It’s obvious that plenty of people DO think it’s okay, Bricker.
I don’t see a whole lot of pro-Zimmerman people saying he should have been convicted of manslaughter. Almost all of them seem to be of the mind that what he did was perfectly okay. This is not my imagination. These kinds of comments are rife here and elsewhere. So “People think it’s okay” is more than reasonable.
Once again, I see you being one-sided with your sanctimoniousness. Please direct your ire towards all the folks who are jumping up and down with glee that a virtuous, upstanding citizen got away with killing another feral proto-human. If the meaning of a “not guilty” verdict has flown over brickbacon’s head, he sure has a lot of company.
I don’t see anyone here being gleeful. Undoubtedly I may have missed such a thread or comment.
All the discussion from pro-Zimmerman folks has seemed to me to focus on the legal question of what he did being LEGAL. Point me towards someone on this board who actually says Zimmerman did a good, wise, or just okay thing.
What’s new? I could say the moon is round and the sky is blue and you’d still sit there smugly and disagree with me.
The shit is this: I give you an example and you will dismiss it as an one-time anomaly. Or you will tell me, ever so arrogantly, that I have misunderstood Lonesome or whomever. Or, you will say that you’d agree with me, if my tone weren’t so shrill or hysterical. And on and on it goes…until I just say fuck it and give up.
I don’t got time for that shit, like I said. The sun is shining too brightly for me to let you get under my skin.
A person walking down the street minding their own business, sure. And I’m not saying Trayvon Martin wasn’t doing that very thing.
and your premise is way too broad; if I were to shoot and kill an unarmed intruder inside my home at 2:00 AM, I can guarantee you that I won’t be subjected ot the level of scrutiny that MZ has undergone.
If I were to shoot and kill an unarmed person in my home at 2:00 AM, and that person turne dout to be my soon-to-be-exwife, then yes, I would expect that level of scrutiny upon me as the shooter/killer.
But there is evidence that TM encountered/confronted MZ, not the other way around.
What if TM had, upon noticing MZ following him, just walked home (where he was heading anyway) and called the police to report a suspicious person following him?
If you believe that MZ stopped/confronted/engaged TM before TM could get safely home, the question is moot: GZ is at best a weak, wannabe hero, and at worst a racist, bloodthirsty killer who stalked and killed an innocent boy.
If you think there’s some evidence (and there is) the TM turned around/circled back upon GZ to confront him, the question stands.
Thank God your not invested, unemotional self could provide us with one counter example. Because otherwise, how would we possibly have realized what happens a majority of the time? Oh wait.
Trayvon Martin also had the right to fight back against some stranger that he feared attacking him for no reason. It’s mind-boggling to see that people feel it’s okay to be threatening to others without any retaliation.
Probably because it happens all the time? If he did, he’d probably never get back out of his house.
Then, as the last person linked to, hie thy self to the current pit thread. There’s at least two posters there that should change that opinion, but who knows. Maybe they’re misunderstood or solely standing on legal principles too.
Because that case never blew up, precisely because it wasn’t a civil rights issue–and neither was the Martin case.
The Martin case had to be manipulated and lied about in order to make it even remotely connected to civil rights.
I didn’t seem to notice any white folks screaming on any of the news channels for White to be called up on federal charges of violating the idiot teenager’s civil rights.
Lookit–it’s just like O’Meara said last night: the disproportionate amount of blacks in prison is a conversation we need to have. Civil rights is a conversation we need to have. There is plenty of racism in this country (I bowed out of my Zimmerman Trial pit thread because I just couldn’t stomach the outright racism of one poster in particular.)
But to superimpose that over this case is…well, worthy of a Robert Downy Jr. “Tropic Thunder” meme. This was a self-defense case, pure and simple. People screwed up by making it a “cause.”
You are finally right about one thing; it was a simple self-defense case. What you’re continually wrong about is who. The only one defending their self was Trayvon.
Ex tank, you ask why didnt Trayvon go home? Did you realize that would be counter to what is standard safety advice? If you are being followed, you would be told NOT to go home, can you think why this would be?
Why do we even need to ask the question “What if Martin had just gone home?”? We already know the answer to that one: The answer is that, before he got there, an armed guy who had been following him for no reason would have gotten out of his car and confronted him, leading to his eventual death. Why the question?
This is such common knowledge, Im surprised some either dont know it…I heard that several times growing up. You can see for example on the Palm Beach p.d. website, on a page for crime prevention, it is so important that this one item is capitalized and bolded," if you think youre being followed DONT GO HOME."…I wonder why?