Not often do I watch a premiere of a show and respond with “Wow…” I can’t wait till next week.
Great idea, and great execution.
I liked it too. Don’t want to post any spoilers so I won’t say what happened on the plane but I can’t wait to find out what the hell that was about.
Well, I was impressed and I’m about as jaded about TV drama/action/adventure as you can get. I usually am not a Keifer fan, but I’m willing to give this show a shot if only FOX will stick with it.
I thought it was good, too.
Bummer I have a MUN conference next week…
I thought it was really cool, although some bits were predictable.
I hate to “Me, too” but I’m really looking forward to next week. And I usually don’t like conspiracy things (or maybe I just can’t stand the X-Files, I dunno).
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P.S. The “predictable” things will probably get twisted. Let’s hope, at least.
P.P.S. I would think the small bits of fast-forwarding were because of commercials. Besides, Kiefer’s gotta take a piss sometime, right? 
Obviously we will have to allow a bit of fudging with the time table. All of that did not happen in a mere 60 minutes ! I think its awesome that we have some movie stars acting in a television series. This show comes just in time now that Band of Brothers is over.
Yeah, if it all happened in real time, then it must take Keifer exactly 3 minutes to leave his home and enter his office.
But someone tell me what did happen on the plane. I missed that part.
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I admit I was fooled by the woman on the plane. Nice twist. Overall the show was good. I’ll watch again.
And as for the time, it was fudged a little. The commercials are supposed to be a part of the time, but the parachuter jumped, it went to commercial, I was still peeing when it came back on (ummm…disregard), and there was a small scene with KS and THEN the parachuter pulled the ripcord. That was like three minutes. I know they were cruising at a high altitude, but DANG! Wouldn’t she be splattered in 2 minutes?
Hmmm.
Mr. Athena and I watched the first ten minutes, before we both looked at each other and said “This is stupid.” We both have low tolerance for the style of the show - quick cuts, “hip” angles, lots o’ young beautiful people who are all political geniuses, etc.
Athena, I’m with you and your husband. That multi-screen stuff was really impressive - in 1971, when Lumet directed “The Anderson Tapes.”
As for the rest the over-the-top plot “twists” . . .
BTW, there is another “24” thread dealing with spoiler and predictions.
Well, against my will, I’m hooked.
I had no interest at all in this show.
I was going to watch “Smallville” because the first few were sort of okay, but after the first two minutes I decided it was the same old stupid crap.
So I switched around and decided what the heck, I’ll watch a bit of “24” and see what all the hype is about.
Shit. I’m hooked.
Well, I thought it was interesting. I’ll hold out for a couple more weeks. Hot lady parachuting assassins, fine. Squeaky clean Hero CIA guy with family troubles, fine. Daughter getting kidnapped by creepy college dudes, fine.
But why on God’s Green Earth do they have to come up with lines like, “If I give you a phone number, can you hack in and tell me all the internet password associated with it?”
THAT DOESN’T MAKE ANY GODDAMN SENSE.
OK, I know you’re just screen writers. But how much effort does it take to pay some geek $50 to come up with a line that would at least fool the luddites into thinking it made sense? How hard would it have been to say, “Can you crack SuperGlobalHyperMegaNet and get me the password for my daughter’s account?”
Not that much different, but gets one less groan from the audience.
(Don’t flame me about how sneaking a bomb onto a 747 and jumpin out of the door at the last minute with a parachute isn’t plausible. That doesn’t count, because it was done by a Sexy Assassin.)
I’m with ya there, man. That was the worst line of the show. And it so easily could have been:
"My daughter’s email address is ‘jane@mailzone.com,’ - can you hack in to mailzone and get her password?
Of course they’d have to come up with a fake domain, lest the real life users of that service get worried about their password safety. 
As for the computer thing, I wonder if they thought that making it just ‘hack into the ISP’ would make it seem too much like they were ordinary criminal-types, rather than shadowy governmental types abusing their power.
I figured the ‘phone number’ thing meant either, ‘access their modem’ (of course, the service provider owns the modem, so that’s tantamount to cracking the provider), or that they tap every single phone line associated with a modem, pull all the data sent and decrypt it if necessary and put that into a database, which would be about a million times harder than just getting to the provider, of course.
*** SPOILER SPACE **** for eternal’s question
Did you see on the plane there was the man in the seat hitting on the woman next to him? He was set up as Mr. Obvious Bad Guy, telling her he was a photographer (possible pun on ‘shoot’ at some point, we would have expected). When she asked to see his work, he grabbed the flight magazine and just flipped to any page, saying, “Oh, yeah, how is this one?”.
Well, it turns out that it’s the woman who’s the villain. She goes to the back of the plane and knocks out the stewardess. Then she pulls a bomb out of the on-board fire extinguisher, grabs a bag which is actually a parachute, and exits just before the bomb explodes.
Here’s where they had a nice touch. In contrast to every show that ever gets this wrong, she actually had to use explosives to blow off the emergency exit (they don’t open outward, to make them unopenable at altitude due to cabin pressure). In addition, she uses this to get pushed out of the plane.
That scene made it pretty obvious why the show didn’t premiere on its originally planned date.
Before everybody hops onto the “most implausible line” bandwagon…
How’s this for an explanation:
The government agency taps the phone lines of all its employees for security purposes. They also monitor modem transmissions. When someone sends a password over, the monitoring software sniffs the packets and stores any passwords it finds into a database. Keifer didn’t want to tell the hacker who was being searched, so he typed in his daughter’s dedicated modem line number and a quick database lookup returned the only password recently used on that line.
If the email service is using lame Basic Login, it is a simple matter to Base64 decode the header information, since the daughter is probably not using SSL access. If the transmissions were encrypted, presumably a number of large government mainframes and plenty of time for number crunching would eventually decode those passwords.
Since the producers did not want to put the audience to sleep, they decided to leave the explanation on the cutting room to fend off complaints of “too much hand holding” from their fickle audience.
Count me on the side of “nay”. The show was okay, but after all the hype, I was left unimpressed. Well, not that unimpressed. I was amazed that Keifer Sutherland lived 5 minutes from his office, boy did he get a nice deal on his house!
I found it a bit plodding, and before the commerical break when it said 12:22, I was like, oh, there’s THAT much time left in the show?
It also seemed to be awfully cliched- Kiefer Sutherland, the do-gooder counter terror agent who turned in his own people, but struggles each day with “crossing that line”, and balancing home and work.
Nice concept, but with one possible fatal flaw: at least with other TV series, an entire epsidoe shows you dramatic highlights of a person’s life over a day or so, or even a week on average. Now you are asking the audience to believe that this much exciting shit takes place in this guys life in only one hour of his life. In addition, geographically, it’s limiting. Unless the producers are willing to keep Sutherland on a jet for 3-4 episodes, he best stay in Los Angeles.
I’m going to watch it next week, just to give it one more chance, but frankly, it doesn’t live up to the hype. 
I agree- what was with those three squares on the screen at once? Yuck. I was planning on watching the show just for Kiefer :), but his character just isn’t as fun as he was in his other movies…now he’s become a tool of the establishment. Like “Flashback” but not as quirky.
I watched the first half hour, and it seemed a little cliched. You know, the cool main hero doing something radical like shooting guy with dart…Ugh, and his daughter is utterly irritating. I really hope she doesn’t get rescued by the end of the season- but I’m sure she won’t die. Ah well. I wish I could go on watching, but I don’t think I could bring myself to waste an hour a week on it…No offense to those who liked it.
Watched a tape of this last night… all in all it wasn’t bad, but MAN is it cliched! I was pissing off my friends by telling them what was going to happen next (without having seen it before).
I was kind of wondering about how far Keifer lived from his office, too…