This episode had one of those yelling at the screen moments for me. When you are trying to carry a weight across a narrow beam hold it centered in front of you! Not off to one side! Haven’t any of these people seen a tight rope walker before?
And why is Yul still there? These dimwits should have voted him out weeks ago. Yes, I know he has the Immunity Idol. So you vote him out, he uses it and now eveybody is equal again and one player doesn’t have the deck stacked in his favor anymore. Idiots!
I thought this as well. Can we discuss the show? Has it aired on the West Coast?
(I never understood this rule. Shouldn’t people be watching the show instead of reading the board?)
Well… I can watch and surf the Dope at the same time, can’t I?
Not really a spoiler, but it was in the previews, so:
There will apparently be three Tribal Councils on Sunday.
So if there are three tribal councils left, and 5 players left… does that confirm the ‘final three’ theory?
The final tribal council is the one that decides the winner, right? So the next two tribal councils eliminate one person each, leaving three contestants for the jury to choose from in the final TC.
Anyhow, I’m glad to see the Aitu four sticking together still. It may not make for much suspense, but I really didn’t want to see Parvati and Adam break up that alliance, and I pray that Adam doesn’t wind up as a possible choice in a final three pick–he could benefit from a split vote if two more deserving players (like Yul and Ozzie) are in the F3 also.
Jezus, Ozzy managed to beat everyone on that mud challenge by over 20 pounds?!?. And he totally dominated that balancing act as well.
I loved Jeff’s comment to Adam: you look like a real threat, on paper. Zing!
No suspense at all to the final vote, other than a choice btw Parvati or Adam. Adam goes next, then all bets are off (as always), unless Yul somehow decides to finally turn on Ozzy in the next vote.
I do take the “five people, three tribal councils” as a confirmation that there will be a final three. Wow, I really didn’t think that would happen. This means an underdog could pull votes aways from a favorite, and permit a second-banana to win the $1mil. (Think Clinton-Bush1-Perot; Perot ate into Bush1’s total, permitting Clinton to win with a plurality. Can that same scenario play out with 3 candidates and 10 total votes to dole out?).
Pimphatgate was just weird. Yul left the hat before the jury came out. No one on the jury saw him leave it. If Jeff hadn’t said anything, Jonathan would have no evidence one way or another just who left it. So HOW was Yul trying to “suck up” for Jonathan’s vote? Was there supposed to be a note on the hat? “Yul brought it back for you”?
JEFF was the one who made a big deal about it. Jeff was the one who basically TOLD Jonathan who left it for him. There was absolutely no reason to think that Yul was sucking up for votes, because there was no way Jonathan could be sure who had returned it.
STFU, Jeff.
Yul looks to have it in the bag. Parvati tonight, then next is Adam. Sondra probably goes next unless Yul and the girls vote out Ozzy. If they vote out Ozzy and the girls go after Yul, he still has an immunity. He’s practically a lock to make the final cut if not win the whole thing.
The only Survivor I ever watched before was the one with Rupert. This one’s actually got my attention.
This episode was mostly boring, but what made it worth it was watching Yul telling Adam to stop playing games. 
Yul: Quit playing games.
Adam: No don’t hurt me!
That’s how I remember it.
Is it just me, or is it fairly obvious the only reason Adam was kept around is because he has a better chance at winning immunity and thus giving the Aitu core (Yul/Becky/Sundra) a shot at voting off Ozzie? I mean, Yul’s analysis as to why Parvati is a bigger threat doesn’t really apply to Ozzie: everything she is good at (swimming, balance, etc.), he is great at. Ergo, she cannot top him. But Adam, being a male, is a better all-around athlete than she, has height on Ozzie and might have more brute strength than him as well. Though unlikely, Adam probably has a better chance at unseating Ozzie in an IC than Parvati.
Although I don’t care for those two smiling bobbleheads/bubbleheads, I would have loved for Ozzie to have recognized this, jump ship and flip the game. He should know he’s on the chopping block once he loses. Did you see the other Aitu sourpuss faces when he won immunity?
I agree, it was cool watching Adam wet his pants when Yul gave him a talkin’-to for tampering with Ozzie. How dare Adam try to improve his chances! :eek: Man, they are all drinkin’ Yul’s Kool-Aid straight to their own graves.
I don’t think they are thinking straight - they’re thinking, “Oh, he has the Immunity Idol, we can’t vote him out!”
Uh, yeah, you can. Vote for him and force him to use it. Then vote him off next time. :rolleyes:
Cai Boy (sp?) had the right idea weeks ago to smoke it out. Spread the votes out to force it into play and get rid of it.
Yes, and no. I’m willing to bet that it was Becky, and not Yul, who pointed out before last night’s T.C. that Adam is the only person besides Ozzy who’s won Immunity, which is probably why they (she?) decided to keep him around instead of Parvati. But the fact is that there is no reason why Yul couldn’t win Immunity at one of the challenges himself and take Ozzy out – I actually think he respects Ozzy enough as a competitor to prefer that course. Yul is not the kind of guy who normally asks someone else to do his dirty work for him, I don’t think.
What’s funny to me is how knowing your audience is coming into play here. Although nothing on Survivor surprises me any more, I have to admit that I will raise an eyebrow a little if Yul actually wins this. Ozzy has being doing some good work, like when he was “bonding” with Parvati last night, talking about how he has to play to win every time so he doesn’t go home. It looks to me like Ozzy and Yul are going to be in the Final 3 – with probably Becky, if my gut is correct – and I think Ozzy might win.*
One of his confessionals last night said it all for me: “I have been playing this as an individual game since I got here.” I think this is going to carry a lot of weight with this particular Jury, and Ozzy seems smart enough to know this. I can picture the final Tribal Council, and I can picture Yul being honest yet diplomatic, whereas I see Ozzy being a little more blunt and making no aplogies. It’s always hard to say who’s going to do what, but this seems like a pretty bitter Jury, so I think Yul’s going to be a much harder sell than Ozzy, who has being quietly been doing spin control behind the scenes since Day One.
** Or else he’s going to come in 3rd, which is the highest my favorite player in a season has ever finished, unless Brian Heidik counts. I didn’t like him, but I loved the way he played the game.*
I cannot believe that this is the first time the women noticed that Ozzy dominates the challenges. From Day 1 he has been awesome on challenges. He can swim, he can climb, he can do puzzles AND unlike most men he’s not weighed down by muscle mass AND he has balance. I don’t foresee him losing a challenge in the near future. And he has managed to get through the game without really pissing someone off on the jury.
I think Yul was smart to get rid of Pavrati first. She has come in the top 3 on most of the challenges, IIRC. And if they got rid of Adam, she and the girls might have figured out that the odds were stacked against them and turned on Yul. I also like how he tried to assuage her feelings by assuring her that Adam was the bigger threat and vice versa, so she wouldn’t appeal to the women to move now before it was too late.
Personally I’d vote for Adam, Yul, or Ozzy before either Sundra or Becky for the $1m. Adam and Yul are still around after how many trips to Exile Island? And Ozzy, well he’s just an all-around great player. Neither Sundra nor Becky strike me as any sort of threat for winning the money. Hiding behind a dominant player isn’t a great strategy for winning it all. And now that Jonathan is gone, there’s no one left to hate.
No kidding. And the women have benefited from it, too, back when they were 4-against-a-mass. They weren’t moaning then about ‘how competitive’ Ozzy is! Their silly whining was the most irritating part of the game last night. It’s an individual game now, ladies! What was he supposed to do? Throw the challenge so one of your useless asses could have the reward? Bah.
I missed the show last night; I assume Parvati got voted off. Did anybody talk about the basic point that nobody can possibly beat Ozzy in the F3 challenge?
At the beginning of the episode:
Parvati: We’re the underdogs. We’ve got to fight.
Adam: : I know! We are. We gotta try.
For some reason this reminded me of an episode of ST:TNG where there are a couple of aliens who seem to be morons. ‘We’re smart.’
I agree that Jeff didn’t have to mention the hat. Yul may or may not have mentioned it during that TC. He surely would have mentioned it in the final (assuming he makes it). But at this stage Jeff was just stirring up trouble. That’s his job, of course; but it seemed to be a little too much like the host manipulating the game. Incidentally, Parvati mocked Jonathan during the scene with the dialog I quoted. She and Adam were talking about Jonathan and she smirked and said, ‘I want my hat.’ Obviously neither she nor Adam considered bringing the hat to TC.
Anyway, Yul talked too much. He shouldn’t have admitted that he thought it might influence Jonathan’s vote. I’ve been known to do little things just because they’re considerate things to do, so I would take an anonymous hat-leaving at face value.
Agreed. He could have deflected Jeff by spreading the ‘credit’ around. “Yeah, Jeff, we did bring his hat to him. He asked us to get it for him.”
I think there was a valid point that Parvati was sugaring up to Ozzie quite a bit, and could be considered a threat for him splitting off to form another alliance.
And I am a bit annoyed with how much Jeff is directing the play with the questions he asks at tribal council. The whole pimphatgate thing is a perfect example. If Yul had used his head, he would have said “Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, Jeff. I brought it back because it was the decent thing to do. Since I just left in on the bench, it would have been anonymous. YOU were the one who identified me as the one who left it there.”
Yul reminds me of the villains on Batman. If they would have just gone ahead and killed Batman, they could’ve gotten the job done. But, no, they have to go into long, drawn out spiels describing their motivations, and make the job more complicated than it needs to be, and ultimately fail.
I think that if Ozzie loses a challenge, he is out of there. If he continues to win immunity every time (which is quite likely), I think he’ll walk away with this thing — and deservedly so.
Random thoughts:
If Parvati had really wanted to make things work, she should have gone to Becky and Sundra and said, "Any of us is at a disadvantage to Yul because of the HII, and Ozzy because he’s apparently a cyborg built specifically to win SURVIVOR challenges. We need to eliminate at least one of those disadvantages. She should have suggested that she, Becky, and Sundra vote for Yul, and convince Yul to vote for Adam. Adam, all unknowing, votes for Sundra. Three votes for Yul means his idol burns away. Adam goes home anyway. Now the girls can vote off Yul at the next TC and/or Ozzy next time he doesn’t win, and stand a fair chance of going to an all-female F3.
But Parvati never even considered trying to play the game in any way that didn’t involve taking off her top.
Jonathan rules. He’s so good natured about everything - even about the people who were trashing him. He knows exactly what Yul is doing and doesn’t mind at all. I would love to watch a version of this show where everyone in the game approaches the game the way that Yul and Jonathan did this season. It would be fascinating, and rarely stupid.
Ultimately, I think people are terrified of the HII. Voting for Yul means that someone in the group has to take one for the team (a la Adam in my scenario above), and no one wants to do that. I’m not sure that the best strategy in the world isn’t to announce you have the idol as soon as you find it; no one would ever vote for you.
I was a little disappointed at Yul - seems as tho he is accepting his position, letting it go a little to his head. Telling Adam, “I can make that work,” and then swatting him with a rolled up newspaper for having the temerity to try to play the game. Yul’s classier move would have been to talk to Ozzy, but I guess Adam scampered back into line. And then, yeah, Yul way misplayed the hat thing. Don’t know why he made it into him bringing it instead of the team. Or why he didn’t deflect Jeff’s comments by observing that he placed it down before the jury came out.
When they showed Jonathan, my wife again observed, “He’s such an ass.” I restrained myself from trying to explain why I didn’t agree.
Man, no way I could handle Survivor if I had to snork raw sea critters as Adam was.
An Poverty really thought she had a clever point, repeating that “the odds were in my favor, I guess.”