I’m a Libertarian you loser. I believe in people’s rights to say what they think but I also believe in a responsibility to not be a complete jerk to be part of that. That goes for BigNeck too.
Since he (or she) had something to say then so do I.
I read a lot of your words, I didn’t see your “kind words” if you said kind words it was very thin.
BTW. http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=93949 Is where this started.
BTW, I forgot to add. If someone has the need to curse God then let them curse God. There are times when cursing God is the only way to let out pain. I for one do it, and the God I knows doesn’t fault me for it.
Why? Because the God I knows carries within God the all-knowing, the all-power to make things right. With all the events of recent God seems to be a small part of our true existance at times and when something comes up like Guin’s kitty, it’s just one more thing to question our faith in the power we may or may not believe in.
Oh and if Guin needs to, she can see it fit to apologize to God for her words. But I know God knows she is in pain and needs to work through it. You curse those you love when life sucks because they are the ones to forgive you and understand your pain first.
Sorry about your kitten. People unsympathetic to animals are certainly serial killers. As for the Lord, he/she/it will get over it.
After reading what Infidel wrote in that other post, I thought, Why doesn’t he just save time and email Lynn directly and beg to be banned immediately?
I really don’t think he’ll last much longer, anyway, if he keeps that type of behavior up.
There’s a time to preach (I guess), and a time to show extra understanding. He evidently hasn’t learned that yet.
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?postid=1614979#post1614979
…no further explaination needed
Hey Baby… {Infidel smiles}
In case you did’nt notice, I expressed sympathy to Guinastasia for the loss of her kitten. So therefore I believe that part of the debate should be closed.
The part of her post that I disagreed with was her using obscenities to the Lord God. I critisized her for that, yes I did.
In turn, several people, including Guinastasia, then attacked me for critisizing her slander of the Lord.
Now, some of these people said that words said in grief would be forgiven. I’m not so sure.
My whole point was this. Yes, death happens. Yes. it sucks. Yes, it happens to all of us.
But no, its not right to curse the Lord because death happens. And just because words are said in grief doesnt mean those words are forgiven.
I’m not your baby…
If you disagree with what someone posts, then go with that but don’t eliminate your other thoughts as well. You made yourself look like a complete uncaring ass for her situation.
So what, she cursed God, read my second post in this thread and it will explain where I am coming from. However, that never gives anyone the right to be a jerk from the get-go. It’s okay to disagree but to essentially be a jerk about her situation because of it is pretty lame considering the situation she presented. If she were cursing God for a rip in her favorite sweater then you have a leg to stand on.
Next time, state something like:
“While I completely disagree with your cursing of God, blah, blah, blah, I am sorry your kitty is dying and I hope that, blah, blah, blah.”
If you had nothing better to say the first go around then maybe you should not say anything at all, seeing as you are a God-fearing person, or so you claim.
Infidel Doesn’t only God know what Guinistasia was thinking when she wrote that post? Are you not going off for no reason, and perhaps commiting the same original sin Lucifer did? (I am pretty sure Lucifer is alleged to have thought he could do God’s job for him). Also, depending on your translation, isn’t there something that starts out “judge not…”? Moreover, isn’t there something in John 3:16 which is supposedly outcome determinative on this whole deal? You know the crap about how you can cuss the Lord and murder and get it all expunged like the worst kind of liberal judge has the keys to heaven? Therefore, you can shut up, right?
Hey, Infidel, did it ever occur to you that it’s kinda useless to chastizing people for not adhering to the rules of religions they don’t believe in? It’s like me ripping you a new one for not keeping kosher, or taking you to task for not bowing to Mecca five times a day. I don’t know what religion Guinastasia belongs to, if any, but evidently it doesn’t have a major taboo on blasphemy. And if it does, then that’s between Guin, God, and her chosen religious representative, if any. In other words, none of yours.
I think it is also important to high-light the fact that your luke-warm condolences in the other thread in no way make up for your abominable rudeness in chastizing someone who is watching her beloved pet die. This was one of the most astonishingly insensitive things I’ve ever seen on this board. You ought to be ashamed.
35 minutes…I’m pretty good.
That’s right. Keep on trying to annoy. It’ll help your cause a lot.
For every phrase in the Bible you can find to support this, I’ll bet I can find just as many that says God forgives.
The point is, you’re not the arbiter of who is forgiven.
What the Bible says about forgiveness.
Even mortal sins can be forgiven. See the following link:
http://www.catholicdoors.com/faq/qu06.htm
Please read those and tell me if you’re ready to retract anything.
I really hope everybody calms down about this. But if you wanna flame me, go ahead…
First, I empathize with Guin and her loss. It is terrible and tragic and incredibly painful. I remember well crying and screaming and even throwing things in rage for my own loss (Rebecca - black & white tabby). And dammit, I cursed God for it.
But to address the op, I can also understand where someone might be offended by cursing God. Many religions explicitly state that taking the Lord’s name in vain, cursing it, etc. is a sin. Just because you (and I) may not think so, doesn’t make it any less offensive to some.
This doesn’t, of course, excuse the disgusting behavior of some folks here - trolling, goading, infantile actions which are well beyond defense. The manner in which they attempted to explain their reasoning leads me to believe that they are merely children in waaaay over their heads. And since they’re not our children, no need to engage or instruct. Simply ignore.
As for all of the offensive back and forth, I’d rather spend the time and energy sending a little prayer to Guin and her sweet friend. I hope you make it through okay and that your cat suffers as little as possible.
<dusting off Admin hat and putting it on>
Infidel
Well, Infidel, you have just proved yourself to be a world class jerk in that other thread. Goodbye. I wrote in emails to Guin and the other mods that I wasn’t gonna ban anyone, but that was when I’d only read the first page of that thread. I should have kept my mouth shut until I’d read all of the thread.
Slacker and bigneck, this is your Last Warning. The ONLY reason you’re not both banned right now is because I am pissed, and I am not sure that I can look at your histories coolly and rationally. But I WILL be looking at both of you in the future.
Lynn
Administrator
For the Straight Dope
You know, they may revel in their right to say whatever they want… however, I’d like to think that everyone else revels in their right to smack the assholes upside the head.
Liz, you’re a good woman. Guin, you have my utmost of sympathies. Infidel, I hope you get squicked by a whale and then munged by an elephant. Toodle-oo, you tactless son of a Satanic chicken rapist.
Oh, and Lynn, you are also a good woman. If I could present you with a mountain of chocolate, I would.
(I’m just in a lovey-dovey mood tonight.)
Thanks, everyone.
Seriously, I wasn’t seriously cursing God-(and I was raised Catholic-but currently non-practicing). I was more like, “Why are you doing this?” I was raging at Him because I was angry. Hell, my father was yelling at everyone of US before he left for work.
Didn’t Christ himself say, ‘My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?’
I’m sorry if anyone was offended-but when I wrote that, I was hysterical, and almost having a panic attack-that’s how upset I was.
But I still appologize.
Oh, wait, I remember. Please, can this be the one person we collectively [and silently] agree is an irredeemable ass and let him pass in silence? I’m glad to see there is not yet the obligatory ‘why’ thread. Would that it stays that way.
And when BigNeck’s time comes [Lynn is unlikely to be impressed by his history] I would like to issue a friendly challenge to let him fade away without fanfare as well.
I wanted to post this in the other thread, but it’s closed. Anyway, here it is:
Infidel and SmallDick… uhhhh… BigNeck (your names don’t deserve to be in bold font), allow me to offer you a hearty “FUCK YOU!” “A mere cat”??? FUCK YOU!!! There you go. After my more than 200 posts, and a fair number of them being in The Pit, you two Australopithecines have earned a special title; you are the first people at SDMB to whom I send these words: FUCK YOU!
Now kindly go perform analingus on leprous camels, you fucking heartless fucks.
And once again: FUCK YOU!!!
Argh. Serves me right for not using the “preview” feature. I’m sorry, Guin, your name does deserve to be in bold font. I just kinda screwed up the commands.
Although I tend to agree with bigneck that it is indeed just a cat - I didn’t say anything as remotely incendiary as his comments. I wouldn’t say such a thing because it’s rude and unproductive. I just found the thread (note: the THREAD in it’s entirety, not the OP) hilarious because people were about to blow a blood vessel in rage because of someone else’s insensitivity. I don’t think it’s funny that the OP’s cat is sick.
So Lynn - is what I said seriously grounds for banning? If so this place is even more over-moderated than I had heard.