both two feet in at one go attempts.
Those tackles were so violent that one playmaker, Roy Keane, was unable to take part in the second match, and the other playmaker very nearly did not. As it was, during the first match, both of them had to retire.
For any world class side this double blow would have been a serious impairment of team playing ability.
One of those terrible tackles was made when it was already clear that Manchester United would win the first match, and it was widely seen in the UK as petulance and hubris in response to being beaten.
Onwards to the second match, and David Beckham has been able to play, his injury healed up in time.
Manchester United score and are leading one to nil, and surprise surprise, Duscher the Deprtivo player made one incredibly late and horrendous tackle in almost a carbon copy version of the disgraceful events in the first match.
Note too that in the second match there were several missed attempts at such appalling behaviour by Deportivo players.
Duscher was later sent off for taking a wild clip at the heels of the later goalscorer Ole Gunnar Solskaear (and ironically the replacement for Beckham).
Ole was running past Duschamps having outflanked him and was headed toward the goal when this ocurred.
I will add that there are no double standards here, when David Beckham reacted to a violent tackle which left him flat on the floor, he retaliated, it was very mild and the Argentine player clearly took a dive, but the fact is that Beckham was sent off and deservedly so.
It took two matches and a whole series of utterly disgraceful and cynical illegal tackLing before Duscher was sent off, and even then the ref had made a mistake because he had sent off another Deportivo player earlier, mistaking him for the offender.
There is no nationality issue here, just shite play by a team who are supposed to be among the elite in Europe, a standard they fell woefully below both in ability and in spirit.
Quite frankly when you look at the way Deportivo operated in seems clear to me that they were frightened of Manchester United’s ability and were under instructions to even the odds up by deliberately and illegally taking out the two main sources of concern.
To me I feel that UEFA should look at both those matches and then ban Deportivo from Europen competition for at least the next trophy series for which they qualify.
I really do hope that Duscher comes across Lee Bowyer whom I can almost hear sharpening up his elbows…
…and if Argentina is such a great place for football and a wonderful country, why do all their top players come to Europe?
…and when they return why do they become bloated addled cocaine users upon retirement ?
Yeah, like you have such a lot to boast about, methinks you should keep your gob shut and let the team do its talking on the field of play, they are plenty good enough, who knows, if they keep their boots out of axle grease and actually fit studs on their boots they might even be able to stay upright when an opposing player approaches them.
Good grief, what a fucking joke, and they call them great sportsmen
Actually neither side aquitted themselves very well. The Brits lost the island in the first place, then lost an embarrasing amount of their shiny new destroyers to the Arg air force’s 10 year old + planes firing FRENCH missles (that makes it even worse).
Of course the Arg navy lost ALL of their navy, shiny new or not (actually getting to utter the immortal phrase “you sank my battleship” in all seriousness). They also lost the island to an opponent with a huge supply line issue and even were spotted plenty of advanced notice of the brit fleet’s arrival (cripes it was televised. . . ).
Overall, a bunch of good people died over a crap-hole rocky island filled with sheep. Stupid, if you ask me. But then again, you didn’t so I will shut up now.
-me
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elf6c: While not an admirer of the French military, I always thought the Exocet was considered to be a pretty good weapon.
Go for it, man! And get me another pinta Guinness while yer up.
At the great hurlin’ match between Cork and Tipperary
Twas played in the park by the banks of the Lee
Our own darlin’ boys were afraid of being beaten
So they sent for bould Thady to Ballinagree
He hurled the ball left and then right in their faces
And showed those Tipp’rary boys learnin’ and skill
If they came in his way, shure he surely would brain 'em
And the papers were full of the praise of Tade Quill.
There are people who would applaud the breaking of Batistuta’s foot, and there are people who would like to see England play Argentina, 11 against 11, both sides at full strength with a firm referee.
The former are not football fans.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. OK, so replace “football fan” in my post with “so-called football fan”. The point still stands.
I think that what they would understand is that you have no idea just how little football means to the English. As opposed to some other countries with fewer positive contributions to the World, where it is more of a raison d’être.
I understood elf6c’s comment to be a remark of the irony of a British ship being sunk by a product of an ally. Were I in the British gummint I wouldn’t have wasted the fuel, much less the men or equipment, to defend the God-forsaken rocks. And elf6c answered his own objection to my use of “pathetic” to describe the Argentine performance. But was a tragically stupid war, no doubt about it. Better fought in football stadia.
Sounds like a porn spam I got to day. “Clog wearing dyke pluggers want your hard cock!”
Since the Falklands war was simply about two unpopular regimes trying to retain power in their own countries, I hardly see what the fuck this has to do with a post about one broken metatarsel.
Sarcasm or not, I do not feel at all charitable to wankers who make comments about a war in which some of my colleagues died, I was fortunate that none were close friends, but I saw the effect on those who were not as lucky as I .
Hang your rotten head in shame you scumbag.
You know who you are.