How many prior Meyer - Saban matchups have there been? What’s the record? (I’m surprised I haven’t heard this already.)
Well, other than the Pac-10 champion, Oregon, who were ranked #2 by both the AP and coaches poll, of course. :dubious:
And handcuffed by that Rose Bowl “tradition”. 
As God intended. :D:D:dubious::D:D
I know you’re only poking good-natured fun so neither your remarks nor my reply should be taken seriously.
HOWEVER, I would be remiss if I didn’t point out that the Rose Bowl always had a BCS exception – if the Pac or B1G conference champions were #1 or #2, they were released to go play in the NCG.
(maybe 2001 was pre-exception, but I don’t think so).
In retrospect, I wish Oregon would’ve had the pleasure of playing that Miami team, instead of us. 
Why am I the only one who still has these events burned into my brain?:mad:
Yes, jsc1953 is correct, the Rose Bowl tie-in during the BCS era always had an exception in the event that the B1G or Pac champion was invited to play for the national championship, so that had nothing to do with Oregon’s snub, it was just the f&#*#d up BCS computers. After the season, the BCS formula was tweaked so that particular injustice couldn’t happen again.
To add insult to injury, the Rose Bowl was the national title game that year, so we didn’t even get to go to the Rose Bowl at all. Instead we throttled Colorado in the Fiesta Bowl 38-16 (OK, I’ll admit I looked the score up).
And WRT Rose Bowl tradition, I will just say that I have on my wall the front page of the Eugene Register-Guard for January 2, 2012, the headline of which is ROSES AT LAST! Sure, we won the conference and a subsequent New Year’s Day bowl game in 2001, and we went to the National Championship Game in 2010, but nobody in Eugene thought that either of those made up for our 95 years without winning the Rose Bowl. And I am sure every other team in the B1G or Pac would feel the same way.
FWIW, I knew that. That is why I added the numerous emoticons.
It was my way of dismissing “Because God intended the Rose Bowl should be a B1G vs PACxx Matchup”. Apparently it is OK to abandon tradition for specified reasons.
That tradition is exclusionary, arrogant and sanctimonious. It is one of the reasons why I have as much disdain for the B1G as BobLibDem has for the SEC.
I don’t care much for PACxx either, but they are no forced down my throat as much as the B1G, here in the Midwest.
Tradition (and apparently, God) died with the BCS. Since the BCS’s inception, the Rose Bowl has, as often as not, included some interloper like Texas (as in the Great Screw of '04).
Yet nearly 20 years later, I get some old fogies still pining for the days of B1G vs PACxx Rose Bowl Matchup. As God, Buddha and Allah intended
Frankly, I didn’t think Baylor should have been ranked #4 like they were prior to their loss to West Virginia back in October. As for the final rankings, my gripe earlier in the thread was that I didn’t believe TCU should have been in the top 4 since they lost to Baylor. In the end that didn’t happen so the point is moot.
Actually, aliens have only played in five of the last twenty Rose Bowls, and the Miami-Nebraska debacle was the only one where neither traditional conference participated (although I guess that is retroactively untrue). Not sure why some folks find the idea of traditional bowl tie-ins so offensive.
Speaking for this particular folk, it’s not the idea of traditional bowl tie-ins. It’s the arrogance of claiming that particular bowl as sacrosanct and somehow “more important” than the other bowls. I realize it’s not a universal attitude, but enough BigXX and PACXX fans feel that way that it gets annoying.
And the fucking parade* is stupid. 
- Now that the Chiefs will be marching, it is, of course, must-see tv.
I agree with your first and second paragraph.
Parade will be just as ridiculous if the Chiefs play that Atlanta Braves War Chant tune.
Nick Saban is 2-1 vs. Urban Meyer.
http://www.nola.com/sugarbowl/index.ssf/2014/12/allstate_sugar_bowl_brings_bac.html
Thanks. I believe Meyer was coaching Utah when they shocked an SEC team (I believe, Alabama) in a bowl game. Anybody remember who was the losing coach?
Let me google that for you.
Oh, what’s the fun in that? 
I was wrong – it was Kyle Whittingham who embarrassed Nick Saban and 'Bama.
(shrug) Well, aside from the obvious fact that it is the oldest bowl, I wouldn’t say that it is “more important” than any of the other major bowls (obviously, the most important bowl in any given season is the one my team is playing in!). But when you grow up rooting for a team in one of these conferences, it’s what you aim for. Saying “maybe this the year we will go to one of six different rotating bowls!” just doesn’t have the same ring.
The Kansas City Chiefs will be marching in the parade? Given their success at football, I can’t blame them for switching to being a marching band, but it is a rather unusual move.
I can see why that would be annoying to a fan of one of the lesser bowls 
I can’t imagine this would happen. Texas would be out of the door before the new members were even invited. This is the big problem with Big 12 expansion, they’re are no teams that make sense to add money or football wise and doing so would alienate the teams that have options (Texas and Oklahoma) to leave.
Besides would Adding two random AAC teams even fix the problem? Anyone think the winner of TCU vs KSU is going to get picked over a big name like the OSU? Had the big 12 team been OU instead of TCU, or the big 10 team had been Northwestern, the big 12 team would have in.