Guy's girlfriend agrees to marry but claims not to be in love. Should he rescind proposal?

Sunday morning = a Rhymer hypotethical. Except of course when it doesn’t.

Today’s story stars Don, a character from a previous hypthetical of mine. He was the nerdy guy afraid to ask out his cute classmate, Jenny, only to have her get tired of watiing for him and ask out his studly best friend, Dave, instead. Now it’s twenty years later. Dave and Jenny have long since married; they are Don’s best friends. As a few people predicted in the other thread, Don has done extremely well in life, at least financially. But for all that he’s spent most of his life alone; by the time he was over his crippling shyness, he was too involved in his career to take time for women. Now, in hislate 30s, he’s a bit adrift. Though he lives modestly (never having been interested in bling), he in fact has far more money to than he knows what to do with. Once he’s made his fortune he dates a a bit, but every woman he goes out with, it seems, is only interested in being the wife of a rich man. One suggests that, if they ever marry, of course they’ll have to move into a mansion; another insists on expensive gifts before she’ll consent to sex; a third is fond of suggesting month-long Paris vacations; and so forth.

That changed at Dave’s 40th birthday part, when Don met Mary. Mary is about ten years younger than Don; she works for Jenny and is quite beautiful. Don & Mary get along swimmingly at the party and start dating shortly afterwards. After about three months they begin dating exclusively. Long before then Don is sure he’s in love; he’s ready to pop the question six months into the affair, but on the advice of Dave & Jenny he waits. The former wants Don to be sure that Mary is interested in more than his bank account; the latter doesn’t want him to scare her off.

A year after he & Mary start dating, Don is in a car accident and nearly dies. He’s unconscious for days and in the hosptial for weeks. Mary is there every day, not just while he is conscious but before that as well; both Dave and Jenny attest to this. When he’s released she takes him home and she takes on much of the burden of caring for him through rehab. She never asks if he wants her help; she just does it; and without her emotional and practical support,

Months later Don is healthy again, and as one might imagine more in love with Mary than ever. One night they go out to dinner. Producing a diamond ring commensurate with his huge bank account, he tells Mary that she is the woman he’s been waiting for all his life. He’s never loved anyone as much as he loves her, and the past several months have made it clear that she’s interested in him for more than his bank account. “I love you, Mary,” he says. “Will you marry me?”

Mary hesitates for a long moment. Finally she says this:

“I want to say yes, Don. But I have to tell you this first, so you can decide whether you really want me to. You’re my best friend. I care for you a lot. But I can’t say I feel about you the way you feel about me. I just can’t say those words. I don’t care about your money now, but I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t thinking it would be nice to marry a rich man when you first asked me out. And I just can’t say those words you just said to me. I don’t think I’m capable of saying that or feeling that. I’ll say yes if you want me to, but I need to know first that you’re okay with that reality. Can you please think things over and ask me again tomorrow?”

Stunned, Don agrees. The next day he sees Dave & Jenny, tells them what happened, and asks their advice. What do you think they should say?

I don’t think there is a better or worse course of action to take here. It’s entirely up to Don. If Mary is happy either marrying him or not marrying him - and you seem to be suggesting that she would indeed be - then he needs to decide for himself if he can deal with marrying the woman who calls him a best friend instead of the love of her life. Especially considering his age, when many marriages will fall apart because friendship is exactly what they lack, it’s not a bad deal. But Don has to decide for himself if that’s okay.

I don’t get why she’d be with him in the first place, much less would agree to marry him, if she isn’t into him and she isn’t into his money. Because she likes him as a “friend?” That doesn’t sound very realistic to me.

Obviously, Don should not marry somebody and mortgage half his fortune to a person who says she doesn’t love him. Of couse not. How would that be functionally any different from marrying a gold digger? Atr least a gold digger would put out. It sounds like this one is setting him up for separate bedrooms.

I thought the OP indicated that they were having sex already, since they’ve been dating exclusively for over a year at the time of the proposal. Looking it over again I can see that I didn’t quite say so, but cetainly I meant to.

It’s my own fault for hitting submit earlier than I meant to.

ETA: One thing I did successfully and intentionally put into the OP was Mary’s dialogue. She doesn’t say she doesn’t love him. She says that she can’t say she loves him, and that she doesn’t think she’s capable of feeling it, which is not quite the same thing. People can be self-deceived, after all.

Why is she having sex with him if she isn’t interested in him?

Pity sex.

Don should go ahead and marry her. You aren’t going to do any better, and she clearly cares for him.

I’ve had sex with women I had no long-term interest in. I’ve had sex with women I would never marry. And I’m entirely certain that I’ve had sex with women who would never have married me.

But I thought the point was that she doesn’t care for him. Plus, he can do better. If he doesn’t care about being loved back, he can do six hot gold diggers at a time.

Where does the sixth one go?

She explicitly says that she does care for him.

“I want to say yes, Don. But I have to tell you this first, so you can decide whether you really want me to. You’re my best friend. I care for you a lot. But I can’t say I feel about you the way you feel about me. I just can’t say those words. I don’t care about your money now, but I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t thinking it would be nice to marry a rich man when you first asked me out. And I just can’t say those words you just said to me. I don’t think I’m capable of saying that or feeling that. I’ll say yes if you want me to, but I need to know first that you’re okay with that reality. Can you please think things over and ask me again tomorrow?”

Also there is no point to seven-ways. Unless you’re in a polyamorous marriage or something and this is how you welcome the new guy. :wink:

But that’s the point, isn’t it? You wouldn’t marry them.

I don’t really understand the scenario you’re setting up here. You want it to be so that they’re good friends, mutually sexually attracted and compatible (I assume), mutually respectful and caring and yet she lacks…what…what component of “love” is lacking, and if it’s lacking, why would she agree to marry him? becauyse she cares about him so much as a friend is not a credible answer. Who does that? Nobody does that. Moreover, if she doesn’t love him, she would be unhappy in a marriage and Don should be cognizant of that as well.

If I heard this stiory from a friend, I would think it was a gold digger who was setting him up for separate bedrooms after the papers were signed. I think it’s close to a sure thing that she’ll end up cheating on him and leaving him (with half his money) anyway.

Incidentaly, a good friend would just say, “no, I’m not in love with you,” not give this “I don’t love you, but I’ll do it if you really want me to” jerk around. Don should go find a swimsuit model.

Mary loves him, whether she thinks she does or says the word or not. Her actions after his accident prove it. It may not be the “Romeo & Julliet” fairy tale kind of love, but it’s real. If he’s bound and determined to commit matrimony, she’s a good choice. I say go forward with the deal.

That’s a contradiction to saying she doesn’t love him.

I don’t understand this. The point of a seven-way is to have a seven-way. What does marriage have to do with it (and there would never, ever be another dude involved)?

Why on Earth would she do that? She ahd the freaking ring in hand. Why would she risk having the proposal rescinded when she could as easily accept the proposal, marry him, and then move to separate bedrooms (presumably after consummating the marriage)?

Her actions don’t make any sense for a gold-digger.

Then why does she say she doesn’t love him? Is she lying? Obviously something is missing on her part (though Skaldy does load the hypothetical so that it’s hard to know what that is).

Her actions don’t make sense for any real human being. I told you I didn’t find your hypothetical to be realistic. Why would she marry him and sleep with him if she didn’t love him and didn’t care about his money?

Why exactly doesn’t she love him? What’s missing? You can’t set it up so that everything is perfect excpet she says she doesn’t love him. Obviously if she’s telling him she doesn’t love him then everything is not perfect.

I suspect it’s because she thinks of love in the fairy tale sense, rather than the practical one.

Sorry Skaldy, but not only doesn’t this make any sense for a gold digger, this is one of your hypotheticals that doesn’t really make any sense on any level.

Why would a woman who cares for a man as a best friend but doesn’t really love him go to all that trouble after the accident when she doesn’t care about his money either?

She’s in love with him, full stop. And since she can’t say it, probably has some kind of mental disease too.

ETA: Also, I agree completely with this…

Yeah, sounds like it’s a “I love* you, but I’m not in love with you” situation. The problem could be that she might get completely infatuated with some other guy and think, hey, I guess this is what love is - and take off with him. It depends on how mature she is.

She was expecting fireworks and fairy tales and being completely enthralled by the guy, and it didn’t work that way.

*Read: I care deeply for you, the sex is fun, and you’re important in my life.

This is just begging the question. What’s missing?