This is NOT a pitting… but where to put it? I don’t fuck around in GD… the post started here…
My position is that 9) NO, a person has no choice, I’m cannot lie, I don’t belive in the Bible… but perhaps there is some unknown “higher power”.
I can accept that, olivesmarch4th. I’m not that guy.
But I actually DO respect Liberal, and I would appreciate his input on my OP.
edit: I get the feeling mods will take the “not enough vitriol” approach and shove this back to GD, and fair enough. I just wanted his answer to me personally, though, and I did not want to start an debate which has probably been answered several times.
It’s such a pity that people think that way. There are many faiths, many ways faith can be expressed. Yes, there are some bad pastors and some weird congregations and some very nasty people in some of the religions, but to say something like that is to use an excessively simplistic generalization to denigrate millions of people in one fell swoop.
However, my wife’s “pastor” (she was raised baptist, as was I) actually FUCKING TOLD HER THAT HER PARENTS WERE GOING TO HELL, because they merely dropped her off at church, but did not attend.
This, I think, contributes to her current state of fucked-upped-ness.
My mother took me to church maybe twice in my entire life, and she was rather pissed at my aunt who had me baptised without her consent.
Eleusis, you might want to ask the Pit Mods to simply close this thread, then start a new thread that appears to be a bit more coherent.
Liberal’s point #9, (posted when he believed that Quentin S. Smith might be a sock of pseudotriton ruber ruber), asks whether a person is capable of choosing to have belief in a god rather than being compelled by one’s life experiences to believe or to fail to believe. (This is a direct reference to a statement claimed by pseudotriton ruber ruber and challenged by Liberal in an earleir thread.)
Using that as a starting point, as you did, just what question do you wish to ask Liberal or what question do you believe you have answered? It is really unclear from your OP and remains unclear in your subsequent posts.
Every other year, it seems lib talks a bunch of shit for a few months, posting 12 or 14 times a day, and then flames out, talks a bunch of juvenile shit, and leaves like a whiny little bitch.