Is pissing in public (as in behind some bushes) such a bad thing??

[MarcinCiez]

This is in regards to this news-worthy story, sarcasm intended.

I mean, what guy has never peed in public after having a few drings with friends... if you gotta go, you gotta go. LOL, even at home I sometimes can't be bothered to go inside the house and I'll just relieve myself against the fence.

Anyway... is this really that bad??? Am I just weird??

[mswas]

Originally Posted by MarcinCiez

This is in regards to this news-worthy story, sarcasm intended.

I mean, what guy has never peed in public after having a few drings with friends... if you gotta go, you gotta go. LOL, even at home I sometimes can't be bothered to go inside the house and I'll just relieve myself against the fence.

Anyway... is this really that bad??? Am I just weird??

I don't think it's that bad personally. Personally I don't think restaurants and bars should even be allowed to have a 'for customers only' policy for bathrooms particularly when there is no public alternative.

[Johnny L.A.]

When you gotta go, you gotta go. And if you don't go, when you go to go you find out you've already gone.

If you make an effort to maintain some decorum; i.e., concealing yourself behind some bushes or a dumpster, I'd call it good. If you do not conceal yourself well enough, so that someone can casually snap a photo of you in flagrante delicto -- especially if you are a 'personality' -- then you get what you get.

As for home, I should think that the toilet isn't that far away. (Although I did make a salesman urinate in the bushes, as he was very anxious to get inside of my home and I had made it abundantly clear before he came over that he would not be allowed inside of the house.)

When I was training, my instructor had me land the helicopter in a field while he stepped outside for a leak. I should have switch the mic. to PTT instead of leaving it hot. Not that there was anything to hear, but it just seemed weird to me.

[bannerrefugee]

It’s not that bad at all-unless you play rugby. Then you better keep it in your pants.

[Ferret Herder]

If enough people piss in a non-toilet area, then it tends to reek like piss. Examples I remember well include the stairwells of parking garages. On a hot day, that's especially awful.

Plus anyone with an interest in keeping their lawn looking nice knows that too much urine tends to "burn" (brown) the grass.

On the "plus" side, drunken public urinators can be funny. A house across the street was having a teenage house party, and a guy came outside to pee behind a tree. "Behind" being identified by him as between the house and him. He picked one in their front yard, near the street, visible to us across the way and anyone passing by.

[Johnny L.A.]

Originally Posted by bannerrefugee

It’s not that bad at all-unless you play rugby. Then you better keep it in your pants.

Or hope there's no one with a camera.

http: //www.hilaryshepherd.com/rantsnraves/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/soccer-pee.jpg

(Link broken -- NSFW)

[MarcinCiez]

Originally Posted by bannerrefugee

It’s not that bad at all-unless you play rugby. Then you better keep it in your pants.

that made me laugh :P

PS... you're from Toowong... hey... I work here - Corronation Place on Benson st

[MarcinCiez]

Originally Posted by Johnny L.A.

Or hope there's no one with a camera.

http: //www.hilaryshepherd.com/rantsnraves/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/soccer-pee.jpg

(Link broken -- NSFW)

HA... that IS a skill... one time I tried that, in an effort to be less spicuous, I wet my pants

[Napier]

FWIW in Munich city parks it seems permissible to go pee in the trees. People lie about in the grass sunbathing nude. I think there may be some American prudery and somehow conflating urination with forbidden sex driving some of the upset here.

[Odesio]

An isolated case of public urination isn't a big deal. It becomes a problem when a lot of people start urinating on a regular basis in an area and makes everything reek.

Odesio

[Frank]

Originally Posted by Napier

I think there may be some American prudery and somehow conflating urination with forbidden sex driving some of the upset here.

In general, my understanding is that pissing in public is charged as indecent exposure, which does, in general, require one to register as a sex offender.

[Bruce Wayne]

No, its not that bad. Its not even bad. Just don't let kids see you, else you'll end up on the sex offender registry, if all goes wrong.

[FoieGrasIsEvil]

Originally Posted by Napier

FWIW in Munich city parks it seems permissible to go pee in the trees. People lie about in the grass sunbathing nude. I think there may be some American prudery and somehow conflating urination with forbidden sex driving some of the upset here.

I vaguely recall when I was stationed in Germany in the early 1990's that German law said that public urination, even on the side of the road, was OK as long as the pissee was facing away from public view and attempting to be discreet.

I may be wrong. Of course random drunks just whipping it out and pissing anywhere is wrong, but I don't see much harm in going into the bushes if that's what nature dictates, whether you're drinking alcohol or not. Humans have probably been doing that forever.

[MarcinCiez]

Off topic on my own thread... but to show that at least our government cares about our bladders

[bannerrefugee]

Originally Posted by FoieGrasIsEvil

I vaguely recall when I was stationed in Germany in the early 1990's that German law said that public urination, even on the side of the road, was OK as long as the pissee was facing away from public view and attempting to be discreet.

I may be wrong. Of course random drunks just whipping it out and pissing anywhere is wrong, but I don't see much harm in going into the bushes if that's what nature dictates, whether you're drinking alcohol or not. Humans have probably been doing that forever.

I don't know about the law, but the Germans I know are more permissive of this sort of thing.

[Johnny L.A.]

Heute urinieren wir in Deutschland. Morgen die Welt!

Today ve piss in Germany. Tomorrow, ze vorld!

[CyclopticXander]

Oh gosh I never thought I'd spend so much time considering this issue, but here are some reasonable parameters.

- Do it only in the event of a fairly serious emergency with absolutely no immediate access to a proper facility.

- Go out of your way to assure you are not seen by anyone at all.

- Do not go on anything particularly beautiful or decorative, public parks should pretty much be off limits

- Prevention is key! Go before you leave or don't drink a gallon if you know you will likely be separated from a restroom for a while

- Don't make a habit of it er 'nuthin!

I really don't know how you could begrudge any poor soul who follows these basic rules of consideration. Unless someone tried to make a slippery slope type of argument, in which case they probably take themselves kinda seriously on a lot of matters.

I have no qualms about admitting it's happened to me a time or two, stuff happens.

[bengangmo]

I guess if its good enuf for a prince, then it should be ok for the rest of us..

http: //www.celebitchy.com/23123/prince_william_photographed_peeing_on_a_fence_in_all_his_glory/ (NSFW link broken)

ETA - how many guys here have never taken a leak outside?

[Mops]

Originally Posted by FoieGrasIsEvil

I vaguely recall when I was stationed in Germany in the early 1990's that German law said that public urination, even on the side of the road, was OK as long as the pissee was facing away from public view and attempting to be discreet. ...

Don't know about an actual law (the statute will not be as specific as that), but public urination is conceptualized as a pollution issue not an indecency issue in Germany.

[Napier]

"In public" has quite some range to it. Hiking in the woods for hours practically forces one to piss in public, unless you own enough private woods to hike through for hours.

[Weird With Words]

It's just another example of something that isn't particularly wrong, under most circumstances, but still needs to be illegal for obvious reasons.

[PatriotGrrrl]

I have no problem with it, except in enclosed areas like stairwells and pedestrian tunnels where it's going to smell.

[Musicat]

Originally Posted by Johnny L.A.

Heute urinieren wir in Deutschland. Morgen die Welt!

Today ve piss in Germany. Tomorrow, ze vorld!

Reminds me of a cartoon showing three dogs in front of a house with a For Sale/Sold sign. The agent dog says to the buyer dogs, "Well, the down payment has cleared and the paperwork is filed -- as soon as you pee on the lawn, the place is yours."

[Odesio]

Originally Posted by bengangmo

ETA - how many guys here have never taken a leak outside?

Other than the woods I haven't. Uh, not counting when I was 4 or 5 and pissed outside. I did this because had I come inside to do so my mother would have said "Ok, you've been out long enough. Time to stay inside for a while."


Odesio

[Guinastasia]

Just don't be like my uncle and get a bad case of the runs after a Steelers game and be forced to go behind the dumpsters...

[DrDeth]

Originally Posted by Ferret Herder

If enough people piss in a non-toilet area, then it tends to reek like piss. Examples I remember well include the stairwells of parking garages. On a hot day, that's especially awful.

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Or the entire Tenderloin district of SF. Seriously. If you must, then at least try to get the urine into a planted area.

[DrDeth]

Originally Posted by Frank

In general, my understanding is that pissing in public is charged as indecent exposure, which does, in general, require one to register as a sex offender.

Got a cite here? I read in the paper a while ago that one city in CA found out it didn't have a law against it, and thus guys couldn;t be arrested. CA does have an indecent exposure law 314 but it requires "314. Every person who willfully and lewdly, either:

1. Exposes his person, or the private parts thereof, in any
public place, or in any place where there are present other persons
to be offended or annoyed thereby; or,

Bolding mine.

Now, sure, cops have arrested dudes for 314 for public urination.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...9232714AAW20dO

[FoieGrasIsEvil]

Originally Posted by Guinastasia

Just don't be like my uncle and get a bad case of the runs after a Steelers game and be forced to go behind the dumpsters...

Serves him right for being a Steelers fan!

[bufftabby]

I'm a girl, and I've been known to pee in all sorts of strange places. But I never do it anywhere that it could actually cause a problem/smell/etc for anyone else. I've even done it in the middle of the road.

[MarcinCiez]

Originally Posted by bengangmo

I guess if its good enuf for a prince, then it should be ok for the rest of us..

http: //www.celebitchy.com/23123/prince_william_photographed_peeing_on_a_fence_in_all_his_glory/ (NSFW link broken)

ETA - how many guys here have never taken a leak outside?

Sorry.. I found this link (actually, the link to the actual photos) quite interesting, and had to start another thread, as it was going away from this discussion.

[mswas]

Originally Posted by CyclopticXander

- Do not go on anything particularly beautiful or decorative, public parks should pretty much be off limits

This makes no sense since Public Parks are the most natural environments in an urban setting.

[MOIDALIZE]

If my aunt is to be believed, she says people in Beijing drop deuces in the park.

[Daylate]

Back in the early 70's I spent some time in Lagos, Nigeria doing preliminary design on a bridge project. No jetways at Lagos International, wo we were all bused from the plane to the terminal. First sign I saw in Lagos was a HUGE one, just as we were debussing.

"DO NOT URINATE AGAINST THIS BUILDING!"

So we didn't.

[Johnny L.A.]

Don't Whiz On The Electric Fence

[billfish678]

Originally Posted by MOIDALIZE

If my aunt is to be believed, she says people in Beijing drop deuces in the park.

You gotta know when hold em...know when to fold em....know when to walk away...know when to run...

[Cat Fight]

If it's an emergency, okay. But if you just can't bother to hold it in a little longer or don't have the foresight to whiz before you leave a bar or house... well, it really doesn't put you much above a dog. Even toddlers can hold it in while Mom or Dad looks for a washroom.

[CutterJohn]

Pissing(and shitting) is permissible on any patch of dirt of decent size. On concrete, less so, as concrete won't soak it up, and there are few microorganisms on concrete that will break it down, leading to a nasty piss smell. Inside, pissing is only ok in specialized receptacles unless the emergency is dire.

It is also ok into any natural body of water. Not ok for swimming pools.

And being placed on a sex offender registry for performing a natural bodily function is a travesty. If you are standing in front of a pre school playground waving it at the kids, sure, thats no good. If its behind a bush at the edge of a park, or behind a dumpster somewhere, then no.. the worst that should be considered to be is a minor misdemeanor like a parking ticket.

[Johanna]

In India I saw many walls along streets with a cryptic message written in big letters:

DONT PASS YOUR IN HERE

Men could be seen regularly standing directly under this admonition, drenching the wall quite unconcernedly.

The message could only hope to get across to the subset of men who could read English. Let alone the puzzling ambiguity of the text.
Don't pass (by, stick around, because) your inn (lodging is) here.
Don't pass (no soccer plays here), you're in here (you couldn't be in anywhere else at the moment).
Don't pass (i.e. be taken as a member of a group you really don't belong to; you don't have to, because) you're in here (you're already accepted into the clique).

[Gyrate]

Pissing on buildings not only smells but, if done on a regular basis, erodes the brickwork. It was such a problem in the West End of London that Westminster Council have installed on-street urinals.

I haven't felt the need to use them myself but have seen others using them and they are quite discreet (unless, I assume, someone steps away before zipping).

[Nars Glinley]

In Oklahoma, it is labeled Outraging Public Decency and is a misdemeanor. Blake Griffin, our future #1 NBA pick, got a ticket for it.

[Chessic Sense]

Originally Posted by CyclopticXander

I really don't know how you could begrudge any poor soul who follows these basic rules of consideration. Unless someone tried to make a slippery slope

Well, that can only happen if it's below freezing outside anyway.

Originally Posted by DrDeth

Or the entire Tenderloin district of SF.

Heh.

Originally Posted by Johanna

In India I saw many walls along streets with a cryptic message written in big letters:

DONT PASS YOUR IN HERE

You realize it says "Don't pass urine here", right?

[DrDeth]

Originally Posted by CutterJohn

Pissing(and shitting) is permissible on any patch of dirt of decent size.
It is also ok into any natural body of water.

No, it's not OK to shit into a natural body of water. That spreads diseases.

[WOOKINPANUB]

Originally Posted by Cat Fight

If it's an emergency, okay. But if you just can't bother to hold it in a little longer or don't have the foresight to whiz before you leave a bar or house... well, it really doesn't put you much above a dog. Even toddlers can hold it in while Mom or Dad looks for a washroom.

Well said. How often is it really an "emergency"? I think lots of men do it because they can and that is frankly not a man I want to be around.

[Broomstick]

Originally Posted by CyclopticXander

- Prevention is key! Go before you leave or don't drink a gallon if you know you will likely be separated from a restroom for a while

Go before you leave, ay?

I did that once, peed before I left - before getting stuck for over four hours in a traffic jam from hell on the Damn Ryan expressway. Let's see... I can cross 6 lanes of traffic that way and climb up a concrete wall then cross another two lanes of frontage road and piss in the bushes over there... or cross 3 lanes of traffic that way and piss on the third rail of the south end of the Red Line El. Hmm.... decisions, decisions...

I pissed in a half crumpled paper coffee cup and dumped it out the door onto the pavement. A further annoyance was that the capacity of my bladder exceeded that of the damaged cup by a factor of 3 or 4. The only thing worse than desperately trying to hold it in is having to stop pissing and hold it again until you get the cup emptied and can start filling it again.

No, there wasn't a discrete way to exit the vehicle and "whip it out" - I'm a girl, shorts around my ankles just isn't that discrete.

I guess my point is that if you HAVE TO go in public be absolutely as discrete and unobtrusive as possible.

Also, for some reason I felt compelled to share that story.

[Ann Hedonia]

Originally Posted by Cat Fight

If it's an emergency, okay. But if you just can't bother to hold it in a little longer or don't have the foresight to whiz before you leave a bar or house... well, it really doesn't put you much above a dog. Even toddlers can hold it in while Mom or Dad looks for a washroom.

Reminds me of a time I was stuck in a traffic jam. Not even a jam really, a highway had flooded out, closing the road and people were stuck..........for hours.

After about hour 3 I saw both driver's side doors open and an older woman got out of the front passenger seat, walked around the car and stood between the two doors. Then she squatted, I see from under the door pants around the ankles then the telltale yellow stream.

Then she arranged herself and walked around the car and got back in, looking a little embarrassed. I really felt for her, she had probably never had to do anything like that before.

[Daylate]

Was stuck in a 3 hour wait to get across the Canadian Border at Blaine, Washington. Some of the adjoining fields were dotted with large bushes, etc. Noticed quite a few folks, particularly with kids, exit their cars, disappear behind a bush, and shortly reappear looking much happier.

Seems that if the Gov't is really worried about that ( and a 2 - 3 hour wait at Blaine is not all that uncommon) they could provide some Porta Potties spaced out at intervals. Although this alfresco arrangement did seem to be working pretty well.

[MarcinCiez]

Originally Posted by Gyrate

It was such a problem in the West End of London that Westminster Council have installed on-street urinals.

What a great idea!!

[Jackmannii]

Originally Posted by WOOKINPANUB

I think lots of men do it because they can and that is frankly not a man I want to be around.

Sounds like lyrics from a country song.

Originally Posted by bufftabby

I've been known to pee in all sorts of strange places

Yep, definitely.

I guess it was inevitable that a poster would show up to decry laws against public urination as an example of Americans being too straitlaced about sex.

Piss on that, I say.