Eureka is back! (for now)

[Moonlitherial]

So I watched the season premier and then this week's episode and other than the fact that they killed off



Shesh stop mousing over to see!

SPOILER:

Holly!

I'm loving it so far. The worst part of the whole experience is the knowledge that this is the last season. I'm glad they're getting to finish the story but I'm going to miss this little town.

[simster]

I personally thought that spoiler was a dick move and has ruined the show as far as I am concerned - it had better payoff.

[Lute Skywatcher]

Perhaps Fargo or somebody will end up reassigned to South Dakota.

[Fair Rarity]

I LOVED the first episode. I did NOT see that coming, even though I probably should have. Great episode, even without the twist.

The 2nd one bored me and I'm already sick of the whole real/not real thing. I don't think the dead character is really dead. Beverly looked like "Senator, just wait till your back is turned, 'cause Ima gonna do what I gots to do."

[silenus]

If she really is dead, so is this show to me.

[enalzi]

I'm kinda surprised at such the strong reaction, seeing as she's only been on the show for 10 episodes. Hell, Deputy Andy has been around for longer. I wonder if she'll stick around as an NPC in the virtual world.

Anyway, I really like this season so far. I'm happy they're showing both Eurekas. I was worried that the season would be stuck in the virtual Eureka. It's pretty obvious that those characters aren't "ours." I would hate to go without seeing the real Jack, Jo, and Henry.

[GuanoLad]

I don't understand why they're willing to kill people to keep this operation a secret, when they have hundreds of crew wandering around haphazardly.

[simster]

I don't understand why they 'need' our people -

Lets see -

They created/developed the tech to steal the ship
THey created the tech to run a virtual holodeck in the minds of those people, all networked.
Last seasion, they had a cloaking device around a freaking building.

Secondly, if you want to keep your captives happy - you don't have the NPC lovers love someone else - especially the x-lovers of the lovers.

[Moonlitherial]

Originally Posted by simster

I don't understand why they 'need' our people -

Lets see -

They created/developed the tech to steal the ship
THey created the tech to run a virtual holodeck in the minds of those people, all networked.
Last seasion, they had a cloaking device around a freaking building.

Secondly, if you want to keep your captives happy - you don't have the NPC lovers love someone else - especially the x-lovers of the lovers.

I think the breaking up of the relationships was supposed to keep them from needing to have the deep conversations were huge gaps in knowledge would be obvious.

[simster]

Originally Posted by Moonlitherial

I think the breaking up of the relationships was supposed to keep them from needing to have the deep conversations were huge gaps in knowledge would be obvious.

So, you have carter 'gone' - point is you don't introduce -more- conflict that the AI has to then create/solve.

Jo was gone on her walkabout - she just never returns - etc...

[GythaOgg]

I'm not really enjoying the show the last season or two. The writing's gotten increasingly lazy, and it's deteriorated to the point where the special effects are driving the plot rather than vice-versa. Suddenly, EVERY episode has to be a major 'all new! topping ourselves! You won't believe it!' twist instead of just concentrating on solid storytelling.

They changed the timeline completely a season or two back and they've done next-to-nothing with that opportunity. Kevin - who was an early and interesting portrayal of an autistic child on television (anticipating the current trend), is now just an ordinary, boring, generic teen. We got an entire repeat of the Jo/Zane romance (basically already covered in seasons two and three - why did they need to cover this ground all over again?) Allison's characterization's been blown out of the water - she's unrecognizable. I'm starting to think the writing team (which was largely new) introduced the new timeline so they would have an excuse not to familiarize themselves with the show's previously established timeline and characterizations.

There's also been a lot said in recent publicity interviews that they're going to go 'really dark' this season with the plots and themes. I'm so not interested in that. And judging by some of the reaction on Twitter - a lot of people aren't. I'm sure they'll still get viewers and I'll keep an eye on the show, but I'm just no longer that interested. (The producer, Jaime Paglia, keeps tweeting frantically things like 'Just give it a chance! Enjoy the ride!' - which smacks of desperation and isn't convincing me. I'm not enjoying the ride. So I'm backing off watching.)

[enalzi]

Doesn't really matter if they get anymore viewers, seeing as there's only 11 episodes left.

[silenus]

I agree. The show was a nice, light-hearted romp. Dark doesn't suit it as a full-time thing.

Oh, well. It was fun while it lasted. I still miss Stark though.

[Lightnin']

Isn't that the first time anyone's ever been just outright killed in Eureka, as opposed to random wacky accidents?

[simster]

Originally Posted by Lightnin'

Isn't that the first time anyone's ever been just outright killed in Eureka, as opposed to random wacky accidents?

yep

[anmbia]

Um no, the first murder was Susan, in S1E1, poisoned by Beverly. That was the first timeline so that doesn't mean *this* Beverly has killed anyone. Although that Susan was a clone so maybe it doesn't count...

Anyway, I'm not willing to give up on spoiler quite yet. I really think we will be seeing more of them this season.

[silenus]

That's why I'll continue to DVR the show, even if I don't watch it. On the off chance...

[TBG]

I still like the show, but I think the alternate timeline thing really was a shark jump moment. I hope this virtual reality business gets wrapped up sooner rather than later so we at least get some normal episodes this season.

And at the identity of the mole. Way too predictable.

[D_Odds]

Did they wrap it up fast enough for you?

When Day got offed, I knew a significant part of geekdom would cry foul. Can't say that I really cared one way or another, but the only thing missing from Na's character was the moustache twirling. I would have liked a little more depth to her, but I guess they only signed her for a few episodes.

[Fair Rarity]

I'm glad the storyline is over. Last night's episode was better than the 2nd, but still not very good compared to other episodes. It appears I was incorrect about Felicia's character.

[Lute Skywatcher]

Originally Posted by silenus

If she really is dead, so is this show to me.

Turns out she

SPOILER:

was only mostly dead

then

SPOILER:

started running amok

and

SPOILER:

being given a new body

made that easier. Which has prompted

SPOILER:

the DoD to cut funding to GD and shut down Eureka.

[Tangent]

I can't believe there's only one more episode.

[simster]

Originally Posted by Lute Skywatcher

Turns out she

SPOILER:

was only mostly dead

then

SPOILER:

started running amok

and

SPOILER:

being given a new body

made that easier. Which has prompted

SPOILER:

the DoD to cut funding to GD and shut down Eureka.

<not spoilering - don't care>

yeah - because the one thing the DoD would want to shut down is the geniuses that just perfected cloning and programming of the clones - Why is it I see a man in the background wearing a dark cloak?

While I am watching to the bitter end - they really lost touch this final season - there were definitely moments of genius intertwined - makes perfectly good sense that Henry would fight the military nature of 'this timelines' Eureka - but sheesh - some of the stuff just seemed down right silly - and not in a good way.

"I taste like chicken" - however, has to be one of the highlights....

[aruvqan]

Originally Posted by simster

<not spoilering - don't care>

yeah - because the one thing the DoD would want to shut down is the geniuses that just perfected cloning and programming of the clones - Why is it I see a man in the background wearing a dark cloak?

While I am watching to the bitter end - they really lost touch this final season - there were definitely moments of genius intertwined - makes perfectly good sense that Henry would fight the military nature of 'this timelines' Eureka - but sheesh - some of the stuff just seemed down right silly - and not in a good way.

"I taste like chicken" - however, has to be one of the highlights....

They are not perfect clones, when you zorch them they turn into black goo, not ... parts. [after all parts is parts.]

I do not like the dark Eureka. We were discussing it last night, and it almost seems like they also combined a couple different seasons to get through all the plot threads. I liked the monster of the week Eurekas anyhow. Much more interesting IMHO than having to dick around with a plot arc.

[silenus]

Yep. They took a nice, quirky, charming little show and fucked it up good. But then, that's SyFy's Mission Statement.

[simster]

Originally Posted by aruvqan

They are not perfect clones, when you zorch them they turn into black goo, not ... parts. [after all parts is parts.]

I do not like the dark Eureka. We were discussing it last night, and it almost seems like they also combined a couple different seasons to get through all the plot threads. I liked the monster of the week Eurekas anyhow. Much more interesting IMHO than having to dick around with a plot arc.

But until they are zorched, they are about as good a clone as money can buy - and programable via flash drive - doesn't get much better than that .

[D_Odds]

My wife and I are enjoying right up until the end. Personally I think some viewers always seem to get upset when a show doesn't follow the arc they would have written, rather than enjoying (or dropping) the show that is written.

[Fair Rarity]

It feels like they're rushed and unprepared. I don't know when production started vs the announcement of cancellation, but it feels like the had something all planned out, then had to rapidly adjust things. I feel that if this wasn't the last season, this season might have been different, paced different, not quite so dark.

[GythaOgg]

Originally Posted by Fair Rarity

It feels like they're rushed and unprepared. I don't know when production started vs the announcement of cancellation, but it feels like the had something all planned out, then had to rapidly adjust things. I feel that if this wasn't the last season, this season might have been different, paced different, not quite so dark.

They had just wrapped filming on the episode that aired last night when the cancellation was announced. They were granted an extra episode to 'wrap up' - last night would have been the season finale. The last episode, which will air next week, was written in one day and then immediately filmed. I'm not expecting much out of it.

[runner pat]

Originally Posted by silenus

Yep. They took a nice, quirky, charming little show and fucked it up good. But then, that's SyFy's Mission Statement.

It could be worse. They could make a SyFy Original Movie out of it.

[Lute Skywatcher]

Originally Posted by simster

But until they are zorched, they are about as good a clone as money can buy - and programable via flash drive - doesn't get much better than that .

They're also a veritable Pandora's Box. Imagine all the chaos one could cause with an Obama clone!

[TBG]

Originally Posted by GythaOgg

They had just wrapped filming on the episode that aired last night when the cancellation was announced. They were granted an extra episode to 'wrap up' - last night would have been the season finale. The last episode, which will air next week, was written in one day and then immediately filmed. I'm not expecting much out of it.

Fuck me, I thought the entire season was the way it was because they knew the end was coming and all. A lot of shows start half assing it that way when they know the curtain's coming. Given your description of the situation, I'm REALLY not expecting much from the finale now.

[cochrane]

I have my hopes up, but I'm afraid the final episode might become another "These Are the Voyages."

[Labtrash]

How did the finale go?

Did they wrap it up nicely?

[audit1]

Finale wrapped up very nicely . Happy Endings with a call back to the pilot episode.

[simster]

Originally Posted by audit1

Finale wrapped up very nicely . Happy Endings with a call back to the pilot episode.

I'll agree overall - although the 'buy out' felt overly cheesy - I really liked the bookend.

[Andy L]

Originally Posted by audit1

Finale wrapped up very nicely . Happy Endings with a call back to the pilot episode.

Just watched it myself - I agree that it wrapped up pretty nicely (and much better than I had feared).

[Tangent]

Pretty satisfying ending, though it did feel a bit rushed. Nice to see Zoe again--loved the final scene.