Zenster banned? What's all this then?

The above quotes pretty much sum up exactly how this situation appears to me.

I’ll chew on that, dantheman - yes, I’m pretty new to the SDMB, and haven’t seen all of his posts. So, you have a valid point. Even if I agree that he stepped over the line in this board (unlikely that I’ll do so), I believe that his contributions will be missed.

What I hope doesn’t happen is that people, feeling a solidarity with what happened to Zenster, leave the board.

I only know him through here, e-mails, IM and a phone conversation, but I cannot believe he would want anyone to do this.

We are a “community” and I have really gotten used to being a member of it. Don’t deprive the rest of us of your intellectual and social presence, please.

I truly hope that with a little time and healing he can come back.

Thanks

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Please show me evidence that you know everything that went on behind the scenes, past and present. If you can’t then you are merely talking out of your hairy asshole and your opinion means squat.

I am asking because if the SDMB “censors” :::snort::: make it so miserable for you, why don’t you leave?

[Jack Black]Fuck you, you fucking fuck aaaaaaaaaaass!!![/Jack Black]

Just a little tip for ya, Blonde. Shut your yap until you are less confused and more educated on the facts. M’Kay? You’ll look less stupid. Trust me.

Do you really know all the details or just the limited information you got from reading a thread or two?

No, but it does make me wonder why someone would stick around a place that makes them so miserable.

I would pay big money to have that rule passed! The rules are there, we don’t need debates or discussion about the things that will or will not get you banned.

Why is it so hard for some people to comprehend that if they want to ban someone for not dotting an “i” or crossing a “t”, the can do it. The rules aren’t the fucking Constitutional.

It’s been a while since I told ya Fen, but I love ya!

Please show me where Blonde claimed to know everything that went on behind the scenes. Please get your facts straight before you shoot your mouth off.

. . . .or something like that. I was typing fast.

Exactly. You don’t know everything that led up to his banning. So, do you still think the Mods are unfair censors?

Go back and read, Snookums. You would think all the time you spend here you would have learned to pay better attention. She may not have said it directly, but she certainly implies that she has an understanding behind the banning –

and here –

and here –

and here –

So again, she may not have specifically stated “I know what went on behind the scenes”, but she certainly believed she new enough to be outraged over the “unfair” banning.

Diane, could you please show on your quotes who th’ heck you’re quoting as you rip into them? It makes the reading so much easier.

That’s a far cry from claiming to know everything behind the scenes. I’ll agree it was somewhat naive of her to believe that everything goes on in public view, but that’s not a crime.

Diane - you’re obviously targeting me as your punching bag for the night – I suggest you fuck off and grow up.

Oh, and I had absolutely NO knowledge that Zenster would be banned - that’s a really idiotic statement, bitch. It won’t be your last, I suspect.

I don’t know what thread that was, but he could pound his fists on his chest all he wants and I’ll never believe that he’s as thoughtful of homosexuals as he claims. Nor is he one to back down and apologize when he’s shown to be wrong and/or offends or hurts someone, including fellow posters here. Witness this meltdown:

First of all, I have no idea what the hell he was talking about with regard to hijacking “another one” of his threads, as I very rarely ever posted in one of them. And until just now, that’s all I’d read of that particular thread until I searched for it to reference here. Now I find this gem:

What the flying fuck was that thickass prick talking about? I can’t recall EVER having any kind of confrontation with him, as I tended to avoid his egofests at all costs. But now I’m a hypocrite for not bothering to continue to read a thread by a fuckstick who called me a petty little shit and told me to piss off?

And worse yet, I see that Esprix tried to express how much the use of that term is hurtful to him and Zenster basically said in reply, [paraphrase] “too bad, I don’t see it that way and I’ll continue to use it in the way I see it, regardless of how it makes you feel.”

Esprix responded with: "Well, Zenster, you did use the phrase in relation to a guy, so even if in general you don’t think of it that way, you sure used it that way in this context.

Again, I hope you see the hard feelings it can cause to people you don’t mean to cause hard feelings to."

And Zenster, being the big, kind-hearted man that he is, never bothered to respond and let his own thread sink like a stone.

He may be the nicest man on the planet to animals, but he could be downright cruel to human beings. For that, I found him vile and entirely unlikeable. I’m glad he’s gone and I pray he’s never, ever allowed back.

Please folks, we’re getting off track.

I don’t know how to say this, but I feel guilty for not saying it.

I found Zenster to be compassionate, and generous. On several occasions, he has offered me help in e-mails-acts of generosity perfomed privately without expectation of reward.

And, IMHO, anybody who makes cubed eggs with caper pips for a backgammon party has a right to be snobby when it comes to cooking.

I’m not sure that that is quite the conclusion to which I’d might arrive.

There’s something that we might be forgetting here. Please indulge me for a moment.

Take a look at the comments in this thread. There are positive impressions of Zenster, and there are negative impressions. But one thing that strikes me is that more than a few people who’ve spoken in here didn’t necessarily have direct interaction with him. That is, their impressions of Zenster came about from their reading of his posts, rather than through fighting with him or being on the receiving end of excellent culinary advice.

And that kind of underlines something most people forget. Everything we say on here, from the most innocuous flirty remark to the most serious comment on religion, is seen by countless eyes whose owners form myriad impressions. Whenever someone is kicked off, it should serve as a reminder to all of us that it is far better to post thoughtfully and helpfully than to post recklessly and angrily.

If we choose the latter method of posting, we ourselves could be the ones about whom bad things are said when we’re not around; when we are gone, will people bemoan our absence or shout good riddance?

Now, some of you may say that you don’t care what other people think of you. I say that’s hogwash, with all due respect. We’re all human beings here, and we appreciate praise as much as we disdain scorn. You can’t tell me you don’t prefer the former over the latter.

I guess what I’m trying to say through all this rambling is that making a positive impression on here is important, unless you care nothing for your fellow posters and believe them to be nothing more than automatons. If you honestly feel this way, then if and when you ever shuffle off the mortal coil of this message board, you won’t mind a whit if people badmouth you.

I, for one, would mind it greatly. I don’t like anyone having a low opinion of me, and so I work as hard as I can to make a positive impression on whoever reads my posts.

Y’know, we don’t always see eye-to-eye, dantheman, but damned if that isn’t about the wisest thing I’ve seen posted here in a while. :slight_smile:

Dantheman - insightful comments. I think I haven’t been reckless in my postings, for the most part - but I simply feel there are is so much more offensive crap on this board than anything he posted. Can we really say Zen didn’t make a postive impression at some time?

Ukulele Ike - please don’t leave us in suspense - what conclusion would you come to?

Diane, you are a the bitchiest, nastiest excuse for a person I have ever encountered on this messageboard. May I suggest you put the Vodka down and stop posting when you are pissed? Oh, and as IceWolf said, can you at least make an attempt, however feeble, to nominate the original poster when you are haranguing them? It WOULD make life just so much easier for the rest of us.

Thanks sweetie. :rolleyes:

Ladies and gentlemen, the State rests. :smiley:

Blonde:

Good God you dumbshit, no one said you had knowledge that he would be banned. It was pointed out to you that you don’t know all of the reasons behind his banning.

There is a difference between the two, trust me.

Kambuckta:

Don’t mention it.