2021 US West drought and wildfire thread

What a frustrating map. In California it shows dozens of fires that are “Acres burned” .1 or less, no containment information, fires that obviously don’t exist any more (I found ones from mid June, .1 acres, no containment info).

This map seems more useful. It’s on the same arcgis site, so I don’t know why this one is more accurate than the other (if it is). linky

You are right! I took a closer look and found some old, small fires that I would think are out (one discovered 4/17 and only .2 acres). I wonder why it is including that data? It appears they are pulling the data from the same source since the large active fires seem to have the same details.

This map is also useful in it’s way. You have to click on the Layers icon at top right and choose everything under ‘fires’ except “historical fires”, then you get the active perimeter of the big fires that you can zoom into. “Historical fires” will give you what areas have been burned in recent years, to what time frame I have no idea.

We’ve had several nice rains which helped the fire situation. Of course, the flash floods aren’t a lot of fun either, but at least they are fast.

O’Connell Fire

  • Start date: July 12
  • Size: 180 acres
  • Containment: Unknown
  • Fuels involved: Ponderosa pine, Juniper, Pinyon-Pine
  • Cause: Lightning
  • Personnel: 22

Lime Fire

  • Start date: July 12
  • Size: 2,063 acres
  • Containment: 80%
  • Fuels involved: Grass, brush
  • Cause: Under investigation

Elements Fire

The fire was burning north of Kingman in the Cerbat Mountains, 6 miles northeast of Chloride.

  • Start date: July 11
  • Size: 1,343 acres
  • Containment: 45%
  • Fuels involved: Desert grass and brush
  • Cause: Lightning
  • Total personnel: 50

Tiger Fire

The fire was burning approximately 11 miles east of Crown King.

  • Start date: June 30
  • Size: 16,278 acres
  • Containment: 59%
  • Fuels involved: Tall grass, brush
  • Cause: Lightning
  • Total personnel: 13

Middle Fire

The fire is burning 3 miles west of the Verde River and 3 miles northeast of Red Creek Ranch. On July 11, the fire was active in the head of Squaw Creek and above the Verde River.

  • Start date: June 29
  • Size: 2,792 acres
  • Containment: Unknown
  • Fuels involved: Brush, grass
  • Cause: Lightning
  • Total personnel: 114

Bottom Fire

The fire was burning approximately 7 miles west of Bylas. A containment date of July 12 was given on July 10.

  • Start date: June 28
  • Size: 6,004 acres
  • Containment: 95%
  • Fuels involved: Timber, brush
  • Cause: Lightning
  • Total personnel: 56

Snake Fire

The fire was burning 7 miles west of Clints Well on the northern edge of West Clear Creek in Coconino National Forest.

  • Start date: June 21
  • Size: 130 acres
  • Containment: 60%
  • Fuels involved: Brush, grass, Ponderosa pine
  • Cause: Unknown
  • Total personnel: 5

Alamo Fire

The fire was burning 10 miles west of Nogales between Mexico, the Coronado National Forest and the Nogales Ranger District.

  • Start date: June 20
  • Size: 4,953 acres
  • Containment: 90%
  • Fuels involved: Short grass, brush
  • Cause: Unknown
  • Total personnel: 7

Rafael Fire

The fire was 4 miles north of Perkinsville, east of Highway 89. The fire was burning in Prescott National Forest, east of the Rock Butte Fires.

  • Start date: June 18
  • Size: 78,065 acres
  • Containment: 95%
  • Fuels involved: Grass, juniper, chaparral, ponderosa pine
  • Cause: Lightning
  • Total personnel: 12

Rock Butte Fires

A thunderstorm ignited five fires north of Paulden and west of Highway 89, including Red Hat Fire, Limestone Fire, Spring Fire, Rock Butte Fire and Silent Fire. Red Hat Fire, Limestone Fire and Silent Fire have been 100% contained.

  • Start date: June 17
  • Size: 802 acres
  • Containment: 80%
  • Fuels involved: Juniper, grass understory
  • Cause: Lightning
  • Total personnel: 12

Backbone Fire

The Backbone fire was burning 2 miles west of Pine, south of Highway 260.

  • Start date: June 16
  • Size: 40,855 acres
  • Containment: 98%
  • Fuels involved: Pinyon juniper, chaparral, brush, grass, cactus
  • Cause: Lightning
  • Total personnel: 5

Bear Fire

The Bear Fire was burning 25 miles north of Clifton in the Apache-Sitgreaves National Forests, near U.S. Highway 191.

  • Start date: June 16
  • Size: 23,868 acres
  • Containment: 20%
  • Fuels involved: Ponderosa pine, grass, brush
  • Cause: Lightning
  • Total personnel: 34

Pinnacle Fire

The Pinnacle Fire was burning in Coronado National Forest, approximately 13 miles south of Bylas.

  • Start date: June 10
  • Size: 34,417 acres
  • Containment: 90%
  • Fuels involved: Short grass, brush, timber
  • Cause: Under investigation
  • Total personnel: 49

Previous fires with full containment

  • Walnut Fire: 10,667 acres. Contained as of June 29.
  • Telegraph Fire: 180,757 acres. Contained as of July 4.
  • Slate Fire: 11,435 acres. Contained as of July 5.
  • Painted Fire: 936 acres. Contained as of July 5.
  • Snap Point Fire: 9,843 acres. Contained as of July 13.
  • West Chev Fire: 1,170 acres. Contained as of July 14.
  • Wyrick Fire: 7,592 acres. Contained as of July 14.
  • Horton Fire: 12,263 acres. Contained as of July 15.
  • Cedar Basin Fire: 734 acres. Contained as of July 15.
  • Snake Fire: 130 acres. Contained as of July 15.

Oregon’s Bootleg Fire is now too dangerous to fight; crews were pulled yesterday. Also, it is producing “fire clouds” and “fire tornados”.

So what will stop it? Natural barriers? Which ones? Or rain? Forecast as to coming…?

Gotta remove the heat source underneath all that air is the only way to get rid of 'em.

ETA:

Sad and terrifying. I haven’t spent a lot of time in Oregon, but always thought it was beautiful.

It’s prolly still beautiful but in a fire-themed way now. You can sit and watch the light play as the flames on the ground and the heat distortion paint the flame cloud while fire tornados dance underneath.

Morbid* but true. I’ve sat on our porch at night watching the glowing embers of the fire a couple of miles away. Its mesmerizing.

*probably not the right word, but my mental thesaurus is tired.

This headline says a lot: Unstable weather will continue to fuel huge Oregon blaze.

Check out the NOAA satellite view as the Bootleg fire in Oregon blew up a few days ago.

There’s a new fire just south of Lake Tahoe:

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TroutMan, that satellite footage is incredible! Unreal how huge that fire is and how clearly you can see the fire in the fire cloud!

Real threat of dry lightning over much of CA Sunday and Monday. It’s apparently a very hard phenomenon to accurately predict, so with luck it will be a dud event most everywhere. But definitely something to watch for in most of the state except the far northwest this weekend.

Flagstaff had flooding yesterday (90 second video):

There were 70 active large fires and complexes of multiple fires that have burned nearly 1,659 square miles (4,297 square kilometers) in the U.S., the National Interagency Fire Center said. The U.S. Forest Service said at least 16 major fires were burning in the Pacific Northwest alone.

Here’s some news:

Well this is sure to surprise few and please fewer:

Well, if we could find a way to transfer the fabulous amount of flood waters in western Europe to Lake Mead, we’d be all set. :flushed:

I agree, @Jasmine. There are parts of the eastern US with flooding problems along with Europe. Meanwhile, here in the western US, we very much need their excess water. There has GOT to be some way to redistribute it.