I’m surprised there is no thread started yet. This was one of the best episodes yet - great challenges - girls in a barrel amd how can you not like a challenge involving cannonballs?
Candace made a valiant play for the title of worst move in Survivor history, only to have it snatched from her hands seconds later by Jonathon.
Ozzy moves from least likely to suceed to the top of the food chain in one episode.
Jonathon is being kept around as a useful idiot, and watching his face as he realizes how stupid he has been is just precious.
Candace trades a shot at a million dollars for a little nookie with a sack of hammers.
I thought for the first few moments that the race war was going to start, but now it looks like the Caucasions have imploded and all bets are off. The jury twist was nice, too.
I hate Nate. Everytime someone makes a random comment, he twists it around to make everyone else think the commentor meant something different . He did it with Stephanie and the mashed potatoes comment, and tonight with Brad. He’s an idiot.
I wondered later what would have happened if, right after Candace and Jonathan decided to mutiny, the rest of Aitu stepped forward saying they wanted to go to Raro also. Would that have forced the merge right then and there?
I’m not liking much of anyone on Raro right now. I was previously rooting for Candace, but I didn’t like her move tonight and I can’t stand her showmance boyfriend, Adam. Lamar’s ‘sack of hammers’ description is too generous. Nate’s kind of a weasel. Pavarti and Rebecca might be OK, but I don’t feel we’ve seen enough of them to judge.
I like pretty much everyone on Aitu. Ozzie is such a stud in the challenges–I’ve got to respect that. Yul is my kind of player. He’s very thoughtful when it comes to strategy and he has a real ‘even-keel’ temperament. I hope he wins it all. The Aitu girls both seem nice, but again we haven’t seen enough of either of them to judge them.
I was rooting very hard for the newly shrunken tribe to win the challenges. Although I did have a moment when I thought it might be interesting to have 8 people on one tribe and 3 on the other. Then I decided to go back to rooting for the small tribe.
The attempted manipulations of various combinations of tribe members could get interesting–especially now that there has been this mutiny. Kind of fun to see that balancing act between “Let’s get rid of the new people, they aren’t loyal and we don’t know how they’ll vote” and “Let’s keep the new people who can be manipulated and dump the someone who might stage a coup”(or whatever it was that made the guy undesirable).
OK, you guys: This season’s challenges? Totally kick eleventy kinds of ass. I don’t think there’s been one in the bunch that wasn’t pretty cool to begin with. I don’t know who the head Challenge Producer is this year, but s/he deserves a HUGE bonus to go along with my undying love. Way to use your powers for Awesome, Challenge Producer Person! Because, seriously? I’m not all that crazy about a bunch of these people, but these challenges definitely keep me watching.
The mutiny has me fascinated – what in the world was Jonathan thinking? Does he really think that anybody on Raro is going to want to keep him around? He’s pretty smart, relatively strong, and he never shuts the hell up. Recipe for disaster right there, big guy.
And I’m confused about this Jury twist they-re working on. Brad was the 12th player left in the game, so that mean that they’re either going with a 10-member Jury with a chance at a tie, or … they’re going to have a Final Three this year. Which is really nifty, I think. And kind of evil, because we’ve already heard people talking about being in the F2 with someone else. Bwahahaha.
I also wonder when the players are going to start figuring this bit out. I strongly doubt that anyone on Raro is going to get it just yet, except maybe Jenny, who seems pretty sharp. When Aitu walks in for the next Reward Challenge and Jeff says that “Brad is the first member of our Jury,” Yul and Ozzy are going to get it right away, I think. It’s going to be a lot of fun to see how this all plays out.
Look at it from Jonathan’s point of view: he was fucked whatever he did. If he stayed at Aitu, he would have been voted off, most likely next, without Candace’s vote. (Of course, she was leaning towards getting rid of him anyway, but he didn’t know that at the time.) If he leaves with her, he’s entering a new tribe with established alliances and is a likely first or second vote out.
He was put in a horrible situation by someone he trusted, who was going to backstab him without his knowledge anyway. I felt bad for him.
What amazes me is that no one seemed at all bothered that they suddenly had a Raro tribe of 8, of whom 4 were originally together in a single tribe – first allegieances are strongest allegiencies? With the other four being one Asian, two Blacks, and one Hispanci.
And who do they vote off? The Asian, handing the whites a voting majority in the tribe!
And not one word about that said, or at least shown. All very utopian, ‘none of us think race matters’.
I don’t believe it. Editing.
OTOH, I’m loving the remaining Aitu tribe: they’re all good competitors, and they seemed to really bond over the ‘mutiny’ followed by the ‘see my family’ rewards. And Yul has the Hidden Idol, so possibly at merger the ex-Raro’s will target him as the biggest physical threat and have it blow up in their faces.
Plus they have ‘advantage’ of being a small tribe. They won’t have to do the maneuvering the 7 pack will, of jostling for ‘ousting order’, with all the tensions and doubt and backstabbing and ill will that creates.
So I think the Aitu tribe will go far. Maybe all the way to Final Four.
Another small tribe advantage is having all their best players compete in every challenge. (That can be a drawback as well, all their worst players also compete in every challenge, and no one gets to rest after a particularly exhausting challenge). But there will be no tension over who sits out, who doesn’t sit out, and all that kind of stuff.
I’m hoping that the producers hold off on the merge until one team is whittled away a la Kuror. And, of course, I’m hoping that Aitu continues to kick major ass. It would just be so fantastic for them to go into a merge four-four because Jonathan and Candice were stupid.
Dammit, do you have a listening post in my living room??? How awesome would a Final Three be?
Last night, my roommate and I had a friend over, who isn’t a Survivor fan. We spent a little while explaining that between 16 and 10 people, there’s usually not much excitement on the show, but we keep watching for that one moment where it gets interesting. Candice and Jonathan unadvisedly provided that moment last night.
Had Jonathan stayed with Aitu, would he have been the next one out, though? I thought Ozzie was next in line to go, and not just with Jonathan, but with the others, too. Of course, once again…editing. Who knows. But if that’s the case, Ozzie just saved himself big time. At this point anyone who boots him before the merge is nuts. He kicked eleventy ten kinds of ass in that reward challenge! Man, the kid is a fish!
Why did nobody on Aitu notice Candace and Adam making kissy-faces every time the two tribes faced off, though? Especially Jonathan, who otherwise seemed fairly savvy about what was going on – for someone who spent so much time thinking strategically, he really missed the elephant in the living room, didn’t he?
It suddenly got interesting for the first time this season!
I hadn’t thought of having a Final Three, given a 10-person jury. My idea was that, before the final vote, the jurors have a challenge and the winner gets to vote somebody off the jury.
I think Johnathan expected Candice to (a) be more on his side after they mutinied, and (b) be there the first night to explain things to the tribe. Instead, she was off to Exile Island, and Johnathan had to think fast, which he’s not so good at.
Hey, remember all the hype about how Raro was going to kick ass in all the challenges because they got all the beef, and scrawny li’l Aitu wouldn’t be able to cut the mustard? How’s that working out for them, hmmm? :dubious:
My wife and I thought that either there would be a juror voted off, or maybe they’d do some kind of phone-in vote where America gets to be the 11th juror.
Oh, Og, I hope that doesn’t happen. The absolute worst moment in Survivor history was that bogus $1 mil to Stupert, and letting America vote on anything involving Survivor is a disaster.
I love Probst’s commmentary. Add this week’s “and my commentarty is frustrating Jonathan” to “and the men are deciding who has the longest pole” to the Probst moments that made me laugh out loud alone in my living room.
That might have been the best *Survivor *episode ever. Certainly one of the best. I think the defections just boosted Ozzy’s chances a whooooooole lot. He’s tight with Yul and the rest of them now. What a great team that is, and I was rooting for them the whole time. I can hardly wait til next week!
And Yul proved again how valuable he is on challenges. Forget the stupid bullseye-glass-bottom thingie. Just look down the cannonball tube until you see the basket, then blam! Between he and Ozzy, Aitu might be the best tribe ever when it comes to challenges.
