Finding Nemo turning kids on to lesbianism

[jeevmon]

So, apparently Disney and Pixar are catching some flak for casting Ellen DeGeneres in a voice role in the new film "Finding Nemo."

http://www.crosswalk.com/news/weblog...=5%2F14%2F2003

Because we all know that if a child hears a lesbian's voice, he or she will want to be homosexual.

[Olentzero]

If it's wet like a fish and smells like a fish...

hides under the floorboards

[iampunha]

Wow, that sure looks like even-handed, intelligent reasoning to me. No sign of assumptions the size of mountains or "Disney ought to be the way I want it because I'm an American so I own Disney"-type thought.

People like that guy give Christians who can think a bad name.

[Loneraven]

That is such complete and utter bullshit that I am reduced to incoherence:

... ... ... ...

[Scylla]

My daughter and I will still go tomorrow.

Somehow I hope she'll be able to get past this exposure. I can't shield her forever.

[Jonathan Chance]

Sunday for us. And I'm bringing a 3-year old girl.

AND MY WIFE!!!

I'm living on the edge here!

[Tars Tarkas]

So that was Ross from Friends's big mistake!

[TaxGuy]

That same site also contains an article that starts like this:

Commentary: The Burden of Marriage
Ken Connor
President, Family Research Council


Married couples file fewer than half of all tax returns, but they pay 74 percent of all taxes. While the tax cut bill President Bush signed yesterday offers some relief for families by reducing the marriage penalty and increasing the per-child tax credit, married couples still bear a disproportionate share of the tax burden.

Absolutely as fucking stupid as fucking stupid can get.

[Amp]

Originally posted by jeevmon
Because we all know that if a child hears a lesbian's voice, he or she will want to be homosexual.

That's why I had to stop watching Will and Grace. They almost turned me into one of them thar homer-sexuals.

[RexDart]

Originally posted by TaxGuy
That same site also contains an article that starts like this:
<snip>
Absolutely as fucking stupid as fucking stupid can get.

And the award for most pointless non sequitur of the week goes to.....TaxGuy! Congratulations!

...Anyways, on topic, Roger Ebert described the character as a bit of a scatterbrain, so it's not like the lesbian is using her lesbian superpowers to save the planet or anything that would make lesbianism more alluring. And a young kid seeing this movie possibly wasn't even alive when Ellen's pathetic excuse for a TV show finally went off the air, and certainly was as unaware of it as everybody else was who never watches CBS. And this movie actually features a single father who's the hero, nice positive stuff there.

When Disney has an actual gay or lesbian character in a movie, then the country is ready for this debate (a pointless debate, since Disney is a private company who can do whatever the hell they want in their movies.)

[Diogenes the Cynic]

All a kid is going to see is the talking fish anyway, it's not like they know or care who the voice-actors are. This is some really stupid shit.

[El_Kabong]

I have a feeling someone is going to pop up with some sort of joke about what a lesbian fish tastes like, but I want to assure you it won't be me.

*ahem*

Er, actually this isn't the first time DeGeneres has worked for Disney. Her real live, alternative lifestyle self appeared in a film about dinosaurs shown in one of the EPCOT exhibits that I visited a couple of years ago. Danged if I remember any outraged parents, or their children, shrieking and running out of the auditorium at the sight of her.

[Larry Mudd]

RexDart: And the award for most pointless non sequitur of the week goes to.....TaxGuy! Congratulations!

Huh? How is that a non sequitur?

It's a further example of editorial decisions made by the administrators of Crosswalk reflecting a totally insane, bereft-of-logic point of view.

"Married couples file fewer than half of all tax returns, but they pay 74 percent of all taxes." This represents a disproportionate tax burden? Last time I checked, most married couples had two incomes. They are suggesting that married couples should only have to pay as much tax as a single person, divorcing the concept of income tax from income. How stupid can they be?

It is totally related to the ignorant attitude expressed in the article linked in the OP. Or do you think that they believe gay couples should get a 50% tax-cut, too?

[The Hamster King]

Originally posted by Diogenes the Cynic
All a kid is going to see is the talking fish anyway, it's not like they know or care who the voice-actors are. This is some really stupid shit.

Damn, I was hoping for some hot girl fish/girl fish action ... .

Guess I have to go see the Italian Job instead. I wonder what it's about? It sure *sounds* dirty ... .

[Priam]

Five more recruits and I get a toaster. I wonder what Ellen's going to get with all those points accrued seducing children to the Lavender Side (dark is sooooooo 15 minutes ago).

[Doomtrain]

Wow, gays and lesbians get superpowers AND a toaster? I'm ready to convert now!

Wait, do I get to pick which one...?

[Priam]

Originally posted by GMRyujin
Wow, gays and lesbians get superpowers AND a toaster? I'm ready to convert now!

Wait, do I get to pick which one...?

We get a wide range of items available in the Sodom and Gommorah catalogue, from designer underwear up to small island nations.

As for the second part, I'm afraid the only way to work that is if you also convert to the transgender lifestyle.

[Larry Mudd]

From the link:

The House of Mouse -- in conjunction with Pixar Studios -- is releasing its latest animated feature for children...and Ellen DeGeneres is, apparently, the only female they could find to voice one of the main characters. Clearly, the Pixar/Disney folks just assume that Ellen is a perfect casting choice, and only those in the hate-mongering religious right would have any issues with the selection.
This raises two very important questions: 1) Huh? 2) Wha...?

I'm not sure, but I think this might be one of those "Many a true word spoken in jest" kinda situations.

[TeaElle]

Originally posted by Priam
Five more recruits and I get a toaster. I wonder what Ellen's going to get with all those points accrued seducing children to the Lavender Side (dark is sooooooo 15 minutes ago).

You're just working up to toaster?

I'm not even gay and my next recruit will earn me the Jeep. Geez, get with the picture, Priam!

... tlw walks off rubbing her hands and thinking "Hmm, a Disney film. Seems innocuous, but if the very sound of Ellen's voice can turn someone, I know exactly how I can work this to my advantage. Jeep, you will be mine!

[Shirley Ujest]

lesbian superpowers

Lesbian Powers Activate!

Take the form of a Dildo!

[TaxGuy]

Could you describe what one of those "kinds of situations" is like Mr. Mudd? I don't know what you mean.

The problem I have with the story is that they think Disney casted a lesbian on purpose just to piss off the religious right. The POV in the article not-so-subtly implies that everything that is done to piss off the religious right was intentionally done to do so, which is BS.

[jeevmon]

Originally posted by Larry Mudd
I'm not sure, but I think this might be one of those "Many a true word spoken in jest" kinda situations.

Um, except for the part immediately after:

Although Ellen might be a sweet person (I have no idea) and a good choice for the role (whatever), we're once again reminded just how far removed most of us are from the cultural epicenter of America. With literally hundreds and hundreds of perfectly viable options, Disney goes with someone whose personal lifestyle is antithetical to the throngs of families who are supposed to eagerly flock to the theaters on May 30th. This is what we in the Internet business call "a disconnect".

Needless to say, Mickey needs to get a clue. Is it possible that Goofy is now running the show over there at Disney? I've always wondered about him.

That and the fact that the site linked is a Christian site leads me to believe that this is for real. And that he's saying that Disney should have found a non-homosexual for a speaking part in an animated film. Or rather, that because the film is a family film, it is preferred to have no homosexuals in the cast.

[Priam]

I think Larry's point was in the following:

"Clearly, the Pixar/Disney folks just assume that Ellen is a perfect casting choice, and only those in the hate-mongering religious right would have any issues with the selection."

The grain of truth there is that apparently only those hate-mongering religious right folks seem to have any issues with Ellen's casting.

[jeevmon]

Originally posted by Priam
I think Larry's point was in the following:

"Clearly, the Pixar/Disney folks just assume that Ellen is a perfect casting choice, and only those in the hate-mongering religious right would have any issues with the selection."

The grain of truth there is that apparently only those hate-mongering religious right folks seem to have any issues with Ellen's casting.

I'd characterize that as [sarcasm] rather than [jest] as such.

[Larry Mudd]

Taxguy and jeevmon, you misunderstand me. When the author of the article says that "Ellen is a perfect casting choice, and only those in the hate-mongering religious right would have any issues with the selection", he is being sarcastic. Of course, as is plain to anyone whose mental faculties are not occluded by irrational prejudices, that sentence is the simple, unadorned truth. Obviously, he does not intend it to be taken at face value.

Hence, although he intends to elicit a chuckle with his 'clever' phraseology, he has inadvertantly uttered a truism. True words spoken in jest.

Sorry, I that was clear.

..previews..

Never mind.

[Larry Mudd]

Please insert this:

thought

where it seems appropriate above.

That's what I get for 'previewing' and not actually reading my post.

[iampunha]

I think we may well go to that movie just to piss that guy off. Maybe bring one of B's nieces, too. Can't start the conversion process too early, now...

[ivylass]

Because of course, you can tell someone is gay by just their voice, you know.



I'm waiting for a couple of weeks for the crowd to thin out before we go. My next movie is Bruce Almighty. We just saw X-Men 2 last week.

[Chimera]

[sarcasm]

Hey, how many single men worked on this film? Because as I was angrily told by a -former- friend, single men know nothing about children. Thus, one can conclude that single men should not be allowed to work on family films!

[/sarcasm]

[TaxGuy]

Cool, I can dig it, Larry. I've just never heard that saying before (maybe it's a Canadian thang).

[NDP]

Re: Finding Nemo turning kids on to lesbianism

Because we all know that if a child hears a lesbian's voice, he or she will want to be homosexual.

That's why I had to stop watching Will and Grace. They almost turned me into one of them thar homer-sexuals.

Hey! Why do people doubt that simply watching a cartoon character voiced by a lesbian comedian or a TV show will with homosexual characters will cause them to go homosexual? After all, Spiderman makes you gay.

[rjung]

Wow, Finding Nemo's pissin' off the radical Christian right? I'm definitely gonna see it this weekend!

(Of course, I was planning to anyway, but pissing off the rCr is just a bonus )

[Larry Mudd]

I just wanted to make it clear that when I said (or rather meant to say) "Sorry, I thought that was clear," I wasn't being sarcastic. Reviewing, I realize that it could easily be taken that way.

It's obvious to me that since two intelligent people took it to mean that I thought the article was a joke of some sort, further that I thought that it had some truth to it, I wasn't being clear at all. Far from it!

Carry on.

Oh, while I'm here--

I'd characterize that as [sarcasm] rather than [jest] as such.

Sarcasm is a subset of jest, although it's arguably the lowest form, as the saying goes.

And allow me to add my voice to the chorus of those looking around for a kid to take to see this movie now. And I usually harbour a grudge against Disney. Ironically, because of the way they tend to homogenize every classic story they get their grubby mitts on.

[Captain Amazing]

Originally posted by ivylass
We just saw X-Men 2 last week.

My God! Don't you know about Ian McKellan? You're playing with fire, missy, playing with fire!

[gobear]

Originally posted by Captain Amazing
My God! Don't you know about Ian McKellan? You're playing with fire, missy, playing with fire!

And don't forget Alan Cumming, also one of the Lavender Lads (although he's blue in the movie--those cunning homosexuals!)

Gee, and right-wing Christians wonder why everyone else think they're small-minded bigots.

[istara]

For more wacky fundie film-bashing fun, try: http://christiananswers.net/spotlight/home.html

About the only thing considered acceptable is Swiss Family Robinson. It has all sorts of wondrous moans and gripes about different films, from the unBiblical Chinese belief system in Mulan, the Gospel singers in Hercules, and the "lust" portrayed in the Hunchback of Notre Dame.

The site also mentions:

Note: Disney releases are currently being boycotted by many Christians because of their company's pro-homosexual policies.

[Netbrian]

My god. That site has a design that brings tears to my eyes.

[Larry Mudd]

It's nice to remember that not all Christians, (and not even all right-wing Christians,) are stamped from the same mould.

Would that they were all as grounded as Dr. Ted Baehr, who writes an entertainment column for Christian News Today.

What he has to say about Finding Nemo:

Marlin determines [to] overcome his fear of the deep and to find Nemo. He is helped by a fish with a short term memory loss, named Dory, voiced by comedienne Ellen DeGeneres. [...] CONTENT: (BBB, C, L, V) Very strong moral worldview with particularly strong father elements and redemptive elements; the little fish pronounce the word “boat” as “butt” several times; barracuda kills mother and fish eggs off screen, frightening sea creatures such as sharks and barracuda, exciting escapes, frightening humans, and animated action violence; no sex; no nudity; and, nothing else objectionable.

In another article, he writes:

I asked [Pixar writer Andrew Stanton] why each one of his movies had a strong redemptive element. FINDING NEMO even has a leap of faith in the belly of a whale reminiscent of the biblical story. Andrew said, “I’m a Christian, and so are most of us.”

It sure would be nice if real Christians were as prominent and vociferous as the Fred Phelps flavour of hypocrite & Pharisee.

[Terrifel]

I find it strangely appropriate that the site linked to in the OP is apparently a division of the "Salem Communications Corporation."

A subsidiary of "Malleus Malleficarium, Inc.," no doubt.

[DeadJesus]

And don't forget Alan Cumming, also one of the Lavender Lads (although he's blue in the movie--those cunning homosexuals!)

Not only Sir Ian and Alan, X2's director Bryan Singer is also gay.

I'm going to see Finding Nemo tomorrow with my younger brother. He has a friend who interned at Pixar Studios and did some work on the film, so in addition to the great animation, we want to see if he got any credit.

[Odesio]

Originally posted by jeevmon
So, apparently Disney and Pixar are catching some flak for casting Ellen DeGeneres in a voice role in the new film "Finding Nemo."

I'm confused over how anyone could think Ellen DeGeneres could turn anybody on to anything.

Marc

[Guinastasia]

Oh man...that Spiderman thing was classic! BWAHAHAHAH!!!

I wonder if these folks read the King James Bible-and if so, if they realize they're reading a book authored by a bisexual!

[norinew]

Originally posted by Chimera
[sarcasm]

Hey, how many single men worked on this film? Because as I was angrily told by a -former- friend, single men know nothing about children. Thus, one can conclude that single men should not be allowed to work on family films!

[/sarcasm]

[sarcasm continues] And married women shouldn't work on the film, either, because married women belong at home, taking care of the house and the children and baking bread. Obviously Jews shouldn't work on the film, because we know they don't have good Christian values! So, all you heterosexual Christian males better learn to work on movies damned quick, else there won't be anything left fit to take our kids to!![/sarcasm continues]

Will be taking my girls, including my 3 year old to see it Wednesday. Or, at least I was, until this link pointed out the dangers involved!

[Baker]

Originally posted by Guinastasia

I wonder if these folks read the King James Bible-and if so, if they realize they're reading a book authored by a bisexual!

Can I be a bit nitpicky here? James I(James VI of Scotland) did not "author" the translation of the Bible that carries his name. As I'm sure you know Guin, teams of scholars did the translating. They weren't the authors either. Jimmy Stuart just lent his name and imprimatur to the whole endeavor!

[SparrowHawk]

Oh goodness me! I am about to leave this very minute and take my darling, impressionable Hawklette and her very best girlfriend to see this movie!! Good thing I found out before I made this terrible mistake!!! Perhaps it is already too late!!!!

I'll let ya know if we like it.

(C'mon, Guin, sponsored by, not authored by. You know that.)

[presidebt]

Originally posted by Larry Mudd
Obviously, he does not intend it to be taken at face value.

Hence, although he intends to elicit a chuckle with his 'clever' phraseology, he has inadvertantly uttered a truism.

A technique he apparently likes, judging from the next full paragraph down:

...we're once again reminded just how far removed most of us are from the cultural epicenter of America.

[Guinastasia]

Actually, I didn't know that. Thank you for correcting me.

Some of the reviews though, by individuals are pretty good. Like the ones for Boys Don't Cry-most of them said it was a good, yet very sad and tragic film.

[Esprix]

Because you know, the Christian Right is all about treating homosexuals fairly - you know, love the sinner, hate the sin, right?

Oh, except we can't give them jobs (even if they're famous and funny and right for the role we give them), because then they're just promoting their lifestyle.

Yeah, that's fair. No jobs, but, you know, they just love them anyway, right?

And now, I'm going to go throw up.

Esprix

[Scylla]

Originally posted by Captain Amazing
My God! Don't you know about Ian McKellan? You're playing with fire, missy, playing with fire!

Gandalf the gay?

[Chimera]

Originally posted by Scylla
Gandalf the gay?

Cue mental image of a bouncing, flamingly gay Gandalf...