http://michaelmoore.com/trumpwillwin/
Personally I have thought before that it would be interesting if Trump won… though I live in Australia so I wasn’t really worried about the consequences.
Yeah but he also thought Romney would win in 2012. Put this down as clickbait, of course if he said Clinton was going to win that wouldn’t make news would it? Nate Silver he is not.
I think he is being strategic. He thinks that Trump voters are enthusiastic and will vote for Trump, but many who are against Trump don’t like Hillary so will be apathetic and so not vote against Trump.
So I think MM is taking a pessimistic stand to try to stir anti-Trump voters into doing the needful.
If democrats assume he has no chance of winning perhaps that will lead to the possibility of him winning.
As I said in another thread, his position is really kind of safe for him, because he wins either way: either he’s relieved at the outcome, or he has an I told you so.
If he really were THAT pessimistic, why would he bother to even offer his thoughts on Trump’s weak spot?
I dunno…I desperately want Hillary to beat Trump, but even if she does, this country and indeed the world seems headed toward a state of widespread turmoil. Trumpism, Brexit, the pending decline of the EU, collapse of stable (though brutal) Middle East regimes, the movement of Turkey away from NATO, the possible dissolution of NATO…all of these are related to each other. We’re witnessing the decline of the post WWII economic and political system, largely created by the United States. This will have profound consequences for everyone, and I doubt a single candidate is up to the task of stopping it. The best we can hope for is to have someone level-headed enough to recognize our problems and not overreact or to make dumb decisions that make matters worse.
Is there really a need for a point by point rebuttal?
That said…
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What the hell, pollsters?
Or voters?
The news this morning is discussing the Trump bump and DWS’s resignation. I am utterly dismayed.
I’m a Republican, and I am not voting for Trump.
Who is?? Why??
:eek:
:smack:
Political pundit sincerely concerned about America’s future, exaggerates hoping to energize voters. For your next posts, we want citations on dogs biting man. Or comment on the nuances of 2+2=4.
The prediction markets were showing 30% chance of GOP White House, but today that’s pipped up to 31%. Is this plausible? I’m not sure but I’m not betting against it. Anyone who thinks 31% is way too high has a chance to “put money where mouth is” for much much better odds than obtain in the stock market.
Will many Rust-Belt whites who chose Stay-at-Home or Obama over the unpersonable Romney in 2012 come out and vote against the hated woman so they can Make America Great again? Not so far-fetched, particularly since we know both Daesh and Putin are rooting for it and may manipulate October events accordingly.
I hope and pray that should the Democrats nominate someone as thoroughly repulsive as Trump, that I will also be able to vote against my party as some of the Republicans here will do this year, to their credit.
Who is the Trump voter? What do they want? I think mostly closet racists who now feel empowered by Trump who says what they have been thinking for years. Also those who think Benghazi!™ is a disqualifying scandal by virtue of repetition.
As much as I love Michael Moore and as proud as I am to see him wearing Spartan gear on television, he’s trying to rally the base and make us not become overconfident to the point where we stay home.
You need to think about those consequences a bit more.
It’s the same forces that have elected Derryn Hinch, Pauline Hansen, Jacquie Lambie and Clive Palmer.’ And they only held the balance of power.
I think all reasonable people are struggling for an answer to that question. Here’s one, by a lifetime Republican surrogate that’s eloquently worded, but too little, too late:
Above is an excerpt from a link posted in another thread by E-DUB.
Stupid white men with irrational anger are a mighty political force in this country, but they are not a majority.
If ordinary well-read Republicans who retain an ounce of reason would follow Bricker’s example and vote for Hillary, all would be saved. But I’m afraid even many intelligent Republicans have been mesmerized by all the nasty right-wing rhetoric over the years and will follow the lemmings off the cliff.
Bush, Bush, Romney, and a few Senators have come out strongly against the Donald. I hope those who don’t speak out are branded in shame for the rest of their careers.
I now understand how helpless a lot of anti-Hitler Germans must have felt in 1933. They voted against him, for what it was worth.
If he wins, I wonder how long it will be until we are breaking the glass of Muslim-owned businesses?
The parallels are truly frightening.
Muslims, Sikhs, latinos… or heck, just anybody who has a “strange” lastname.
The problem as I see it is that there will be no shame unless Trump wins and turns out to be the disaster that he appears to be. Otherwise, it will be just another Republican loss.
You must be planning to leave the country now, right? If not, then maybe the parallels aren’t quite what you think say are.
I think people are a too complacent about Trump’s chances and I think that’s were MM is coming from. Hillary is till going to have to fight the good fight to win, but it’s hers to lose. The frightening thing is that she seems to be rather good at losing under those circumstances…
Remember what some of the pro-Brexit voters said after the results were in?
“Gee. I never thought there was actually a chance that the vote to exit the EU would win! If I had thought that, I never would have voted for it. I sure wish I could change my vote!”
Yeah. That.
That’s called “Regretsit”.
By and large, the people who are planning to vote for Trump are doing so primarily, if not exclusively, because they are afraid that Clinton would be even worse.
https://www.rt.com/usa/342045-clinton-trump-negative-partisanship/
As I posted in another thread recently, that is precisely why I am voting for Trump. There’s probably a dozen Democrats that I would vote for if they were running instead of Clinton.