Now, there was an article last week that there are supposedly lots of people who are abusing the refugee system by claiming to be gay and to be facing persecution for that reason.
Leaving aside the question of “is it really necessary to be quite so picky,” for Chrissake if you don’t think he’s really facing the persecution he says he’s facing, say so. That’s one thing.
The IRB’s line of reasoning, on the other hand, is unacceptable. It’s completely out of line to say that the closet is an acceptable alternative to losing your human rights. The notion that he’s too butch to be persecuted and that only femme men can suffer homophobia is just stupid.
Shoot, I guess that means I can’t seek asylum in Canada either when Bush unveils the next phase of his adminstration’s plan for gay people. Something to do with “resettlement in the East”–condos in New Jersey, maybe?
Huh, I got a 1 on that quiz. WTF has “straight-acting” got to do with stereotypical masculinity? “Straight-acting” means acting like straight men, so presumably that entails having sex with women. No matter how hairychested and butch one might be, if one is chugging sausage, one is not “straight-acting.”
I was given that definition when I said I was straight for my first 40 years. “No, you were straight acting!” I do have to say, I probably could have gotten an Oscar!
I guess you can use “straight acting” to mean not leaving the comfort of the closet, eh?
Oh, fer chrissake…
“Only effeminate men, HIV+, political activists and whistle blowers” are at risk? Oookaay… hey I know they cannot just let in everyone claiming to be opressed, but like matt said, they could come up with a better explanation.
Speakign of which, I have seen what the Mexican tabloid press is like. This dude’s privacy or anonymity is probably, er, blown to the moon, and by seeking asylum he has become a “troublemaker” in the eyes of those who would give him grief. Wish him luck!
Actually, most of the time it means NOT having sex with women, and acting like complete fools in the attempt to get to have some.
Stop right there. I most certainly do not need THIS going on in the customs line, it’s already annoying enough to watch people try to explain the (actual) undeclared sausages.
OK, if we’re gonna have some of you people in here, kindly act the part. Hey, could you show me the wrist thingie and do the sybilant “s” again?
You know what it reminds me of? Those surgical programs for transsexuals, where eventually they’ll do sex reassignent surgery but first you have to spend x amt of time living like the opposite sex, and you’d damn well better spend that time living like a really really stereotypical member of that sex. If you’re M2F we better not catch you in jeans, boy…
Wow, just think of the opportunity for the enterprising members of the community:
<big radio voice>
Are you trying to gain asylum from gaybashing in your native country? Are you having problems because you just not gay enough? Enroll now in “Be A Sthisthter Sthudiosth!”
We’ll teach you how to sashy, how do to the finger snap whilst screaming “GIRLFRIEND!!” Our fabulous fashion consultants will dress you in the finest form fitting tees and come fuck me shorts or luscious leather depending on body mass.
All results are guarenteed to gain you entry in the Western country of choice. Not available in all areas, do not take if under doctor’s care, your milage my vary. Not available in combination with any other offers.
</big radio voice>
Am I correctly interpreting this to mean you didn’t Come Out until you were 40 and had relationships with women before? If so, then it’s about damn time someone besides me on this board had a tough time of it. I was married until I was 32 and have been out for nearly 3 years now. All these other folks seem to have figured it out early and avoided the whole straight marriage mess.
Quite right Homebrew. BTW, I’m another queer homebrewer, been doing it for the last 3 seasons. (Queermahomo Brewing Co. presents “Queer Beer”! )
How often have you said, “Now I understand when I (insert current epiphany here)!”? OR “I should’ve known then” :smack: But if I had came out when I was in my first sexual relationship I would not have met the love of my life or could have died.
AFA relationship"s" with wom"e"n, make those singular…go figure :smack: HWMBO was married for about 1-1/2 years after high school, she wanted children…he wanted out…so he did. Do you have children? If so, there’s a thread in the making there!
(from Matt Mcl) “I know some gay refugees who put on lipstick and dressed effeminately for their hearings because they thought it would help their case. But that is not who I am,” Mr. Rivera said in an interview in a Church Street eatery in the heart of Toronto’s gay village. “You don’t choose to be gay. It’s not like being a vegetarian. It’s a very complex thing.”
I thought we were talking about getting out of an oppressive situation and getting in to the U.S. legally. I’d do whatever I had to do. Yes, the rules are out of whack, but you still have to deal with the situation at hand. That’s all’s I’m saying.
Britain wouldn’t grant an Jamaican lesbian asylum because she had children.
The fact that she had suffered physical assault because of her sexual preference, then tried to hide out of fear by having relationships with men apparently wasn’t an acceptable defence.
An official said
“While I accept that homosexuals (at least men) do enter heterosexual relationships to conceal their sexuality, the appellant seems to have done so to an extraordinary degree.”
The ruling also said:
“She could just move out of her native town of Kingston to escape the thugs rather than emigrating to England.”
Neither did the possibility that she was bisexual, and wanted the freedom to choose whichever partner she wished seem to to occur to these people.
Oh, like every 10 minutes for the first year. It still happens sometimes.
I was married for 7 years and have one child. My ex-wife is a lesbian and shared the epiphany. We still amuse ourselves sometimes with “you should’ve know when you did …” I guess the double coming out made it easier for us to maintain the friendship (once we got over the initial interference from a particularly controlling/jealous lover of hers). My story is here on the Dope.
I’ve been brewing for about 10 years total, although I haven’t brewed in about 2. I bought about 100 lbs of grain and then moved. And moved again. And again. And now I’m moving to St. Louis in two weeks. Eventually I’m going to get settled down long enough to start again. I just got a small deep freeze to use for lagering or serving kegs so I’m 'bout set.
Just out of curiosity matt, but why is this directed at Canadian officials? I don’t know for sure, but I would guess that more deserving people have been turned down for asylum in Canada. Shouldn’t the main thrust of your rant be directed at Mexico? After all that is where the problem seems to be institutionalized.
OTOH, I can see a new wave of asylum seeking gay men. They’ll be hamming it up like a cross-dressing scene on a cheesy sitcom.
YOY! ;j How ironic is that? "Honey, I love you but I"m gay…That’s OK honey, me, too! I have twin boys that are having a hard time with this. HWMBO and I have been together for a schoach over 4 years.
I have twin boys that are having a hard time with this. 
HWMBO and I have been together for a schoach over 4 years.