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Old 04-03-2007, 06:03 AM
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What types of porn are people searching for? [NSFW]

So right when the AOL search data came out, I downloaded it at played around with it for about a week and then promptly forgot about it. One of the searches I remember doing was seeing how often people searched for "x porn" to get an idea of relative fetish frequencies.

Just tonight, I was chatting with a friend and remembered that a couple of fetishes seemed oddly high on the list so I decided to dig out the data again and rerun the analysis. What I found seemed quite odd given the consensus view on human sexuality:

Search for "porn" (fetish searches in bold):

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  12189 porn
   7118 free porn
   2972 porno
   1481 porn.com
   1457 freeporn
    777 pornography
    745 free porno
    720 www.porn.com
    709 teen porn
    691 gay porn
    583 free porn movies
    535 sex.porn com
    530 www.freeporn.com
    529 pornstars
    498 incest porn
    449 free gay porn
    399 freeporn.com
    398 free porn pics
    368 black porn
    358 porn stars
    318 free porn videos
    312 porn sites
    309 www.porn
    309 mature porn
    308 free porn sites
    304 asian porn
    301 cartoon porn
    300 lesbian porn
    285 preteen porn
    285 porncity
    281 teenporn
    276 porn videos
    276 exits.freepornpics.com
    264 porn queens
    260 free porn.com
    257 disney porn
    251 anime porn
    242 adult porn
    236 rape porn
    230 animal porn
    229 free lesbian porn
    226 free teen porn
A search for "sex"

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  11426 sex
   2107 sex positions
   1740 sex toys
   1698 free sex
   1696 sex stories
   1652 sex.com
   1594 free sex stories
   1327 animal sex
   1227 sexy girls
   1221 www.sex.com
   1166 sexual positions
   1142 anal sex
   1127 worldsex.com
   1110 sex offenders
   1033 sexy swimwear
    977 sexy
    755 teen sex
    746 oral sex
    613 sexy women
    606 world sex
    565 teensex
    559 animalsex
Now if you were to ask me before I ran this analysis what the most common fetishes were based on intuition, I would probably have said definitely teen and preteen, lesbian, maybe bondage, gay probably wouldn't have surprised me. What I totally wasn't expecting was that incest and animal sex ranked right up there. It seems our entire societal expectation is that incest and bestiality have always been somewhat fringe activities but the AOL logs show a very different picture to what we are commonly told.

Just as a matter of interest, I ran the top 10 most common queries for gay, teen, incest and animal respectively:

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   1318 gay.com
    954 gay
    691 gay porn
    459 free gay pics
    451 gay sex
    449 free gay porn
    365 www.gay.com
    291 gay men
    246 gay pic
    213 www.blkgaychat.com

   1829 preteen models
    755 teen sex
    744 naked teens
    709 teen porn
    615 nude teens
    578 preteen
    565 teensex
    557 teen chat
    546 teen pussy
    497 teen models

   2071 incest
    594 incest galleries
    498 incest porn
    485 incest stories
    273 incesttaboo
    249 incestart
    189 incest pics
    153 incest sex
    148 free incest stories
    140 prepubescent incest stories

   1327 animal sex
    767 animals
    559 animalsex
    289 sex with animals
    230 animal porn
    203 animal planet
    157 animal pictures
    155 animal shelters
    134 jaguar animal
    131 animal kingdom
It seems pretty clear that, as far as search volume goes, animal sex and incest possibly even exceed all other types of fetishes.

Of course, one alternative explanation is that there are only a few incest or bestiality lovers but they simply do more searches. I'm planning on running another batch of processing tonight to see the number of unique users for these search terms to see if that is the case.

But assuming it's not, what the hell are the implications that arise from this? What if there were more people who were into bestiality than were gay? How does that affect the discussion on gay rights or what are acceptable sexual practices? Why does the gay lobby have so much power compared to the animal lovers lobby if they are comparable in size? Do these people remain in the closet due to the intense social stigma? It's too late for me to even begin to think about what this means but I'd be interested in hearing what you all make of this.

PS: Just noticed that people seemed to expect that gay porn should be free but not incest porn as much... kinda funny
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Old 04-03-2007, 06:57 AM
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I suspect that you'll do better figuring out the numbers by looking up the number of sites that support a particular fetish, rather than the number of searches.

If a fetish is really hard to find, then you have to do more searching to find it, hence you'll get a higher search count. But a porn site can only make as much money as there is demand for that content. So in general, the more demand there is, the more porn sites there will be that are able to stay afloat.

"Incest" porn is relatively common in Japan (going from how many sites (are rumored to) provide it.) Lesbian porn is actually harder to find. But I doubt that that holds true for English language sites from what...is rumored.
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Old 04-03-2007, 07:29 AM
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Old 04-03-2007, 08:02 AM
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But assuming it's not, what the hell are the implications that arise from this? What if there were more people who were into bestiality than were gay?
I'd like to look at the age demographic – when I was a mid teen there were all kinds of rumours about women and donkey’s and such like – the whole Catherine the Great gig.

Legendary stuff, and always just around the corner. Never got to see any, but then we didn’t have the Internet then.

So my hunch is it’s primarily humour/humor based stuff (by maybe young adults – the ‘lads’ culture, for example), with a bit of mid teen over-excitement thrown in.
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Old 04-03-2007, 08:07 AM
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Now if you were to ask me before I ran this analysis what the most common fetishes were based on intuition, I would probably have said definitely teen and preteen, lesbian, maybe bondage, gay probably wouldn't have surprised me. What I totally wasn't expecting was that incest and animal sex ranked right up there. It seems our entire societal expectation is that incest and bestiality have always been somewhat fringe activities but the AOL logs show a very different picture to what we are commonly told.
How common the activities are is a very, very different thing from how common it is to search for them on the Internet.

As an aside: preteen porn would have figured in your top 2 fetish list, but incest surprises you?
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Old 04-03-2007, 08:17 AM
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Anything imaginable, and then some.
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Old 04-03-2007, 08:29 AM
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I think you're biasing the counts by including the word "sex" and "porn". Searchers are probably more likely to include those terms when searching for "incest" or "animal" simply because there are so many non-porn sites associated with those terms. Whereas "bondage" is going to get you a lot of porn sites whether you include the word "porn" or not. Same with "lesbian" and probably "gay" too.

I have the AOL data somewhere... I'll see if I can find it.
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Old 04-03-2007, 09:45 AM
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Also remember that porn sites are part of fantasy life, and as such very different from what people are actually interested in participating in. I sincerely doubt my husband is searching for "routine married sex with my overweight wife" porn, but that's what he enjoys doing in person most often!

A startlingly high number of women have so-called "rape fantasies" (I think they're more accurately termed "consequence-free-sex-with-a-stranger fantasies", but whatever) but I can guarantee that not nearly so many actually want to be raped. And changing public attitudes and policy under that assumption would be very unwise indeed. I can just see the defense now: "Well, your honor, the plaintiff had run 13 Google searches for "rape porn" in the previous week, so it was obvious that my client's raping her was actually fulfilling her fantasy and therefore consensual."
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Old 04-03-2007, 12:09 PM
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I'm a little surprised that wet sex doesn't even make the list at all.
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Old 04-03-2007, 12:17 PM
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I'm a little surprised that wet sex doesn't even make the list at all.
Or chuncky/chubby/fat (whatever its called) porn. It seems I'm always getting junk mail about this...yet it doesn't seem popular, at least wrt what the OP is saying. I'd think, at least in America, it would be, er, hugely popular.

(no idea what the debate is...just thought I'd toss that out)

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Old 04-03-2007, 12:53 PM
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Old 04-03-2007, 01:25 PM
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I'm curious as to how the OP is defining "fetish."
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Old 04-03-2007, 02:40 PM
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I'm curious as to how the OP is defining "fetish."
If it's something I like, it's a 'variation.' If it's something you like, it's a 'kink.' If it's something they like, it's a 'fetish.'

Dunno if that's what the OP meant, but what the hey.
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Old 04-03-2007, 02:45 PM
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You missed one I heard someone talking about the other day....Midget Porn.
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Old 04-03-2007, 02:47 PM
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Heard about. Right.
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Old 04-03-2007, 02:51 PM
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What if there were more people who were into bestiality than were gay? How does that affect the discussion on gay rights or what are acceptable sexual practices? Why does the gay lobby have so much power compared to the animal lovers lobby if they are comparable in size
An animal can't really consent to sex; I'd say that's the main reason why it's wrong. Some behaviors would be immoral no matter how many people fantasized about doing it - rape, for example. So how does this affect the discussion on gay rights? Not at all.
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Old 04-03-2007, 03:20 PM
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What about this title...which caused me to nearly collapse from convulsive laughter?

"Ninety and Naughty"

You should have seen the photo.
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Old 04-03-2007, 03:38 PM
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There's also this guy he knows who had to go to the emergency room to get a Mason jar removed from his rectum. This other guy, who totally isn't him.
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Old 04-03-2007, 03:56 PM
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No wonder the Mason's keep quiet about their ceremonies.
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Old 04-03-2007, 04:48 PM
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I know a couple people in the phone sex industry and they say 90% of their calls involve anal sex.

As far as a fetish calls, one has a number of foot fetish calls and one has a client who is a macrophile, but they say it's pretty much all anal all the time. Maybe there are call centers for specialty work.

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Old 04-03-2007, 05:00 PM
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If this is some sort of poll, put me down for D/s and lots of lesbians. Latex ain't bad either.

Thank you.

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Old 04-03-2007, 06:35 PM
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Or chuncky/chubby/fat (whatever its called) porn. It seems I'm always getting junk mail about this...yet it doesn't seem popular, at least wrt what the OP is saying. I'd think, at least in America, it would be, er, hugely popular.

(no idea what the debate is...just thought I'd toss that out)

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well of course, if it's being sent to your mailbox, why would you need to search for it?
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Old 04-03-2007, 08:02 PM
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What about this title...which caused me to nearly collapse from convulsive laughter?

"Ninety and Naughty"

You should have seen the photo.
No, I shouldn't have. Trust me on this.

(Where's that 'barf' smiley when you need one?)

When I'm 90, I hope I'm still a horny old goat, but I sure wouldn't want to see pix of me in action at that age.
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Old 04-03-2007, 08:08 PM
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well of course, if it's being sent to your mailbox, why would you need to search for it?
lol...well, thats probably a good point at that. However, those who like that kind of thing and are not as fortunate as I to have to constantly put in their junk mail folder may still need to do some kind of search I would assume.


IS this a poll?

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Old 04-03-2007, 09:18 PM
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With all these people looking for "teen porn" and "teen sex" I guess there must be a lot of twenty year old women feeling desperate and lonely now that their peak years are past. Ladies, I feel your pain. Call me.

This offer is open to women over twenty as well.
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Old 04-03-2007, 09:52 PM
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Old 04-03-2007, 10:49 PM
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So where's the hobbit porn?!
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Old 04-03-2007, 10:55 PM
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Well, one thing that seems pretty clear from those stats is that whatever form of entertainment people want to find online, they want it "free". THAT bit should surprise absolutely noone.
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Old 04-03-2007, 11:02 PM
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So where's the hobbit porn?!
I do remember reading in a thread of porno movies names about The Lord of the G-string

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0323108/
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Old 04-03-2007, 11:55 PM
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Or chuncky/chubby/fat (whatever its called) porn. It seems I'm always getting junk mail about this...yet it doesn't seem popular, at least wrt what the OP is saying. I'd think, at least in America, it would be, er, hugely popular.

(no idea what the debate is...just thought I'd toss that out)

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Old 04-04-2007, 12:38 AM
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I think "BBW" is the phrase/category.
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Old 04-04-2007, 04:59 AM
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An animal can't really consent to sex; I'd say that's the main reason why it's wrong. Some behaviors would be immoral no matter how many people fantasized about doing it - rape, for example. So how does this affect the discussion on gay rights? Not at all.
This is a hijack, but so what about the consent when it's an animal? We can already hitch it to a plough or a cart, or ride it over fences, or steal its fur or its milk, or cage it and make it run its reproductive cycle once a day just so we can eat the product, or feed it medicines that we're debugging, or kill it for meat or hide or fun, all without its consent, so why choke on the gnat when it comes to fucking it? Very properly we consider consent to be paramount when it's a matter of human rights, but it's bizarre to even think it applies to an animal.
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Old 04-04-2007, 08:08 AM
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This is a hijack, but so what about the consent when it's an animal? We can already hitch it to a plough or a cart, or ride it over fences, or steal its fur or its milk, or cage it and make it run its reproductive cycle once a day just so we can eat the product, or feed it medicines that we're debugging, or kill it for meat or hide or fun, all without its consent, so why choke on the gnat when it comes to fucking it? Very properly we consider consent to be paramount when it's a matter of human rights, but it's bizarre to even think it applies to an animal.
[sarcasm on] Because sex is DIfferent. Sex is BEAUTIFUL and MAGICAL and an EXPRESSION OF LOOOOOOOOOVE! [/sarcasm off. . . maybe]
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Old 04-04-2007, 09:54 AM
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More people by far search for preteen models than teen porn...

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Old 04-04-2007, 10:03 AM
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Isn't that illegal? How can websites advertise such stuff? (I'm a bit out of things here)

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Old 04-04-2007, 10:37 AM
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I suspect that you'll do better figuring out the numbers by looking up the number of sites that support a particular fetish, rather than the number of searches.
It turns out, there are very few sites that support the underage stuff. It seems like a lot at first but they all end you up in the same couple of sites, all Eastern European or Russian. The number of searches for teen porn should be taken with a grain of salt because the results are not only liable to get you anything, including 90-yr-olds, but the definition of "teen" seems to stretch to nearly thirty. Even the ones guaranteeing real teens are loaded with disclaimers that all of the models were at least 18 when their pictures were taken.

Disclaimer: The creepy, underage junk is not to my taste. I was doing REAL research for a friend who was writing a novel that has a publisher and a release date and can be sent through the mail without a plain, brown wrapper. And my research was limited to free sites in English I could get to fairly easily because, when the pay for all my work, viral damage to my system, and personal damage to my reputation is a free copy of the book ("But it will be autographed!"), there are limits to what I'm willing to do.
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Old 04-04-2007, 12:17 PM
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With all these people looking for "teen porn" and "teen sex" I guess there must be a lot of twenty year old women feeling desperate and lonely now that their peak years are past. Ladies, I feel your pain. Call me.

This offer is open to women over twenty as well.
Maybe they're holding out for someone who doesn't have the word "little" as part of his name.
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Old 04-04-2007, 12:59 PM
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the definition of "teen" seems to stretch to nearly thirty
I think that "teen" mostly just means "hasn't had a boob job."
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Old 04-04-2007, 01:16 PM
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This is a hijack, but so what about the consent when it's an animal? We can already hitch it to a plough or a cart, or ride it over fences, or steal its fur or its milk, or cage it and make it run its reproductive cycle once a day just so we can eat the product, or feed it medicines that we're debugging, or kill it for meat or hide or fun, all without its consent, so why choke on the gnat when it comes to fucking it? Very properly we consider consent to be paramount when it's a matter of human rights, but it's bizarre to even think it applies to an animal.
I suppose all of those things are immoral.
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Old 04-04-2007, 03:44 PM
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I think that "teen" mostly just means "hasn't had a boob job."
That strikes me as the most profound explanation I've ever seen on the subject. Well done sir.
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Old 04-04-2007, 03:56 PM
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Old 04-04-2007, 06:16 PM
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See, I thought teenage poultry porn would be much higher.
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Old 04-04-2007, 07:03 PM
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What about this title...which caused me to nearly collapse from convulsive laughter?

"Ninety and Naughty"

You should have seen the photo.

Meh, that's nothing. Try doing a search for "pornosaurus". It's both really really bad and really really funny at the same time.
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Old 04-05-2007, 05:47 AM
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I think also the number of searches are heavily biased against what people seek regularly.

The following is a gross oversimplification but is perhaps illustrative: let's say I like plain boy-and-girl-fuck porn.

I do one search. I obtain a zillion url's. I try a few of them. I find several sites with regularly updated material. I go back to them time and time again over a period of (say) a year before I get completely bored and do another search.

One time in that year, because I am a curious teenager, I type "animal porn" into a search engine. I check out a few of the hits, gross myself out, sate my curiousity and never go back.

Your stats would show me as liking animal porn as much as straight porn. But clearly, that is an utterly inaccurate picture.

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Old 04-05-2007, 06:48 AM
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Hmm, this is AOL. I think they search for different things than people using google.
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Old 04-05-2007, 11:15 AM
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I think that "teen" mostly just means "hasn't had a boob job."
From the stretch marks it doesn't seem to mean "isn't a mother of four."
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Old 04-05-2007, 11:59 AM
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Dave Barry once wrote that sex is so omnipresent on the Web that if you did a search for "Porn about having sex with goats that are on fire," before long you'll get an automated message asking you to clarify, "What kind of goats?"
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Old 04-05-2007, 01:23 PM
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I think that "teen" mostly just means "hasn't had a boob job."
You forgot "and has hair in pigtails."
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Old 04-05-2007, 01:24 PM
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Dave Barry once wrote that sex is so omnipresent on the Web that if you did a search for "Porn about having sex with goats that are on fire," before long you'll get an automated message asking you to clarify, "What kind of goats?"
The sexy kind.


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Old 04-05-2007, 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Little Nemo
With all these people looking for "teen porn" and "teen sex" I guess there must be a lot of twenty year old women feeling desperate and lonely now that their peak years are past.
Not really. If you just go looking for "porn", you're going to end up with a lot of sites featuring women with the traditional "porn star" look: huge, fake tits, big hair, and way too much makeup. Some of us don't find that appealing at all; some of us like smaller breasts and a more natural look. The stuff typically classified as "teen porn" generally features the smaller-breasted, more natural models who don't look like "porn stars" - in other words, girls you might actually meet in real life. And they're "teens" only by virtue of some of them being 18 or 19. The "teen" porn models usually fall between the ages of 18 and 25.
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