2021 US West drought and wildfire thread

Ahh, that really is wonderful news!! Thanks for sharing it!!

Hooray! I hope there’s not too much flooding from denuded areas.

This! Post-fire flooding is a thing.

There was a bad fire back in 2017 (Goodwin Fire) back behind Mayer. Despite reseeding and much time, parts of Mayer have flooded every year since.

This happened/is happening:

There’s going to be a lot more of this, I’m afraid.

Aye; I wonder how often it will make the news or the papers or even an internet blog, tho.

I thought this story was notable simply because it was being publicized and because it was a resolution.

Well, California and other parts of the West got some rain (and some wind to go with it):

This reminds me of the movie The Big Short, the one about the 2008 market collapse, and specifically the guy (played by Christian Bale) who saw it coming and made a fortune by shorting mortgage-backed securities.

At the end, text appears on the screen to tell us what each character is doing now. Christian Bale’s character is now very interested in…water.

Ominous.

Yeah, that was unusual, for sure. Been living in the Sacto area 20+ years and never seen it rain that hard for 24+ hours non-stop. Oct 24 rainfall and one-day records all over the area were shattered yesterday. We got over 5 inches at my place - the yearly average is around 24 inches. Average rainfall for October is around 1.5 in., and yesterday alone beat any monthly average, easily.

While I would not say it was a drought-breaker, it certainly ended the wildfire season in this area.

And now, near the end of the month, a TV weatherperson today said that this is the wettest December “since the 80’s,” although he didn’t say for what area – San Francisco Bay area (the TV station’s market), northern California, or something else. And it’s still raining a little more this week, and picking up again on Monday. Still not a drought-buster, but if it continues into March it will be very welcome indeed.

The irony, of course, is that the rain and relatively temperate climate mean that forest undergrowth will shoot up, and then dry out after the rainy season to become kindling for next year’s forest fires. More water does not mitigate increased dry-season temperatures and seasonal dryness.

18’ of snowfall on Donner Pass. SoCal just got soaked yesterday and there is a lot more arriving tomorrow. Sure, it makes the plants grow so they can burn in August, but at least there will be water in the lakes and reservoirs to fight the fires with.

The thing I’m happy about so far is that the storms are spaced out, so the water has a chance to soak in. No landslides from the El Dorado scar, but we’ll see what happens tomorrow. That’s the slide zone I can see from the back yard.

AP article has some stats:

And those systems are steadily moving eastward, so Alabama, Mississippi, etc. are gonna have to watch out as the week progresses.

Very high Colorado mountains here. We finally got enough snow that I needed to plow on Christmas. VERY strange. I often start plowing in October.

Was in Denver on Christmas Eve and… It rained. Also very odd.

We all need to get used to saying “Unusual weather we’re having.” Unusual is the new normal.

Yeah. Global Climate changes does not mean droughts, necessarily.

CA used to cycle, but my WAG is the cycle will be much more pronounced- really dry years, followed by super wet, etc.

It will get warmer, that is all we can be sure of. That doesn’t mean we can’t have record cold one week, like I think the weatherman said.

It’s gonna get weird I think. I am not seeing the snow that I usually see after 30 years in the Colorado mountains like I used to. Been at elevation for 30 years.

Related thread:

I’m pretty sure this is going to happen no later than May 2022.

Things are going to get dire here as well. Due to a 20 year recording breaking wet monsoon season the deniers are pointing at as proof of no climate change or drought.

The rain caused plants to grow. More food made the deer breed like deer and move closer to people because of deer overcrowding. Deer and cars do not have a good relationship, the across the street neighbors totaled three vehicles by being hit by deer playing Frogger after dark.

The plants that haven’t been eaten are drying out and will be tinder for next years fires.

There are a bunch of reasons getting old sucks, knowing that I’m going to miss the very worse times is a bit of a consolation.

There is a major storm (actually a series) coming down from the north, with record lows starting to sink down. If the models they use are correct, it should be a pretty wild couple of weeks with some really large storms hitting across the country. As you say, global warming doesn’t mean we won’t get record cold snaps and doesn’t mean only drought.

2021 is about to end but the wildfires continue!