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Old 12-07-2006, 01:14 PM
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Survivor: Cook Islands Ep. 14 - "Arranging A Hit"

Look, you guys! It's me! Starting a Survivor thread! On time and stuff! Can you believe it? Yeah, me either, but yet, here I am. w00t! This week's episode info from Yahoo! TV is kinda spoiler-y, so I am filling up space like a good little girl for the floatovers. Santa is watching, after all!

** quietly humming that song about "whoop-de-do, and dickory dock, and don't forget to hang up your sock" just in case I need to take up some extra space **

OK, tonight's info, from Yahoo! TV (which, BTW -- they changed their site recently, and it has a slick new format and stuff, and I'm not sure I like it, but I can't tell yet, because on the one hand, I like clicking things, but on the other hand, just tell me about the show already ... anyway):
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The loved ones of the remaining castaways arrive on the island; Parvati slices her finger with a machete, which could affect her performance in the Reward Challenge; one of the castaways must leave the island.
I can't comment on that without giving anything away, so ... I hope this episode is as good as the last few have been. What could have been a train wreck of a season has turned out be quite the doozy, after all. I'm ranking this season in the Top Five overall, maybe even Top Three!
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Old 12-07-2006, 02:08 PM
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Iím right there with you rockle!

I hope Aitu eats without the spoiled ones again, because I need to get my insane giggling quota in and they've taken away 'Candice crying on Exile Island' from me.

I've got the last three episodes saved on my DVR, so it'll be me and four hours of Yul's abs and Ozzy's flexibility blown up by the Projector. *happy*
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Old 12-07-2006, 02:46 PM
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I hope Aitu eats without the spoiled ones again, because I need to get my insane giggling quota in and they've taken away 'Candice crying on Exile Island' from me.
From my cable guide:
SPOILER:

One alliance hides food from rival tribe members another in hopes of making them weak. It doesn't say which group does the hiding, but I'm guessing it's the Aitu group. I HOPE it's them, and we see a major whine-fest from the Spoiled Brat contingent. It's also the "Loved Ones" Reward Challenge this week.

Boxing it for the truly virginal among us. All I have to say is, it's gonna be good. I expect much whining.
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Old 12-07-2006, 04:25 PM
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So, there are 7 people left, but only 2 more episodes (including tonight) before the finale next Sunday. Do we get a two-fer either tonight or next Thursday? I don't think a final 3 makes sense-- too easy for there to be a tie.
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Old 12-07-2006, 04:36 PM
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So, there are 7 people left, but only 2 more episodes (including tonight) before the finale next Sunday. Do we get a two-fer either tonight or next Thursday? I don't think a final 3 makes sense-- too easy for there to be a tie.
WARNING: This is all pure speculation on my part. But it is possible that the final episode starts with five people instead of the usual four, until we whittle down to the final two. I have heard rumors that there is a final 3, but as you said, it would be very easy for there to be a tie. So who knows? Personally, I would prefer that we spend more time in the last episode focusing on getting to the final Tribal Council, instead of all that time actually being there, because I highly suspect that this clown college* of a jury is going to have a lot of really dumb questions that basically amount to, "Whaaaaa! I want the million dollars!"

[Sideshow Cecil] *I'd thank you not to refer to Princeton that way. [/SC]
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Old 12-07-2006, 04:58 PM
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...one of the castaways must leave the island.
Does that just mean that someone gets voted off, or does it mean that someone (Parvati?) has to get taken away?
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Old 12-07-2006, 05:43 PM
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Does that just mean that someone gets voted off, or does it mean that someone (Parvati?) has to get taken away?
Hard to say until we watch. I have not heard grumblings of a medical emergency this season, though.
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Old 12-07-2006, 05:56 PM
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I just want more fun like the last two weeks. I think those were my #1 and #2 favorite episodes not just of this season, but of all the seasons.

My prediction (from last week): Adam gets the boot unless he wins immunity. If he wins the IC, then Jonathan gets the boot. Adam is too much of a threat in the challenges to let him stay on any longer than he has to. Jonathan stirs up trouble, though, so he's more of a threat than Parvati.
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Old 12-07-2006, 09:15 PM
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Hmm. I am not sure how I feel about this episode. Don't want to give anything away until everybody's seen it, but I want to say this: Although I don't think this episode was as awesome as the last too, it was still pretty OK in its own way. And anyway, that Immunity Challenge was as cool as they come.

Also: I thought the role of the Jury is to sit in at Tribal Council and observe. Isn't that what Jeff keeps saying? So how come it seems to be OK for certain someones still in the game to continue to communicate with other certain someones who are now on the Jury? What the crap is that about?

Honest to God, these people? Worst poker faces ever.
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Old 12-07-2006, 10:31 PM
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I am appalled. I didn't want Jonathan to win; he's neither the best player nor the best person. But Adam? Jesus, if they were handing out the prizes based on what people deserve, he wouldn't get a return ticket home. The show was degenerated into another year of Survivor: Amazon - a show where it doesn't matter how you play the game because nobody understands what's going on and are just basing their decisions on who's the cutest.

Sadly, Yul's probably going to be the next to go. It's a popularity contest now and the jocks and homecoming queens are going to decide he's a member of the chess club. Ozzy, who's the only other player left with half a working brain, must have realized by now that Yul's his only serious competition - he'll side with the others to manuever Yul out.
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Old 12-07-2006, 10:41 PM
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Sadly, Yul's probably going to be the next to go. It's a popularity contest now and the jocks and homecoming queens are going to decide he's a member of the chess club. Ozzy, who's the only other player left with half a working brain, must have realized by now that Yul's his only serious competition - he'll side with the others to manuever Yul out.
Yul can't actually go next: hidden idol, yes?
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Old 12-07-2006, 10:53 PM
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Yul is safe for the foreseeable future. The hidden idol pretty much guarantees him at least final 3. And he and everyone else there knows it.

I was sorry to see Jonathan go, but I fear his time away from the group really showed everyone how abrasive he can be. He's a very strong player, but clearly he rubbed everyone the wrong way personality-wise.

The really terrible acting when he came back from Exile Island, though, was just painful to watch. Couldn't they at least have pretended to still like him?

That immunity challenge was amazing! Between Ozzie's incredible abilities and everyone else's painful wipeouts, it was a thing of beauty!
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Old 12-07-2006, 10:58 PM
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Ozzy, who's the only other player left with half a working brain, must have realized by now that Yul's his only serious competition - he'll side with the others to manuever Yul out.
Part of me agrees, and the other part is screaming, "NO WAY!" Because Ozzy is no doubt painfully aware that, at this point, everyone on that Jury is a former member of Raro. Which means, based on the way that these people are playing the game, the only way that Ozzy has a shot at that money is if he has another Aitu next to him at the Final Tribal Council. Because a Raro in F2 is going to win that money just for having been Raro. I mean, look at that Jury. The only one of them who looks like they're even attempting to "observe" instead of participate is Brad -- and he always looks like everyone else on the Jury just sat in dog poo or something.

Oh, and since it looks like we all know what happened now: my God, every week I love Ozzy more and more, or at least I admire his abilities. As soon as I saw that the Immunity Challenge involved swimming, I knew everyone else was toast. The guy is part dolphin, part monkey, and all awesome. And as smug a bastard as he was when he said in his interview-confessional that he enjoyed watching everybody else sucking wind in that challenge ... he was right. And I loved it.
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Old 12-07-2006, 11:08 PM
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I doubt voting off Jonathan will hurt Yul or Ozzy, but I think it's a good bet that they just signed Sundra or Becky's ticket to the jury box. I would bet that Adam wins one of the next two challenges.
Too bad for Jonathan...he deserved better.
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Old 12-07-2006, 11:15 PM
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Oh, and since it looks like we all know what happened now: my God, every week I love Ozzy more and more, or at least I admire his abilities. As soon as I saw that the Immunity Challenge involved swimming, I knew everyone else was toast. The guy is part dolphin, part monkey, and all awesome. And as smug a bastard as he was when he said in his interview-confessional that he enjoyed watching everybody else sucking wind in that challenge ... he was right. And I loved it.
I commented to my husband that Ozzy reminds me of a monkey, too...the way he scrambled through that obstacle course was amazing.

I was so disappointed about Jonathan going instead of Adam. I kind of liked Jonathan because there wasn't much B.S. in him...he was just doing what he could to win, and he was open about that. Adam, on the other hand, is a tool. Waste of space. My husband thought it was stupid to go for Jonathan first, because Adam is more of a threat in the challenges. While this is true, I wonder if Yul et al think that Adam is more of a threat in terms of brain power & potential for actually using some strategy.

I missed the conversation between Yul & Adam, where Adam was pleading his case. Does anyone remember well enough to fill me in on what he said? And did it seem to be a convincing enough reason for Yul to turn on Jonathan?
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Old 12-07-2006, 11:17 PM
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Oh, and I agree with John Mace that the last couple of episodes have been outstanding. Last week was definitely one of the best episodes of all seasons. Based on how this season started, I never would have expected it to get so good!
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Old 12-07-2006, 11:41 PM
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I was just annoyed to watch Adam's smug smirking. He was twice as obnoxious to Jonathan as Jonathan ever was to anyone else. He was twice as back-stabbing as Jonathan ever was. And he was at least ten times lazier than Jonathan as he sat there and said Jonathan hadn't "earned" his place. If Jonathan had been pressed to explain how he had earned his place, what was going to be his answer - "Well, I've got nice teeth and these killer dimples."

Okay, granted - Adam's worthless. But he somehow manged to convince everyone else he had a point and that's what's sad. And the peanut gallery was sitting there hooting and hollering for him like he was Lincoln debating Douglas.

Jonathan should have opened a can of whoop-ass on Adam: "Damn right I saved their asses, Jeff. Yul, Ozzy, Becky, Sundra - any of you fools remember where you were last week? Adam and Parvati were hooked up with Candice and Nate and they were planning on voting you off. They were all laughing at you then because they figured you didn't have a chance. And who saved you? I did - Adam and Parvati didn't lift a finger to save you - that was me. Adam and Parvati accuse me of betraying people. But I didn't vote anyone off the show by myself. Look over at the jury you two - you had alliances with Brad, Rebecca, and Jenny and you voted against every one of them. And Candice, how long do you think it took after you left before Adam and Parvati hooked up? So now you all sit here and talk about loyalty. Well do you guys have any loyalty? Are you going to stay loyal to the guy you made a promise to or are you going to stab him in the back? Or are you going to trust two people who have never done anything to help anybody but themselves?"
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Old 12-07-2006, 11:42 PM
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Ugh, I am just annoyed I have to look at Adam's ugly smarmy face for another episode.

Aitu voted like dumbasses tonight. Now all Adam & Parvati have to do is get one or both of the girls to flip and there goes their final four. I don't know why they gave up a solid advantage to give the other side a fighting chance. Idiots. I still hope the final two are Yul & Ozzy, but what a bad move tonight. If Adam wins immunity next week this is really going to come back to bite them in the ass.
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Old 12-07-2006, 11:58 PM
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I gasped when I saw Sundra take that hard fall between the barrel and the floating dock. That had to hurt like the dickens!

I always cry when they bring on the loved ones. Tonight was no exception.
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Old 12-08-2006, 12:15 AM
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Now all Adam & Parvati have to do is get one or both of the girls to flip and there goes their final four.
Yep. Becky and Yul are tight. Adam and Parvati are tight. Ozzy's looking after himself, and up until now he was good with Yul. Sundra? She's loyal. But when it comes down to it I think she's the most easily flipped. Yul & Co. should have voted Adam off instead of Jonathan. Jonathan would have made a solid voting bloc of himself, Yul and Becky. Now Adam and Pavarti can probably easily flip Sundra. Ozzy will see which way the wind blows and vote with them.

But there's still the issue of the Immunity Idol. Ideally, A&P et al can vote for Yul, and at the same time engineer it so that Ozzy gets Yul and Becky's votes. Yul loses the Idol, and Ozzy gets the boot. Assuming, of course, that Adam wins immunity and Ozzy doesn't.

If Adam doesn't win immunity and Ozzy does, then Adam will go. He's a strong competitor, and they need to get rid of the strongest.
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Old 12-08-2006, 12:33 AM
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

Oh My Og, what dumbasses!!!
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Old 12-08-2006, 01:30 AM
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I gasped when I saw Sundra take that hard fall between the barrel and the floating dock. That had to hurt like the dickens!
I'd rather fall on a barrel than slice my finger with a machete. And I agree Aitu boned the vote tonight. An annoying kingmaker like Jonathan is someone you want to keep with you to Final 2, not someone you let be voted off. I cannot believe Yul made the decision to boot Jonathan. I suspect one of the girls in his alliance made the decision, and Yul is playing along to maintain harmony.

I think Yul wants Adam and Parvati to save face by staying longer than Jonathan. And I think he might be drunk with immunity idol power and deluded enough to think they're still a lock to leave in the next two votes. Anything can happen, Yul! Wake up and plan for the worst, hope for the best.
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Old 12-08-2006, 05:22 AM
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I laughed out loud multiple times this episode, most notably when Sundra slammed into the platform. That looked like it hurt like a mofo, but since she was just bruised, it was comedy gold. I rewound it multiple times. Then Ozzy laughing about everybody "eating it" had me cracking up all over again. Hey, for the Ozzy lovers, ya'll are aware and have seen his "softcore" stuff, right? It was mentioned in tv guide. Something to hunt down to keep you going until next week, at least.

The palpable sense of discomfort when Jonathan sat down with the group was hysterical. What a douchebag Jonathan is, and I liked him a lot on Rude Awakenings. First he shoehorns himself into the mutiny, then he turns around and bails on Raro. He set records for backstabbing. His big blunder was when he switched back to Aitu because the dumbasses on Raro didn't believe Yul had the idol. What he should have done was tell them Yul had shown him the idol, especially since the only reason he flipped was because he honestly believed that Yul did have it. That would have saved him major integrity points, he'd still be in the game right now with four Raro and Ozzy, and nobody still in the game would be pissed at him except Ozzy.

Speaking of integrity, I will break custom and use an emoticon for the first time in over two years: Survivor players who talk about integrity? Give me a fucking break. The game is all about backstabbing; the only question is who can piss people off the least while doing it. There is no other way to play. (Well, except for Rudy from season 1, but his wasn't a viable strategy.)

Another hysterical moment was when either Jonathan or Adam was whining at the other how they didn't deserve the be there, the camera pan to Becky was evilly perfect. WTF has either Becky or Sundra done to merit being in the game this long? What do they do, boil water?

I think Yul hit an all-time scuzzy low with his suggestion to hide the food. I give Ozzy credit in that he kinda trapped Yul on that one. Ozzy said "should we do something about the food situation?" and left it at that. Yul volunteered "you mean hide it?" And then followed up his own question with "yeah, we should hide it." You know that's what Ozzy was thinking as well, but he has plausible deniability. ("I meant we should switch to everyone for themself.") The hiding of the food was more skeevy than anything Johnny freakin' Fairplay would ever do. It was funny that they brought all the food back right after, though I'm guessing without the presence of Sundra at the reward they may not have been so generous.

As for the finale, TV Guide has an unmarked spoiler in the current issue (no player names, just logistical info):
SPOILER:
It will be a final 3, and with a jury of 9 there is a mathematical chance for a two or even three way tie. When I say final two down below, I don't care who the third is.
Should be good.

Anyway, I'm still rooting for Ozzy and Parvati to be the final two. Speaking of Parvati, she had and will continue to have no chance in the immunity challenges with that thumb. Swimming is fine, but this is the most knot-happy season I've ever seen. It's gotta suck to untie shit with a severed thumb. (Which grossed me the hell out; my skin was crawling.)

Oh yeah, holy shit was Adam smarmy after the vote at tribal council. That was up there with Jonathan loudly saying "And we can't share, right?" when he won the pizza at the food auction.
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[Adam] was twice as back-stabbing as Jonathan ever was.
Refresh my memory on who Adam backstabbed. From what I recall, he has been unwaveringly tight with the original Raro then the new Raro (in that priority order) the whole game. The only exception has been his hatred for Jonathan, yes? Jonathan turned on everyone in the game at one point or another. Yul, Becky, Parvati and Adam are the ones who have never flipped by my reckoning. Ozzy engineered throwing a challenge to get a guy on his original tribe booted, Jonathan wholesale flipped tribes twice, and I don't have any memory of Sundra except her spectacular wipeout during the challenge this episode.

Is there an anti-jock/homecoming queen bias clouding opinions, or have I missed some backstabbing?
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Old 12-08-2006, 08:14 AM
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What a douchebag Jonathan is ... He set records for backstabbing. His big blunder was when he switched back to Aitu because the dumbasses on Raro didn't believe Yul had the idol. ... That would have saved him major integrity points, he'd still be in the game right now with four Raro and Ozzy ...
Jonathan is no worse a douchebag than quite a few other people in Survivor history, at least one of whom has won the game. He himself admitted that the mutiny was a bad idea, an impulsive one. But it wouldn't have saved him anything to stick with Raro afterwards -- if he had, he'd have been voted out at the first merged Tribal Council, instead of Nate (because Yul would have used the Idol to save himself). That's all. Jonathan's problem wasn't the loyalty violations, it was his mouth: he should have kept it shut. And say this while kind of liking the guy, a little bit.


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Give me a fucking break. The game is all about backstabbing; the only question is who can piss people off the least while doing it. There is no other way to play. (Well, except for Rudy from season 1, but his wasn't a viable strategy.)
I don't think this is true. Certainly Ethan Zohn would beg to differ, and probably Tom Westman. I would even argue that Brian Heidik didn't backstab all the time -- is it really backstabbing if you're honest about the fact that you want to get rid of anybody who isn't you? When the tribes first merged, Jonathan tried to tell Adam et al. that Yul had the Idol, and they didn't want to listen. I can't blame the guy for flipping. Nobody wants to be the last rat on the sinking ship. I would have probably done it myself.


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WTF has either Becky or Sundra done to merit being in the game this long? What do they do, boil water?
They boil water, and they make their vote available to whoever will keep them in the game. This strategy won Sandra Diaz-Twine a million dollars, so it's hard to argue with it. It's the same strategy that Jonathan was trying to use, except that it is most effective when you keep your mouth shut about it, and just, you know, do it.


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I think Yul hit an all-time scuzzy low with his suggestion to hide the food. ... The hiding of the food was more skeevy than anything Johnny freakin' Fairplay would ever do.
It's not like they hid the coconuts well, or buried them under rocks, or anything like that. They just threw them in the trees and decided to make everyone else do their own "shopping." The lowest thing? Happened in the Pearl Islands, when the aforementioned Sandra secretly hid stuff and threw out food in an effort to sabotage camp when she thought she was going to be voted out. And then, when she wasn't? She let someone else take the blame for it. She admits to this. That was pretty rotten, and also kind of awesome.
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Old 12-08-2006, 08:18 AM
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The lowest thing? Happened in the Pearl Islands, when the aforementioned Sandra secretly hid stuff and threw out food in an effort to sabotage camp when she thought she was going to be voted out. And then, when she wasn't? She let someone else take the blame for it. She admits to this. That was pretty rotten, and also kind of awesome.
Not just someone else, but her closest ally left in the game...
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Old 12-08-2006, 08:18 AM
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What he should have done was tell them Yul had shown him the idol, especially since the only reason he flipped was because he honestly believed that Yul did have it.
He did tell them that Yul showed him the idol. They didn't believe him.
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Old 12-08-2006, 08:20 AM
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He did tell them that Yul showed him the idol. They didn't believe him.
Actually, he told them that Yul showed him the idol after the eviction that got rid of Nate, because Yul didn't actually show him the idol until after the conversation where everyone said, "No WAY he has it!"
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Old 12-08-2006, 09:07 AM
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The lowest thing? Happened in the Pearl Islands, when the aforementioned Sandra secretly hid stuff and threw out food in an effort to sabotage camp when she thought she was going to be voted out. And then, when she wasn't? She let someone else take the blame for it. She admits to this. That was pretty rotten, and also kind of awesome.
I spent a few minutes explaining this to a non-Survivor friend who was over last night. Still one of my favorite moments ever.

I have nothing to say that hasn't already been said, but could Adam look any more like his dad?
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Old 12-08-2006, 09:27 AM
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I spent a few minutes explaining this to a non-Survivor friend who was over last night. Still one of my favorite moments ever.
Yeah. I think that Sandra is my favorite winner, mostly because she used the exact same strategy I would have to use*. I call it the "Mercenary Tactic." The funny thing is, in any other season, it wouldn't have worked -- I mean, we can all see how well things worked out for Jonathan. It worked for Sandra because of who she was up against: Lil, who everyone hated for being an Outcast, and Johnny Fairplay, who everyone hated for being Johnny Fairplay. Unfortunately for Jonathan, nobody really hates Yul, except for the usual class of "h4t3rz."

* Unless being pudgy and pasty suddenly counts as having "sex appeal," in which case I'm golden.
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Old 12-08-2006, 09:36 AM
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My wife saw it last night - has watched few if any previous eps this season. She kept commenting on what a jerk Jonathan was, and I kept trying to tell her that while he has a certain personality, I didn't really think of him as way more of a jerk than everyone else. In fact, I generally appreciate folks who are willing to say what they think and feel.

Her other comment was that everyone must have had their teeth whitened and capped before the game started.

Man, I've taken a few hard falls, and that hit Sundra took was MAJOR! Pavarti's finger slice was no treat either. Ouch.

I was impressed at how much I wanted someone to smack Adam across the face with a 2x4. Wierd that they let him and Candace communicate so openly, and Nate be so demonstrative. (She sure does clean up good!)

Thought it was a fun twist making Pavarti's dad pick who went with them.

Have we had a gross food eating challenge yet this season? Those are always among my favorites.
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Old 12-08-2006, 09:50 AM
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I laughed out loud multiple times this episode, most notably when Sundra slammed into the platform. That looked like it hurt like a mofo, but since she was just bruised, it was comedy gold. I rewound it multiple times.
I've always thought some challenges need Kenny Blankenship and Vic Romano from MXC as guest announcers.

Kenny: Oooh! Sundra hit that barrel like a Nurse hitting an uncooperative Alzheimer's patient!
Vic: Right you are Ken!

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Hey, for the Ozzy lovers, ya'll are aware and have seen his "softcore" stuff, right? It was mentioned in tv guide. Something to hunt down to keep you going until next week, at least.
I was wondering why Jeff referred to Ozzy's "pole" so many times during the challenge. "Ozzy's laying things out just to see how much pole he's got to work with!" "Ozzy's doing the whole thing with his pole!"
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Old 12-08-2006, 10:04 AM
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Man, Parvarti was such a bitch. I hate her and Adam but now I kinda hope both of them end up the final two just to teach a lesson to the rest of those schmucks.
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Old 12-08-2006, 10:05 AM
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I wonder if Ozzy and Sundra (both having been shown to have continued issues with Jonathan) persuaded Yul on this issue... I could see this happening, as he is a team player.

Of course, now we have to put up with Adam's grin for another week...*sighs sadly*

I would have liked to have Jonathan for a bit longer, if only for the comedy factor. He said some funny things! And he really was trying to play the game, as opposed to just skating along like others...

Is it just me, or is the Jury more annoying than the current competitors? Nate bops around and makes these...faces...that make me twitch and Candice was still so smug looking from the Jury! Boggles the mind.

And how is it that Brad is still the prettiest person on the Jury with three other women there?
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Old 12-08-2006, 10:22 AM
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I've always thought some challenges need Kenny Blankenship and Vic Romano from MXC as guest announcers.

Kenny: Oooh! Sundra hit that barrel like a Nurse hitting an uncooperative Alzheimer's patient!
Vic: Right you are Ken!
My roommate went into the other room for a minute just before the challenge, came out in time to see Sundra bite the big one, and said "Hey, is this Log Drop??"

I would like to see a Survivor Most Painful Eliminations, that'd be fun.
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Old 12-08-2006, 10:30 AM
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Have we had a gross food eating challenge yet this season? Those are always among my favorites.
They haven't had a gross food challenge since Pulau. They had the challenge where people had to eat pickled duck embryos (baluts?); kind of like a crunchy hard-boiled egg (tom: "hm... there was a bit of bill in that one..."). In a later challenge, when Jeff was trying to bribe people out of the post-standnig competition with food, Ian requested baluts... they haven't had gross food since. Besides, these people have been eating worms and snails and raw sea cucumbers.
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Old 12-08-2006, 12:58 PM
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I was wondering why Jeff referred to Ozzy's "pole" so many times during the challenge. "Ozzy's laying things out just to see how much pole he's got to work with!" "Ozzy's doing the whole thing with his pole!"
Yeah, we were making up our own commentary for that.

"Ozzy sure seems like he's handled long pole before!"

I think the best play was for Yul to break up the Adam/Parvati duo when he had the chance. That said, he was likely under serious pressure from his own alliance to get rid of Jonathan first, and under pressure from the Raro's with the threat of the F2 vote. I can see him seeing this as a smarter long-term political play.

There may also be elements of complaceny at work, because as much as Yul says he's not comfortable being the leader, he's lying. He's secretly enjoying being safe and in charge.

Parvati and Adam still have a chance. Many folks are making decisions based on likability over other factors. Bringing back food was a very smart move for them.
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Old 12-08-2006, 01:18 PM
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Refresh my memory on who Adam backstabbed. From what I recall, he has been unwaveringly tight with the original Raro then the new Raro (in that priority order) the whole game. The only exception has been his hatred for Jonathan, yes?
Back when the mutiny happened and Candice and Jonathan joined the Raros, all the original Raros declared that they would stick together and vote out the newcomers. Adam was one of the Raros who was saying this. However, instead of doing it, he was one of the people who then voted to kick Brad, then Rebecca, and then Jenny out of the game while keeping Candice and Jonathan in.
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Old 12-08-2006, 01:33 PM
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Man, that blew. Poor Yul surely got pushed into that decision by the others in his alliance. Adam was the clear choice. But oh well, hopefully they can get him next time, and don't get too worried about Ozzy too soon. Ozzy just dominated that immunity challenge. It was a beautiful thing to see. (Sundra- Ouch!) But any risk of a Raro in the final is too much, especially with Sundra ripe to flip.

Ordinarily I'd have thought the food hiding thing was low, but Parvati and Adam are perfectly capable of getting their own food, if they'd just get up off their asses.

when Adam told Jonathan he didn't deserve to be there because of his "integrity" I was practically screaming at the screen. I didn't know the name of the game was "Integrity-haver: outtrust, outcommit, outtruth." It's Survivor, dammit! Your supposed to get past each elimination however you can! the only benefit to Jonathan going this week is at least we don't have to see the smarmy twins hold hands in the Jury box, unless they do so over Jonathan's lap.
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Old 12-08-2006, 01:37 PM
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I don't think anyone has formed a Final 3 alliance yet (at least, not that I recall). All Adam & Poverty have to do is promise Becky or Sundra to take them to the F3, and the Balance of Stupidity has shifted.
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Old 12-08-2006, 01:38 PM
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It'll be interesting to see how Jonathan votes -- he's got reason to hate everybody who's remaining, but presumably he has to vote for somebody.
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Old 12-08-2006, 02:02 PM
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Hmm. It probably won't be too bad that they voted of Jonathan instead of Adam, but I still think it was a stupid move. The chances of Adam winning 2 ICs in a row are slim, but not zero. I always worry when a team starts getting too smug.

Christ, now we know where Adam got that dumb-ass grin from-- chip off the ol' block, for sure. Ozzy was just unbelievable in that challenge. He flew over the barrels like they weren't even there. Still, Yul wasn't too far behind.
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Old 12-08-2006, 02:08 PM
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And as amazing as Ozzy was, he didn't even look like he was trying all that hard. He practically sauntered up the beach.
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Old 12-08-2006, 02:08 PM
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And as amazing as Ozzy was, he didn't even look like he was trying all that hard. He practically sauntered up the beach.
Well, his pants were about to fall down...
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Old 12-08-2006, 02:22 PM
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Anyone else catch Jonathan on the Early Show today? He cleans up really nice.

I almost never watch it myself, but figured I'd make an exception for Jonathan. Plus I missed his final words after TC.
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Old 12-08-2006, 02:34 PM
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Well, his pants were about to fall down...
Oh, yeah -- I forgot to mention this: Ozzy performed those amazing feats of awesomeness last night, all the while trying to keep his pants on! (Unfortunately.) Heavens to Mergatroid.
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Old 12-08-2006, 02:46 PM
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I'll miss Jonathan, one of the most interesting players on Survivor ever.

As for hiding the food- if there are a couple of people that refuse to help gather the food, why let them eat it? It seems like the lazy-ass strategy is let the others burn calories gathering the food so that the lazy-asses can iesaving energy for competitions.
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Old 12-08-2006, 03:31 PM
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Anyone else catch Jonathan on the Early Show today? He cleans up really nice.

I almost never watch it myself, but figured I'd make an exception for Jonathan. Plus I missed his final words after TC.
I watched part of it. He pointed out the careful editing of the auction: Adam won a full breakfast, Yol won some food as well; with the pizza, they also gave Johnathan a large soda, so he had a lot of food and a lot of fizzy drinks, so of course he burped. He pointed out again that he really wanted to share the food, but they wouldn't let him.

He also said that he honestly feel that Adam and Parvati have just played the game at that point better than he did, evidenced by the fact that he was on the Early Show and they weren't...
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Old 12-08-2006, 08:32 PM
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Refresh my memory on who Adam backstabbed. From what I recall, he has been unwaveringly tight with the original Raro then the new Raro (in that priority order) the whole game. The only exception has been his hatred for Jonathan, yes?
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Back when the mutiny happened and Candice and Jonathan joined the Raros, all the original Raros declared that they would stick together and vote out the newcomers. Adam was one of the Raros who was saying this. However, instead of doing it, he was one of the people who then voted to kick Brad, then Rebecca, and then Jenny out of the game while keeping Candice and Jonathan in.
The original Raros were the caucasians. (Adam, Parvati, Candice, Jonathan and Flicka.) Nate, Brad and Jenny joined the new Raro when Candice and Jonathan were "lost" in the early reshuffling. Then Candice & Jonathan returned via mutiny to reunite four of the five original Raro. Adam has been unwaveringly tight with the original Raro then the new Raro in that priority order. His only flip has been Jonathan, and that was only after Jonathan flipped on Raro. Flicka is a possible exception to that; was she voted out when Raro was still an all-caucasian tribe, or after the reshuffling?

rockle, your points are excellent.
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Old 12-08-2006, 09:28 PM
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The original Raros were the caucasians. (Adam, Parvati, Candice, Jonathan and Flicka.) ... Flicka is a possible exception to that; was she voted out when Raro was still an all-caucasian tribe, or after the reshuffling?
She was voted out of Aitu -- she was the last "involuntary" casualty before the mutiny.
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Old 12-08-2006, 10:10 PM
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Almost entirely off-topic. Remember how when rockle started this thread she hummed a few bars of a song? Well, I didn't recognize the song. No big, there are lots of songs I don't recognize. Well, this morning, I went for a drive. The local all Christmas music station (which will be soft rock in about 3 weeks) played THAT SONG. It has haunted me off and on for the rest of the day.

So thanks a lot, rockle.
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