24: Season 4: Episode 17 (11:00pm - 12:00am)

You mean Abdul al’Redqhert?

Shouldn’t it be “my name is federal agent Jack Bauer, and today is Tuesday”?

In the basement of the old haunted power station no less.

Maybe from now on Jack should only go out using an old paint can as backup. It seems more effective than any other agent so far.

You know, I have to think that the football would disable itself if you entered the wrong password 5 x or something just like my PDA.
“Hey…you guys did great…up until the point where you gave the football and codes to the terrorists”
and I see once again Marwah does his disappearing act…from helicopters… in a jeep…in the middle of the freaken desert. “We can’t track him once he goes out of frame!!”

Man I don’t even want to get on the PHONE with Jack Bauer. “I need you to cut off your own hand and use it as a circuit breaker for the nuclear warhead abort controls…”

I don’t think Jack said “Oh, my God!” even once last night.
My favorite line (Jack to Tony): “That doesn’t sound right to me either.”

This whole season is turning into a trainwreck. Oh, wait. Wasn’t that how we started the season? What is this: GROUNDHOG DAY?

Let’s not forget the huge abandoned power facility that apparently is as easy to get into as '73 Camaro.

You know what would be a GREAT scene to end this season?
Chloe or Edgar calling Jack, trying to get him to come to the phone or a meeting or something, and Jack stepping into the men’s room, saying “Sorry, I’m gonna be a while.”

Okay, that’s it. This will be the last season for me.

How many plan which turns out to be a head-fake for the real plan, which turns out to be a head-fake for the real plan (ad nauseum) can we have?

When I use to live in Los Angeles, there was nothing better than going camping in the middle of the Mojave desert. Camping site? Posh! Thats for wimps. I am going to park my car, hike god knows how many miles into the middle of the desert, then set up camp.

Jason: We’re in the middle of a desolate area!
Jack Bauer: Head to the nearest building, they wont check there!
Henchman: We lost the cell phone signal!
Imhotep: We’ll head for the nearest building, we’ll check there.

Who is more dangerous to work for Jack or Marwan? I am assuming Marwan’s terrorism budget is going to come in under budget, thanks to all those non-Arab turncoats getting killed.

All we are missing is General Ripper and Wing Attack Plan R. Apparently in the 24 universe like the ‘Doctor Strangelove’ universe ‘safeguards’ mean exact opposite to what it sounds like.

This thread is more fun than the show.

I’m glad someone mentioned Imhotep. I finally got a close look at him last night and thought to myself, “hey, isn’t that The Mummy!”. It’s great that my questions get answered even before I have to ask them.

Since Imhotep is always several steps ahead of them and nigh invulnerable, perhaps they should call on the Scorpion King for help? Then again, he won’t last long if he’s partnered with Jack.

You guys (and gals) are too good. All my witty rejoinders have been taken.

And I think we’re on to something with the Marwan teleporting idea – it explains so much! He laughs at CTUs puny “perimeter”! He appears at the site of the fallen debris within 5 minutes! He disappears from the middle of the Mojave desert, in a jeep, in the middle of the night! (By the way, what happened to the CTU satellites that can tell exactly where a human is running in the basement of a warehouse? They can’t track a jeep in the middle of the desert?)

I just don’t get it. Seriously, was Marwan’s [current] goal to get the football? If it was, what the hell was his backup plan?

Even just starting from THIS episode, it seems his plan was to blowup Air Force 1, then get the football, then use a nuke. WTF?

There is no suspending belief on this one. Air Force 1 had to be some where close to Marwan when it was hit, but what if, for example, IT FLEW BACK TO WASHINGTON?! Or I don’t know, 2 miles in either direction?

Then he required that the football fall out of the plane, and then LAND somewhere near him. Not in a lake, or on a mountain, or through some dude’s roof, or the most likely scenario–it lands in the firey reck of a 747!

How far was he able to drive to get that suitcase, and what was he going to do if it was still in AF1, and still attached to the guy that carries it?

And did he really have the code to get into the suitcase?

And would anyone at any of the missle silos be THAT inept that they couldn’t disable missle?

This really is just too much. Call the show “12” and entertain us for a couple of weeks then end it. It was an interesting story but now I’m just tired.

I’m speculating, but there’s no way that this plot is being run to benefit Islamic terrorists. It’s part of some government coup. There are too many non-Moslems in the mix now. And there is a LOT of money being paid out to these guys to get them to work.

The 9/11 terrorists had to work cheaper than these guys.

It seems more reasonable than somehow launching missiles; finding the location of warheads from the “playbook”. I presume he’d find out which ones weren’t in a minuteman in a bunker somewhere.
Although they didn’t have the combination to open it. :slight_smile:

Is the football designed to withstand an aircraft crash?

On second thought, something is seriously wrong with this entire season.

For example: That situation with the pilot, where Marwan was able to get the martial-arts-hooker to get the married-with-2-kids-pilot to sleep with her 20min before his shift. Then get a guy inside what would be the second most secure military area in order to steal what would be the second most secure aircraft. And I get the impression that all the previous bullshit was to get the President up in AF1 so that they could get the football…

So IF he could do all that, why not apply all those skills/resources and get a guy that works AT THE SILO to sleep with the hooker. Send Connan O’Brian in there and use all the codes (that are so easy to get) directly–whole thing could be wrapped up in about 3 hours.

I think that CTU needs to address some budgeting problems. They seem to have all sorts of money to ferry people around by helicopter yet there seems to be no money for assault rifles or SMGs. What’s up with that?

Did anyone else notice that the briefcase looked nothing like a football? Oh, the shame!

Don’t kid around. With the quality of writing this season, if it did look like a football the writers would have the football land in a football factory. Then there would be a gunfight between the terrorist and CTU while Jack and Marwan rummage through the pile of footballs looking for the ‘nucular’ one.

Ohhh, the tension.

He had inside info on where the plane was going to go (headed to LA), that’s not particularly hard to believe compared to everything else.

They managed to find the GPS thing in the suitcase, so that might not have been THAT big of a coincidence either.

In a bigger sense, though, it is kind of annoying. Are we supposed to think that each of the previous things was just a distraction so Marwan could get to the next, bigger phase? That’s hard to believe. Where do you go from here already? But it’s also hard to believe that he’s just activating a new sleeper cell every time he runs away from Jack. Shouldn’t he tell some operatives ELSEWHERE in the USA to get moving? He’s doing everything by himself. You would think they’d have a good chance of success, since CTU would be caught off guard and Jack wouldn’t be there.

Anybody else starting to think Jack was wrong last week, the thing about ‘people are going to remember that we stopped you?’ So far Marwan melted down a nuclear plant and killed what, tens of thousands? Then he set off big riots in LA and blew up Air Force One, killing or critically injuring the President. Even if he doesn’t do anything else, I think people are gonna remember that, not think “eh, coulda been worse.”

If you imagine the show as a cartoon or comic book then it all suddenly becomes plausible.

Did anyone catch Jack’s cell phone number when he gave it to the hapless civilian with the football? I noticed it wasn’t a 555 number or something else obviously fake, but I didn’t write it down.

The show could be called 48.

But I have to agree, after this “day”, the news reports are probably going to be pretty dismal. Will probably bump the Michael Jackson trial to page two.

No crap. Everytime he goes into a situation like that, I’m screaming “There are multiple armed terrorists inside and you know it - why aren’t you packing something stronger than your trusty handgun??” He used to be in some supersecret force team that blew buildings and crap, he’s gotta be used to using a nice assault rifle.