What countries take American refugees

Continuing the discussion from What is the Import of Mike Johnson's Win as Speaker of the House?:

Mexico, Costa Rica, Argentina are 3 I can think of.

It takes more money, but Malta, Portugal and Greece are possible.

I think you’re eligible for Israel, but they got their own right wing issues.

Depressingly few, either as refugees or ex pats. Good luck and do keep us posted if you find somewhere.

Thanks for fixing my hijack, @What_Exit. :slight_smile:

Sorry, i didn’t intend to hijack that thread.

Does this thread welcome those fleeing the other one? :grin:

Yes, come on in.

I thought to claim refugee status you need to show you are being actively oppressed by your country. Not liking some laws passed is not sufficient.

I suppose it would be different for different countries. In the US a refugee needs to have the following be true:

  • Is located outside of the United States
  • Is of special humanitarian concern to the United States
  • Demonstrates that they were persecuted or fear persecution due to race, religion, nationality, political opinion, or membership in a particular social group
  • Is not firmly resettled in another country
  • Is admissible to the United States - SOURCE

I think you’re taking the word refugee more literally than we were, but thank you for detailed breakdown.

I think a US citizen trying to claim refugee status in Canada would have a very hard case to make. Canada’s refugee provisions look at the risk of harm that a refugee is claiming, coming either from the government, or in some cases from third party actors that the government is not stopping (eg if a warlord has effective control over part of the country in question and poses a risk to the claimant).

The existence of a well-established legal system, due process, and the ability to move around in the country are usually strong factors counting against a refugee claim.

The US ticks all those boxes, compared to many other countries in the world.

Fuck that. The United States belongs to all Americans. Why should we flee and give our country over to the idiots?

The question should be what country will take Donald Trump and Mike Johnson off our hands. They love Putin so much; let’s send them to Russia.

There doesn’t seem to be a useful single comprehensive source to link to, just a lot of company’s websites, but if you google “citizenship by investment” you’ll find countries that will fast track you a citizenship in exchange for a direct cash donation or a real estate investment. If you have to ask how much, you can’t afford it.

Argentina is huge, diverse, and beautiful, but their financial situation is effed-up. Visited there in December and the currency exchange, for example, was crazy - I was told bring extra US cash, and never to use an ATM or a government exchange office. Instead seek out black market traders - you got double the exchange rate as the banks and “official” exchanges - double. Crazy! I can imagine how hard it is for local businesses and regular people to get a loan or capital. Otherwise, a great country!

I am in this camp, too. I’m staying, and working and voting to keep this country great and progressive and not let it slide backwards. Screw them!

I think we would see people flocking to the areas of the country where they are more aligned to the current political winds compared to people leaving the US altogether. I think this is already happening on a small scale. It’s a big country and there are pockets of every political stripe here and there on the map.

Endorse Little Nemo.

That said, here’s a table of countries offering residency in exchange for a minimum investment in the country: Residency by investment – Global country list | Kredium

There are lots of complications and details, but where’s the fun in that? Here’s an approximation for how much each country charges provides incentives for foreign investors. I wouldn’t get your hopes up regarding the UK or Sweden.

Australia $788,875
Austria $104,995
Bahamas $750,000
Brazil $29,025
Bulgaria $538,190
Canada $54,700
Cayman Islands $600,900
Colombia $182,800
Costa Rica $150,000
Cyprus $315,425
France $21,030
Germany $378,510
Greece $262,855
Italy $262,855
Japan $16,790
Luxembourg $524,840
Malta $10,495
Mexico $100,000
Monaco $1,049,675
Netherlands $1,312,095
Portugal $367,385
Serbia N/A
Spain $524,840
Sweden $18,000
Switzerland $217,510
UK $1,540
United Arab Emirates (Abu Dhabi and Dubai) $136,130
USA $800,000

More details at the link. Happy trails.

ETA: Again, check the link. This is to obtain residency, and even then payola is only part of the process.

Are you serious that I can buy citizenship in the UK for a measly $1500? That’s very tempting!

You need to read into that far more. Check thevlinked article to start.

Hey, I forgot, Costa Rica :costa_rica: is pretty good for Americans also.

I’m headed for Malta if things get too bad.

Because if “they” become a majority, they can make life hell for the rest of us.

A lot of LGBTQ folks would have a case, under the laws these people want to pass. Jews and Muslims might have some legitimate risks, too, but probably not to a level where they could claim refugee status.

What we need are about 200,000 pioneering Democrats to move to Wyoming and tip that state Bluish.

Alaska is also possible, but a harder sell.

Canada is quite the bargain, especially if the price is in local dollarettes. But usually disgruntled Americans just claim they want to move here until they compile the ins and outs, and realize we don’t have In-and-Outs (or Culvers).

I don’t have Culvers or In-and-Outs, but Canada is not my first choice. Your winters are brutal.

Maybe 30 years ago, I’m old now.