It occurs to me that the best way to handle a handshake rapist who’s threatening you by holding out his hand is to simply pull up your petticoats and spray him with your woman-sperm. That’ll larn him.
Look, ZPG is obviously a loon, but she’s answered the “forcing” question already. Society says that declining a handshake is a faux pas, therefore you’re “forced” to shake if someone extends their hand to you.
Now, how that’s different from being forced to say “hello” to somebody that’s greeted you…
I’m sure your imaginary friends agree with you quite often.
My personal etiquette is that I like to spray my urine over women in greeting (like a tomcat) rather than shake their hands. It more properly identifies them as my submissive property me being part of the patriarchal smug white male culture. Since you believe in respecting everyone’s differences, you respect my differences, my culture right? You wouldn’t impose your whim-like objections on me, would you?
I claim their Firstborn.
No, society has a perfectly cromulent solution for not shaking hands when one is offered. “I mean you no offense, but I don’t shake hands.”
And, as we went over and over in the first thread about this, any person who doesn’t accept that with grace *is *a jerk. But that’s not most people, and being a jerk doesn’t mean you’re a rapist, either.
She might actually be onto something; think about it - hands, clapping, the clap…I’ll leave you to draw your own conclusions.
No real reason? If you would just realize that your opinion is not shared by anyone else I would have no problem with it. You are a loon. There is a place in this world for loons I guess. But you do realize that the handshake has been the accepted greeting between equals in this culture for longer than can be accurately pinpointed. And it has spread to other cultures to. There is a reason. Its the culturally accepted greeting. Thats the reason. Any problem you have with that is in your head only.
And for the record I have never seen or heard of any man shaking hands with a prostitute. Unless you are kinky that way.
Exactly. I just couldn’t believe that whoever it was (Lute Skywatcher?) picked that to bitch about. OTOH, I’ve seen the same sort of thing in other threads, so I guess I shouldn’t have been surprised. Pick some inane piece of a post out and complain about it or willfully misinterpret it. Is this the fun you speak of?
Yes, this is true. She believes that adopted people owe it to society to make their adoptive status public, so that people who don’t wish to interact with bastards will know to steer clear.
You know, I’m all for multiculturalism, but her attitude really kind of shows the limits of it. If you are of a culture that cannot mix with the wider culture due to the fact that your culture’s mores are incompatible with the accepted behavior of everyone else, then it’s up to you to live within that subgroup and avoid everyone else if you don’t want to be offended. Trying to change the culture you’re trying to live in rather than adapting to it is tilting at windmills, and not worth your energy or time.
I actually don’t think it’s that wild of an interpretation, but knowing all of **ZPG’s ** posting history may have something to do with why one’s mind might go there.
ROTFLMAO :D:D:D:D:D
Actually, I have been raped twice, and both times the men were very disrespectful when I met them [both were essentially date rape] and acted off but not so off that it really worried me. They didn’t offer to shake my hand [it was a fairly casual study group situation in college] and treated me like I was not worth the effort to be polite to.
All the men who were polite, and offered me their hand, or stood up when I walked into the room were perfect gentlemen.
I resent being told that I am firstly a whore, and that I need to treat all men like possible rapists. I look at being offered a handshake as acknowledgment of my equal status in their eyes.
I also have worked long and hard at my professions and am proud of my education.
Whenever a man offers a handshake I just cut to the chase and mace him.
And when she says mace, she means mace.
And as the old song goes"
I call bullshit on the culture issue. I simply do not believe that there is a entire culture that believes the shit she spews. I believe that while she may be from a different culture, her personal views expressed here are not of that culture, but of her own whackjobness.
But at this point, the simplest explanation is that she’s a lying-ass troll. Nobody could possibly have managed to create a life in this society with her opinions.
Sure. These ladies are a vanishing breed IME.
I give as firm a grip as I’m able to without hurting the other person. I’ve had my hand grabbed awkwardly or pinched every now and then, but most professional people I meet these days give a medium-firm handshake, both men and women.
Let’s hope she never attends a Catholic Mass. All the male parishiners are rapists!!!
I wonder what happens if a woman falls down – is it considered “abusive” if a man offers you his hand to help you up?
Oh dear. And for a while, I went to mass every day. (That was always my favorite part of the mass, too. God turned me into a whore.)
No shit.
I didn’t say it was a good reason, but people keep asking for a reason when one was given. You’re looking for logic from that piece of work?