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Old 10-18-2001, 05:49 PM
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She's only 3 months old! She CAN'T die! IT'S NOT RIGHT!!!!!

Don't you dare fucking take my kitten away-don't don't don't...

Oh god...I'm sitting here, literally SCREAMING and hyperventilating. This can't happen!!!!
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Old 10-18-2001, 06:20 PM
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At least the cat is only a few months old, and you didn't get a chance to really get to know her. I hope you feel better soon. Maybe you could get another cat?
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Old 10-18-2001, 06:26 PM
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Excuse me?

Didn't get to know her? Get another cat?

With all due respect-fuck you.

If ANYTHING, the fact that she's so young makes it worse. And we DID get to know her-I'm extremely attached and was looking forward to seeing her grow up.

Just go fuck off.
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Old 10-18-2001, 06:28 PM
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Geez Cap'n, that's cold. I'm so sorry, Guin--one of my cats died in February, 16 years old. I know exactly how you feel.
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Old 10-18-2001, 06:36 PM
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Relax Guin- it's a F-ing cat. What's with the cursing of God? Makes me wonder what you do/say/curse when a person that you know, or don't know gets sick or dies....
"HE WAS ONLY 98 YEARS OLD!!! F-U GOD!! F-GOD!!! IT'S SO UNFAIR YOU DUMB F-ING GOD!! F-ING EAT SHIT GOD!! IT'S NOT RIGHT YOU DICKHEAD GOD!!!"

You're F'd.
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Old 10-18-2001, 06:44 PM
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Captain Amazing, that was amazing alright. Amazingly callous. You may not have intended it that way, since text is sometimes misleading, and if so, I ask you to reconsider your words.

bigneck - Nice troll, dude. I'm not sure anyone could be more of an asshole that you are right now. You'll have a very colorful and hopefully very short time here now.

Guinastasia, you can also try picking a troll-free place to rant and get some tea and sympathy too, if you know where I mean...
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Old 10-18-2001, 06:46 PM
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Yeah. I just lost the best cat in the entire world in August of 2000-my Fluffy-she too was sixteen and had been with me since I was six years old.

Tess is only three months old. She's so sweet, and she just looks up at you like she thinks you're a god. The vet when she was born wanted to have her put to sleep-because of her leg-but the woman insisted she'd find her a home. She beat SO many odds-the runt, being crippled, etc etc..only for this to happen.

Osama Bin Laden is still alive-but my kitten has to die? What kind of God allows that?
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Old 10-18-2001, 06:50 PM
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bigneck, get a life. that was a pointlessly mean post.
Guin, i'm sorry to hear about your cat. i still miss the dog i had as a child, and that was 15 years ago. so you have my sympathy, for what it's worth.
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Old 10-18-2001, 06:53 PM
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Troll or not, I don't see the cursing of God (in the subect-looking for attention,) on a message board as an effective way to deal with the loss/impending loss of a cat. I hope your time is less colorful Anthracite.
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Old 10-18-2001, 06:54 PM
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Old 10-18-2001, 06:56 PM
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Christ people, have some compassion, or at least common courtesy.

That’s sad, Guin. I’m going to have to go hug my cat now.
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Old 10-18-2001, 07:09 PM
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Sorry if I sounded callous. I didn't mean to be. I'm not an emotional person as it is, and it can be hard to express emotion online. What I was trying to say is that, since you only had the cat for a few months, you didn't have time to have all the positive experiences with her that you would have if you had owned her for several years, for example, and so it might be a little easier to deal with your loss. I do sympathize though. My dog died a few years ago, when she was 6, of pancreatic cancer, and I felt bad about that, especially seeing her get worse and worse and knowing there was nothing I could do. It's something, I think, the way you can get attached to animals like that.

I had thought that when an pet died, they encouraged you to get another one as soon as possible, so that you could forget about the loss. I might have that backwards, though. At any rate, my apologies for sounding callous, and I'm sorry to hear about your loss. I suppose, if you wanted, you could look at it this way. When she was born, the vet wanted to put her to sleep, but because of her mother's owner's insistance that she would find her someone who would take her, and your willingness to take her, the two of you together gave her 3 months of life she otherwise wouldn't have had, so you were able to give her that at least.
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Old 10-18-2001, 07:14 PM
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I hate to hear that. It's not fair, I know.

I've never had a pet, so I can't pretend to understand the hurt, but I feel for you anyway.

(((((((Guin and kittycat)))))))))))
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Old 10-18-2001, 07:17 PM
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Troll or not, I don't see the cursing of God (in the subect-looking for attention,) on a message board as an effective way to deal with the loss/impending loss of a cat. I hope your time is less colorful Anthracite.
[assuming a belief in God]
Since God made us, and made us capable of feeling love, even for animals, and feeling grief when they died, and made anger a normal part of the grieving process, I cannot believe that He would mind someone directing their anger at him. I choose to believe that there is a reason for that phase of anger. I choose to believe that He would understand, and allow himself to be the target for that person's anger, so that that person could grieve naturally.

For if one believes in God, one has to believe that He understands us far better than we can understand each other and loves us far better than we can love each other.

And if you, in your sanctimonious pseudo-piety choose to judge what God has wrought in the form of this person's actions, you can stick your keyboard up your ass so far that you're typing with your appendix.
[/assuming a belief in God]

{{{Guin}}} I love my two kitties, and I would have grieved for them the day I got them no less that I will if they both reach a happy extreme old age.
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Old 10-18-2001, 07:20 PM
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Am I the only one who finds Anthracite's product plug in a thread like this a little....off-color?
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Old 10-18-2001, 07:21 PM
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So you are cursing God, over a mere cat?
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Old 10-18-2001, 07:29 PM
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Thank you, infidel.
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Old 10-18-2001, 07:30 PM
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Yes, she is cursing God over a mere cat.

Ye fools who judge, I am sorry for you. I hope one day you form a close bond with a cat. Perhaps then you will understand Guin's suffering.

Until then, kindly step off and shut up. Unless you fancy pulling your teeth out of your own assholes.
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Old 10-18-2001, 07:33 PM
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Zyada,

Do you condone cursing God when one is upset? For that matter, to you condone anal/keyboard contact?
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Old 10-18-2001, 07:34 PM
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Am I the only one who finds Anthracite's product plug in a thread like this a little....off-color?
Guinastasia is a member over there, and we have a lot of cat lovers over there too, and have had several cat-oriented threads and subtopics lately. What are you really saying - that someone can't recommend other avenues for commiserating with their friends? I hope you're going to start doing this every time someone mentions Fathom, or else you're going to look like a big old hypocrite. And you wouldn't want that, right?

And your "product plug" statement is a flat out lie, because I in no way mentioned anything that told anyone where to go who did not already know where I was talking about. Evidently you did. So, what was your IP address again...?

Your problem is...what again? Don't make me tax the server by searching to find out what your real problem is...actually, how about starting another Pit thread, so you stop shitting on this one, mmmkay? I mean, at least you could have posted that you had some basic human feelings towards Guinastasia and her sadness, but instead you came in here to attack me. Well, you start that thread, and I'll be there.
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Old 10-18-2001, 07:35 PM
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Maeglin,

Do you condone anal/tooth contact?
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Old 10-18-2001, 07:35 PM
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I mean, at least you could have posted that you had some basic human feelings towards Guinastasia and her sadness
Well, after posting, I saw that you actually posted something supportive to her, so I take this back. It was correct at the time I wrote it, however.
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Old 10-18-2001, 07:45 PM
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There is no such thing as a mere cat.
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Old 10-18-2001, 07:51 PM
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A) Guin: ignore the trolls (I'm excepting Captain Amazing from the term.) Think of them as the insects they are.

B) God (any God worth believing in) will forgive and understand any comments you make in your pain and loss.

C) My heart breaks for you m'friend. I've lost 4 cats in 2 years and I know how much it hurts. You've got my sympathies and condolences. {{{Guin}}}

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Old 10-18-2001, 07:51 PM
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Guinastasia, I can empathize with what you're going through. I had a mid-aged cat, Soha, who had to be put down this summer. It's a horrible decision to make, and there's no real way to make it easier.
I'm so sorry.
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Old 10-18-2001, 07:55 PM
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Thanks, everyone. It's okay, Captain. I know what you mean-I'm just lashing out at everyone. My whole family is-my father especially-first he yelled at me for not going to church anymore, and then my mom for feeding a stray...before storming off to work.

And my sister's nasty as anything-but right now, she's cuddling Tess-who is really HER cat. She's going to stay home tomorrow and be with her. I'm going to school-I have to keep my mind occupied.

I'll be all right. I'll be all right.



I just keep thinking-at least, even though they never met, My Fluffy will look after her....when she's gone.
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Old 10-18-2001, 08:00 PM
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Guin,
I never do this...in fact, I find it overly sentimental and a little annoying, but I'm going to make an exception to my rule this time.

<<<Guin>>>
<<<Guin's family>>>
<<<Tess>>>
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Old 10-18-2001, 08:01 PM
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I too feel very sorry for you and your kitten. My daughter's kitten had to be put to sleep just last winter. It's a long story, but we agonized over the decision as well. We too really had no choice, but it was a miserably hard one to make anyway.

Make sure you can be with your kitten when the vet puts her to sleep. Give her all your love, hold her gently, and know that her thoughts are all positive and loving. It may not help you right then, but I'm sure it will help later to remember her. Sorry that's all we can offer. Best wishes to you.
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Old 10-18-2001, 08:07 PM
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Actually, theres a few million other mere cats to take that ones place.
However, in the end, we'll all be bending our knee to the one God.


To tell you the truth, I'm sorry for your loss. I'm sure it means a lot to you, but to curse the Lord over a cats death is foolish.
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Old 10-18-2001, 08:07 PM
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Do you condone cursing God when one is upset? For that matter, to you condone anal/keyboard contact?
If someone was grieving and cursed me and it helped them in any way, I would be happy to be the recipient of their anger. I cannot accept that God could be less accepting of people than I, so yes, I have no problem with the first. For reference, see an essay called "The Woman Who Talked Back to God and Didn't Get Zapped" by Sonia Johnson in From Housewife to Heretic

As for the second, what you do in the privacy of your home is your own business.
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Old 10-18-2001, 08:10 PM
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bigneck and Infidel, you are heartless bastards. I would cut you with flaming invectives, but you wouldn't bleed. You don't seem to be human.

Losing a loved one is the hardest thing that people can indure. Guin will wake up one day soon, get out of bed, and go about her morning routine. But it won't be the same.

You see, she will be looking for, and expecting to see Tess. And Tess won't be there. In gentle hearted persons, this brings about a sense of wrenching loss. Guin will feel this 'sense of something just isn't right' for a long, long time. Tess won't be there to greet her when she comes home from a hard day of work or school. Tess won't be there when she curls up with a book to read.

When Guin calls the kitties to dinner, there will be one less head at the food dish. She has the right to grieve over the loss of her beloved kitty. And I'm crying now for her pain.

Your unwelcome commentary is out of line.
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Old 10-18-2001, 08:18 PM
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So you are cursing God, over a mere cat?
Shit, I curse God when I lose at Counter-Strike. Fuck off and let the woman greive.

Guin: Look at it this way: you only got to be with her for a few months, but she got to be with you her entire life. Which makes her an extrememly lucky kitty.

And don't wait too long to get another cat. Loving homes are always in high demand.
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Old 10-18-2001, 08:29 PM
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Losing a loved one is the hardest thing that people can indure. Guin will wake up one day soon, get out of bed, and go about her morning routine. But it won't be the same.

You see, she will be looking for, and expecting to see Tess. And Tess won't be there. In gentle hearted persons, this brings about a sense of wrenching loss. Guin will feel this 'sense of something just isn't right' for a long, long time. Tess won't be there to greet her when she comes home from a hard day of work or school. Tess won't be there when she curls up with a book to read.

When Guin calls the kitties to dinner, there will be one less head at the food dish.
Wouldn't stuffing the carcass alieviate these problems?
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Old 10-18-2001, 08:36 PM
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Troll or not, I don't see the cursing of God (in the subect-looking for attention,) on a message board as an effective way to deal with the loss/impending loss of a cat. I hope your time is less colorful Anthracite.
Please, go start a new thread called "bigneck's effective ways to deal with the loss of loved pets".

You're a total shithead. Even if she isn't isn't dealing with this in a way you approve of, back the fuck off and have an ounce of respect for someone who is obviously in a lot of pain right now.




and Guin, I'm sorry.
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Old 10-18-2001, 08:39 PM
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Guin, here's something I never do
{{{{{{{{Guin}}}}}}}
You got my deepest sympathies. I love my little Neutron and I know I'd be devastated if anything happened to her. I hope it gets better.
Please excuse the following out-of-character language.

To the trolls:
Fuck you with a chainsaw! Who the fuck do you think you are shitting over someone's grief? A pet loves you, plays with you, listens to you, and comforts you. God, you people are a sack of heartless, souless, motherfuckers!
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Old 10-18-2001, 08:41 PM
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I'm an insect.

Speaking of unwelcome commentary... Insults and threats of cutting people are welcome? Come on. I do have a heart, and I am an animal lover (1 dog, 1 hamster, 5 fish, and 1 turtle. I would have a cat but I am much too allergic.) I was merely questioning the cursing of God. I realize God is understanding/forgiving, and would understand/forgive a human reaction of this nature. However, is it necessary to curse God on a message board when one is upset with some "unfairness?" In posing this question (I now see I did it in a rude fashion, I apologize, but I suppose it's my nature,) I have been accused of having no heart, been told to shove a keyboard up my ass, been called psuedo-pietic, and have had my gleaming teeth threatened. However heartless I may be perceived, I do understand the feeling that accompanies the loss of a pet. But please, keep some perspective. My feeling....

*Curse God if you must, but don't post it on a silly message board. What is gained in doing so, really?
*Many things are not fair; saying F-U to God does not make them any more so - regardless of His understanding.
*Threatening bigneck's teeth is bad.
*Insects can make good pets. However, do not curse God when they become ill or die.
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Old 10-18-2001, 08:42 PM
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I'm sorry, Guin.
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Old 10-18-2001, 08:47 PM
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Gee, Wabbit, I hardly think so. I hope you were being facetious.

After my Grandmother died, I realized that I would never, ever recieve another letter from her. I would never, ever again go to the mailbox and extract a letter from my Grandmother, in her 'spidery' handwriting. 17 years later, I still miss my Grandmother. And her weekly letters to me.

I guess I should have just had her stuffed.....

Is that what you're trying to say?
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Old 10-18-2001, 08:52 PM
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Has everyone lost their fucking minds? Is this just a troll magnet? Her fucking kitten's about to die and all we get is pieces of shit like bigneck, infidel, and wabbit making sport or sanctimony of her grief. You fuck off now.

Guin, I was so sorry to read that Tess wasn't going to be OK. Taking her in was an act of kindness and it warms me. To be repaid with the loss of the kitten you've come to love must be painful, as anyone with some fellow human feeling *darksome glowering* could appreciate.

Hugs to you in your time of trial, and blessings upon Tess for whatever may come after.
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Old 10-18-2001, 08:54 PM
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{{{{{{Hugs all around}}}}}}}}
You people are really something. Cat gets sick, owner says "Fuck You" to God as a result. Someone points out perspective. Sympathizers hurl insults and violent scenarios, (some quite perverted,) but continue to offer {{{{hugs.}}}}
Strangely intriguing....
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Old 10-18-2001, 08:56 PM
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bigneck and Infidel, you are heartless bastards. I would cut you with flaming invectives, but you wouldn't bleed. You don't seem to be human.

Actually bud, I'm not a bastard. My parents were married when I was conceived.
As far as being human, obviously I am. Thats why I question
Guinastasia when she curses the Lord because a mere cat died.

Also, its very telling of the people of the people who posted on this thread that they seemed more concerned about a mere cat than with someone cursing the GOD which created the cat, the cats owner, and the people empathizing with the cats owner.
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Old 10-18-2001, 09:02 PM
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Look-do you HONESTLY think I'm seriously cursing God?

I'm angry. I'm hurting. I don't know what to think. I'm cursing LIFE in general right now.

The ONLY comfort I can get is that she'll be with my Fluffy.
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Old 10-18-2001, 09:02 PM
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{{{{{{Hugs all around}}}}}}}}
You people are really something. Cat gets sick, owner says "Fuck You" to God as a result. Someone points out perspective. Sympathizers hurl insults and violent scenarios, (some quite perverted,) but continue to offer {{{{hugs.}}}}
Strangely intriguing....
You're really something. Someone cries out in anger and pain and says "Fuck You to God as a result. A callous bastard decides to pester her about the specific words in her outburst, rather than offering sympathy and compassion as God would have us do. Other trolls come in supporting the callous bastard making comments (some quite heartless and disgusting). Decent people try to shield the owner from the trolls in her time of sorrow.

The trolls are strangely sickening....

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Old 10-18-2001, 09:10 PM
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Infidel, you are a heartless person born of two people that were lawfully married before your birth!

I think you are a mean Son of a Bitch. Please forward any documents that prove that your mother isn't a bitch. Or that you're not her son.

That should clear things up nicely.

If it walks like a heartless bastard, talks like a heartless bastard; Oh Christ! you do the math!
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Old 10-18-2001, 09:14 PM
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Fenris says;
The trolls are strangely sickening....

Is that what you call anyone who disagrees with you?


Guinastasia- I've lost animals too. It sucks, but thats the way of the world. We all are born. We all die

Someday I'll be lying in a grave. You too.

But please dont curse the Lord for what He designed.
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Old 10-18-2001, 09:19 PM
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The trolls are strangely sickening....

Is that what you call anyone who disagrees with you?
No, that's what I call evil fucks who use someone's grief to score points.
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Old 10-18-2001, 09:20 PM
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But please dont curse the Lord for what He designed
And people ask me why I'm an atheist!

Who the fuck do you think you are, Infidel? Which is an odd name for a Bible-thumping troll, BTW. Guinastasia is in pain, shouting at the sky in her grief, and you have the temerity to scold her?

Fuck you and fuck your asshole imaginary deity!
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Old 10-18-2001, 09:28 PM
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I think you are a mean Son of a Bitch. Please forward any documents that prove that your mother isn't a bitch. Or that you're not her son.

So who's mean now?

I've not said a mean word to Guinastasia. I said I was sorry for her loss. But she shouldnt curse the Lord for what goes on naturally every day. If she'd merely said her cat died , I'd probable offer sympathy, but she chose to curse God for her cats death. I just cannot let that stand without saying something.
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Old 10-18-2001, 09:30 PM
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Wouldn't stuffing the carcass alieviate these problems?
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Actually, theres a few million other mere cats to take that ones place.
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Relax Guin- it's a F-ing cat

With apologies to Travis Bickle,

"All the animals come out at night - trolls, shitheads, assholes, idiots, cheapshot artists. Someday a real rain will come and wash all this scum off the boards."
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Old 10-18-2001, 09:31 PM
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Um, no, my cat isn't dead. She's sick. She has to be put to sleep.

I was not cursing God seriously, but lashing out-and even if I was-"let he who is without sin cast the first stone?"
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