In what way? That it wasn’t ironic, funny, sarcastic, clever or witty? It was like she HAD a one liner brewing, and couldn’t remember the end:
“Hey buddy…you know what I’m going to do with this gun?..shoot you.” YEAH!
Let me emphasize that I was literally fetal with worry about what Wolverine would be because he’s such a definitive character for this comic and he’s also very easy to screw up. I thought they’d be politically correct and not let him smoke for God’s sake. That being said…I LOVED HIM. HE WAS PERFECT. When he was on Cyclops bike, grinning…HE LOOKED LIKE THE COMIC BOOK. I was amazed at it.
BUT…as a die hard wolvie fan, I have to emphasize that they are ALWAYS calling him pint size…tiny, short. I remember when the X-Men had a little basketball game and he looked like a midget out on the court. It’s an interesting character trait…and I was sad to see it done away with.
I still loved him. I still thought he was great.
Topaz: thanks for the url…now I can…um…::cough:: bookmark it. ::cough::
Good characters to add: Nightcrawler, Gambit, Havok, Psylocke, Angel, or more focus on teens already at mansion
Bad characters to add: Dazzler, Morph, Sunfire, Marrow, Cable
::gets hit in head from lettuce::
Sorry, but there are just too many plot complications to put him in.
Fun characters who shouldn’t become the core but are fun anyways: Forge, Longshot, Banshee, Beast (looks around and quickly dodges rotten fruit), Cecelia Ryes, Blink (even though she was never a member)
Good plotlines/main villan: Sentinels, Dark Phoenix Saga, Proteus, Genosha, Shadow King
Bad plotlines: anything dealing with different dimensions or timelines, the Brood, the Phalanx
Wolverine, (and how I wish you were real), let me lay it on the hollywood line for you, baby ;).
Cable may be complicated, he may be odd and a little boring and all of this time travel shit is a crazy web that no one would understand.
But he is also very…very…very sexy. He’s mysterious, kind of moody…a sort of bad boy, big strapping muscular cyborg man. Good GOD, think of what he would look like alive.
Gambit has red eyes and an annoying accent and 1987 Bon Jovi mullet hair.
And in the end…you must consider sex appeal when considering box office. The director himself said that Hugh Jackman impressed him because his screen test “oozed sex”
Wolverine is the resident brooding, mysterious bad boy with the heart of gold. Any new males would have to fill a different niche. Colossus, if grown up, is the muscular, sensitive artist. Longshot is the partying pretty boy. Angel is the rich pretty boy. Gambit is the brooding, mysterious…wait a minute. How many brooding, mysterious bad boys is a team allowed to have? I think the X-Men have already met their quota.
Your welcome jarbaby sits around listening to them talk about all the stuff… has never read any of the comics or anything but has seen the TV show a few times and absolutely loves the movie… has it at home and wishes she had DVD so she could shove the outtakes into the movie
Did anyone see the Wizard mag which had the X-men covers? It was interesting to read the stuff they had in there along with the clips about what had happened in the comics (on nearly every page). It also had a list of characters from X-men and who they thought would play them the best.
Wrong, he’s gone soft. Maybe when he first showed up on the scene he was like that but now he’s just a good guy with a tortured past. He even lets up so to not kill the enemy.
Think about it, he’s found a new love, reunited with his father, and is doing nice things now. The hatred and drive is gone. It was gradually disappearing after a couple of years. Even the necessity to kill Apocalypse is gone now. He may appear to be cold hearted but deep down he is good and loves others.
My point was that to reach the greatest audience for the movie, the sex appeal needs to cater to many different tastes. The straight and narrow All American have their place next to the partier next to the pretty boy next to the loner. Even the comic has a place. (Beast/Iceman/Jubilee ;)) If you create a team of only bad boys, then you’re cutting down potential customers. Sorry about Cyclops, but he stays. Besides, the bad boy needs the tight ass authority figure to rebel against. Without Cyclops, Wolverine would have never been as cool.
[not hijack, related to OP]Personally, I want to see more of Jubilee. She’s one of my favorite characters in the X-universe.[/not hijack, related to OP]
As far as Cyclops is concerned. I really like the guy. He might be boring but I would rather be on his team than any other X-Men. He knows how to lead and get the job done. He’s willing to do the dirty work and make the necessary sacrifices. He takes the responsibility of being an X-Men seriously. One of the things great athletes are credited with is their desire to work on their game and to compete. Cyclops does both. It ticks off a lot of his teammates but it is necessary for them to function as a team.
Plus, he’s even mellowed out in his relationship with Wolverine. They understand and respect each other. They might not be best friends but there is a foundation of trust. Who knows where they’re going with the Apocalypse blended storyline, so it’ll be interesting to see what happens when he gets back. (You know they’re bring back Cyclops.)
In the movie, Cyclops was seen smiling. A definite no-no. He carries the weight of the world on his shoulders and can’t seem to relax. He gradually learns to enjoy the little victories and becomes a more adapted member of society. However, we don’t see any of that in the movie. He just seems like a teacher’s pet.
With a lot of preaching of how to do said job thrown in. He reminds me of the Brady Bunch Dad:
“Kids…when you judge other people, you’re really just judging yourself! And that’s using bad judgement.” Especially on the X-Men cartoon…he’s so…corny for God’s sake.
Do you mean in the comic series or the movie? Of course the movies. And if anyone believes he’s dead in the comics, buddy they’re crazy.
I agree. The cartoon Cyclops in downright terrible. If I didn’t like him so much from the comics, he would have been unbearable. The show itself was rather bad in spots. The only reason I watched was because it was the X-Men.
I think the comics do a good job of showing the complexities of someone who is a prick and making him human.
::It’s time for my secret confession.::
I like Cyclops better than Wolverine though Wolverine is my second favorite X-Men. I go by the screen name Wolverine because I’m a huge fan of the University of Michigan, being a student and all.
Dr. Rieux - I don’t know whether you’re male or female, straight or gay, but…Will you marry me? Even if the gender and sexuality don’t mix, we can make it work based on such a basis of wonderful good sense!
(Especially since you’ve given me hope by mentioning that the basketball kid WASN’T supposed to be Kurt…never have I been more relieved to be wrong!)
Wolvie:
Judging from some of the more … er … interesting fanfic/fanart I’ve seen, I don’t think there’s much of her you haven’t seen. ^__~ (C’mon, man, you HAD to expect that response!)
Of course Scott’s not dead in the comics – the first rule in X-Men comics is that no one ever stays dead.
And I just wanted to add that even though I hated Cyke on the X-Men animated series on Fox, I absolutely loved movie Cyke. He’s pretty cool on “X-Men: Evolution”, too.
You know, all this talk about Cable reminds me of one of my favorite baddies, namely Deadpool. If not for all the people wondering why Spider-Man’s going around killing everybody, I think he’d be a good villain to have in the movie. Yeah, yeah, he wasn’t ever really in the X-Men continuity, but still…
Speaking of nobody staying dead in X-Men, can somebody explain how everybody came back after that “okay, everybody’s sacrificing themselves to get rid of Onslaught” fiasco?
I mean, it was a great storyline and all, but I really did not want to stick around to see what lame workaround they came up with to resurrect everybody. Hell, even Superman stayed dead for a while… :rolleyes:
Franklin Richards is the most powerful mutant in existence. So powerful in fact that he created a separate universe that his parents and their friends could live in. So, they didn’t ever die but switched realities. Marvel planned for this because they wanted to take the main characters in a new direction.
The other world was cool because it allowed the writers to take completely different take on the heroes. Sort of, updating histories and storyarcs for the 90’s. These backstories didn’t last but it was fun for a year.
The eternals, those with God-like power, were impressed with Franklin’s abilities. But one of the universes had to be destroyed. Long story and explanation but main point the heroes in the other world regained their memories from the original and came back. Like I said, this was all planned from the beginning not a later thought of oh, we should bring back the main characters.
Jarbabyj: I thought Storm’s line to Toad was funny–and perfect–because it wasn’t cliched or predictable and it was ironic. What she was saying was that she’d put him into a corner where none of his powers were any use agaginst her, and he was as vulnerable as any normal person–or toad. There was no way he could dodge that lightning bolt that was gonna come straight up his tongue. Man, I cheered for her.
Thanks Wolvie. This does sort of make sense, and it makes me regret not giving Marvel the benefit of the doubt at the time. Oh well, I guess I’ll go dig up a Cliff’s Notes for Marvel comics site…
Just bought the DVD last night… and it included the Hugh Jackman screen test.
Yup. Ooozes.
Also has some good scenes that got deleted from the original. Including one where Storm proves she can’t teach, and Halle Berry proves she can’t act. But good stuff nonetheless.
Enjoy hashfest.