That’s pretty feeble. You are the one in the wrong. Reframing others’ point of view in such an obviously dishonest way is sad. Do you honestly think such obviously dishonest tactics convince anyone?
And your use of alternative facts is also bizarre.
I’m curious. Are those dishonestly framing assault as justifiable preemptive peace keeping and self defense as aggression the same ilk that beat their wives and “touch” their goats?
I’m still curious if you would support a Republican woman hitting a Democratic man for voting considering you find it admirable that a woman hits a man for exercising his constitutional rights.
I have to ask you, why are you so personally would around the axle, over the well being of a NAZI?
Seriously. I’ve already said the LAW CAN HANDLE THIS, but you keep spouting bullshit about the NAZI’s right to ummm what-the-fuck-ever. I can NOT remember you EVER being this worked up about anyone from the “lefty commie liberal” side when they got worked over. You also seem to have fuck all to say about the more numerous and very well documented whit supremacist attacks in this country.
So I ask you directly, **why do you care so much about a NAZI? **
But ya know what? Screw you, I don’t give a fuck.
You’re missing the point dummy. I don’t like people who bully others into silence. I don’t like people who use violence to suppress fundamental rights. I don’t care how you want to demonize or dehumanize another person. That person still has rights. Your fallacious arguments are transparent and sad.
When right wing nuts start violently attacking people merely for speaking post a link and I’ll criticize them as well. At the moment it’s the left acting like thugs and hoodlums and they need to be called out on it.
Look at any Trump rally. That’s a great place to start.
Dumb ass.
And welcome to Ignore. I’m not wasting time on your sorry ass anymore.
Except the law has shown repeatedly it can’t in an unbiased manner. Let’s say you just heard a story that a person was physically assaulted because they were exercising their constitutional right to protest and the assaulter was not arrested or charged. Wouldn’t you stop and say, “Hmmmm, that doesn’t seem right.”
But now throw in the artificial filters of “women can hit men, but men shouldn’t defend themselves.” and “he’s a Nazi. Fuck Nazis.” and you have a legal system that doesn’t want to act.
BUT
If it were a black man who pushed a white woman who was protesting for more federal dollars for breast cancer research he would be in jail in a heartbeat.
You’ll notice septimus never answered my question if it is admirable for a Republican woman to push around a Democratic man for voting in a way she disagrees with … unless his silence is the answer.
This seems to fit the situation:
“The surest way to work up a crusade in favor of some good cause is to promise people they will have a chance of maltreating someone. To be able to destroy with good conscience, to be able to behave badly and call your bad behavior ‘righteous indignation’ — this is the height of psychological luxury, the most delicious of moral treats.” Aldous Huxley
I wonder if the “punch a Nazi*” morons have thought of what follows that?
*Nazi being anyone they can work up enough hatred against.
You used to be a reasonable, rational poster.
You have turned into the stupidest fucker on the internet.
Slee
I guaran-damn-tee it is.
OK, let’s have a Nazi Lives Matter march. OK?
I’m just sick of this shit.
Triggered!
So avoid the issue I raised?
What issue?
Are you that bent out of shape over my inability to feel sympathy for a Nazi scumbag?
Get used to it. As far as the law failing to deal with it, tell it to your Sheriff, or Police Chief. Not me. Knowing what the Nazis and 'alt right" stand for (the same thing), they can all drop dead tonight for all I care.
Choke on that for a while.
He doesn’t have the intellect to understand that dehumanizing a group of people and tolerance of intimidation and bullying sets a bad precedent. Hopefully, Trump doesn’t get rid of Obamacare, for many people, that’s their only hope at treating what ails them.
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No. That’s not what the left stands for. The Left stands for social justice, equality, and stuff like that.
It’s the Right that deifies freedom of speech, turning it into a value in and of itself. It’s the Right that uses “tolerance” as an excuse to allow the intolerant to do whatever they want, when tolerance is inherently intolerant of intolerance.
It’s ridiculous that you keep on defending Nazis as “people who disagree with liberals.” They aren’t. A Nazi is a dangerous person who want to hurt others. They want to destroy the basis of society itself. Nazis are, frankly, evil.
I am 100% intolerant of Nazis. They are the enemies of tolerance. To tolerate them would make me racist, since I’d have to let them do racist things. When the whole goal of tolerance is to stop racism and other forms of bigotry.
This is just an attempt by the Right to completely neuter the left by misrepresenting what the Left actually stands for.
It’s not going to happen. You got Trump in office. That’s pretty much the wakeup call liberals needed to realize that this namby-pamby love circle shit ain’t gonna do anything. We have to fight and continue to fight for the rights of the oppressed.
And not that of the oppressors.
Impartiality is not inherently a virtue. An impartial justice system that ignores the actual harm to society is not a good one.
Yes, it’s true that there is racism in our justice system, and that is an example of a bad type of partiality. But that’s because racism serves no good purpose.
I think we can all agree that stopping Nazis is a good thing. I’m not saying you have to support violence in stopping a Nazi, but we do agree they are bad. A proper justice system will inherently take this into account when weighing the harm done by the person attacking them.
I very much expect that the sentence will be lighter for these people. And I think that’s okay. There is something worse about about attacking an innocent person rather than attacking a Nazi. And there is something far more worse in attacking a minority for being a minority.
So, yeah. Let the law handle it. I’m not going to get morally invested in this, like I would if this were some great injustice. Guy is horrible, and inspired someone to risk the punishment of the law to be horrible to him.
The law will do a good enough job. I will continue to not violently harm Nazis (or anyone else) and go about my life. I just can’t really care. I can spare a moment of sympathy for the guy and for the attackers. But then I’m done.
Look again at the video bobot linked up in post #27. The guy with the white pride flag was calling the antifas to come and get him. He was asking for a confrontation. Which is to say, she was not pushing and punching him without his permission. He said, “hey, over here, come and get me”, which totally negates your argument, because he himself incited the violence against him.
So, if men provoke women while going to vote and incite violence against themselves, as this guy did, then they deserve to be attacked. If they simply walking into a polling place to vote, that is absolutely a different animal.
So it’s OK to assault people who are exercising their constitutional rights as long as their view is unpopular? I must have missed that in my Civics class.