We know why he was banned. The discussion is whether it was fair or not.
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Chefguy, conversely, I am a fairly creative gal myself, and I can cook my ass of and make money for it, and yet…rarely do I go into coniptions and damn people to hell for using margarine. Maybe I’m the only one who sees a difference, but oh well.
Next time I call someone a dope and stupid, and tell them they aren’t worth my time, I’ll be sure to blame it on my creativity.
There has been some discussion of this in the past. However, the problem we always run in to is that if we keep a public record of bannings, there are jerks out there who will make it their life goal to appear upon that list as often as possible. What starts out as a public service for the posters quickly turns into a billboard for trolls.
It seems to me that if you truly wished to avoid that, you wouldn’t put “BANNED” under their names and would merely suspend their posting privileges. Then they don’t get the supposed notoriety. Otherwise, the label that serves precisely as that billboard for trolls.
Well, something on the Dope finally made me cry.
I’m not kidding. My interaction with Zenster was always pleasent and I will dearly miss him.
I’ve calmed down somewhat since last night, I think - but I’m still really confused as to why Zenster was banned.
Let’s assume we don’t wish death on other posters because there is a MINIMAL chance that we could find out their home address and use a rifle to take them out of the world. I can’t comprehend that even those to agree to his banning think he’d do something of that nature. So, it is that the language in his posts would encourage others to commit acts of violence? I don’t see it, y’all.
Hon, my comment was intended to be ironic/cynical. Sorry that one went over your head.
Blonde, as was said earlier he had been warned about his behavior. When you’ve been warned repeatedly, it doesn’t take a huge, massive flouting of the rules to get kicked off. Isn’t it sufficient to know that there was a buildup leading to this conclusion and that the decision was not made on a single incident?
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Collounsbury perfected this unseemly tactic. Hoping against hope for his enlightenment, the mods magnanimously restored his priviliges and then, after maybe 72 hours of model behavior, Coll’s dark side emerged and he resumed his snotty, shitty, sadistic rhetorical bombthrowing and took great delight in rubbing the moderators’ noses in it and dancing on the line. What sickened me, however, were the suckups on the Board who sided with their intellectual hero, all the while excusing his pathetic behavior. Banned? Good riddance, jerkwad. [/RANT]
I’ll miss the Zenster who was generous, urbane, and funny. But the moderators have a hell of a balancing act to do and they do it incredibly well without any compensation. Long ago, they drew a clear line in the sand and Zenster repeatedly tested the limits, thinking himself exempt, immune, or both. He went too far this time and got zapped for it. No worry, however, the mods will forgive him and he will be back. Frankly, a good cooling off period will probably do him some good.
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*Originally posted by Carnac the Magnificent! *
Correction: No worry, however, [I’m guessing** the mods will probablyforgive him and he will be back. Frankly, a good cooling off period will probably do him some good.
Babe, I doubt you could hit my ankles, let alone lob one over my head. Permit me to quote myself “O irony, thy name is Blonde”. Notice the word “irony”? Whaddaya think it’s referring to?
Thus, we can agree that I got it. EVERYONE got it. It wasn’t what you would call subtle humor and I was commenting that I didn’t think it very clever, but considering the source, perhaps I could rethink my opinion. The ol’ “dancing bear” theory* may apply.
Fenris
*“It ain’t how well the bear dances, it’s that she dances at all”
I understand that, dantheman, and I respect your opinion, as I’ve always enjoyed your posts. However, I just don’t understand why his behavior qualifies for banning. His posts wherein he “wished violence” upon someone were usually aimed at high-visibility criminals in our society that most of us wouldn’t shed a tear over given their demise. Obviously, I’m re-thinking my desire to be a member of this board; I’m sure most of y’all could give a flying fuck, but I’ll keep in touch with those whom I consider friends. And Zen will be one of those.
I’ve only recently noticed Zenster, particularly on one thread on homosexuality, where he was polite and supportive and pretty humourous. I don’t disagree with the mods’ decision; there had been several warnings. But if Zenster is reading this (I know I would be if I were him), I’d just like to say I’m sorry to see you gone, hope to see you around sometime in the future perhaps.
Wishing violence on someone is fine, as long as that someone doesn’t also post here.
No, I forget who it was but not you. The poster I’m thinking of was banned, and then came back and said something to the effect of having experienced being banned. Somebody else posted a question of why this person is allowed to post if he or she was banned, and the response was that they had been reinstated. Yet I still saw BANNED under their username so maybe they were rebanned.
I just wanted to know if the BANNED label goes away when one is allowed to return.
My only question is: why the hell hasn’t county been banned, or even warned (that I can find) for the post which led indirectly to the straw which broke Zenster’s back:
(my apologies if he has been warned, but junk-addicted hamsters weren’t up to the task of finding the warning)
Yes, it does.
I’ll miss him too, I hope he’ll cool off a bit and be able to come back soon.
I always liked the guy.
Well, I wish you wouldn’t rethink it. Why not rethink it in a few days and see if you feel the same then?
Perhaps you don’t understand why his behavior qualified for a banning because you didn’t see his behavior throughout his tenure here. They ban because of an ongoing pattern, not just one post or even three. (An exception is when the person is an obvious sock or troll or who exhibits such awful behavior immediately after registering.)
There are people here who feel that others have been just as jerkish as Zenster was, and they wonder why those people are still around. I think that’s a fair question; to make things easier on the powers that be, we should employ the Report This Post function whenever we see someone behaving in that manner.
aryk29, yes - the label is changed back to Member, from what I’ve noticed. Perhaps you saw it before it was changed, that’s all. The label and the posting privileges are probably separate functions in the software.