giulani has been disbarred over the election fraud claims. he can not practice law effective immediately in new york.
That’s fantastic news. Usually, that will trigger reciprocal action in any other state where’s he’s admitted (if any, I don’t recall).
he is suspended in dc right now. i believe he only had ny and dc.
Proud Boy turns on his former compadres and receives probation for his actions on 1/6.
I’m thinking he should be watching his back for a long time.
Change his name, move, and leave no forwarding address.
U.S. begins dropping Jan. 6 obstruction charges against Proud Boys, others
The Supreme Court’s June ruling narrowing use of an obstruction charge for Jan. 6 defendants is leading to misdemeanor plea deals for some Capitol riot defendants.
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Federal prosecutors have begun moving to drop charges accusing Jan. 6 defendants of obstructing Congress’s confirmation of the 2020 presidential election results, offering new plea deals after the Supreme Court last month restricted the government’s use of that count, according to court filings.
Some beneficiaries include members of the extremist Oath Keepers and Proud Boys who are not accused of other felony offenses, but whose leaders were convicted of conspiring to use force to oppose the peaceful transfer of presidential power from Donald Trump to Joe Biden.
…Prosecutors are responding to the Supreme Court’s June 28 decision that the Justice Department cannot broadly apply a federal statute that makes it a crime to corruptly obstruct or impede an official proceeding to Congress’s election certification session. The court ruled that the law applied only to impairing or destroying evidence such as records or documents.
As many as 259 Jan. 6 defendants who were convicted or awaiting trial on the count may seek to vacate their convictions, sentences or plea deals, although most of them might not benefit much because they are convicted of other felonies.
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Things are unraveling.
…things fall apart; the center cannot hold; mere anarchy is loosed upon the world…the best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity…and what rough beast, its hour come round at last, slouches toward Bethlehem to be born?
No, it is just the Obstruction of Justice charges, which were kinda doubtful to start.
That was my impression as well, when I read the summaries of the majority and dissent in the Circuit Court, and looked at the text of the offence.
As I said before, I do not want to hijack the thread about Trump being confused. So I’ll reply to you in an actual relevant thread.
Yes, you absolutely can overstate how close we came because you just did. The crackpot theory that they came up with was not going to work. This is a myth perpetuated by irresponsible clickbait articles like this one:
Oh! What a dramatic title! We came so close! It almost worked!
Yet, you read the actual article and it’s BS. All that the article concludes is that if Pence had tried to follow through, there is some uncertainty about what would happen because it would be unprecedented. There would have been a big mess. That’s really all the article concludes. The early statements about “how it almost succeeded” is belied by the rest of the article.
I have yet to see a cogent argument based on fact that it could have really succeeded. The most I’ve seen is that it could have been worse, and I can believe that.
There was zero percent chance it would have ended with a President Trump. There was no authority for that to happen. I see nothing that disagrees with that basic, simple fact. That doesn’t mean it would have ended well. I’m sure it wouldn’t. But if the goal was for the scheme to end with Trump serving a second term as POTUS, that was never going to happen.
Again: look at histories’ successful coups.
None of them looked to amount to much, until they did.
I’m pretty sure that if Pence did not certify it, it would have gone to the House for a vote. That’s where we get a President Trump (One vote per state, so Wyoming has as much power as California)
Next time wil be different:
You have to get out and vote. You won’t have to do it anymore. Four years, it will be fixed, it will be fine. You won’t have to vote anymore… In four years, you won’t have to vote again.
(from Twitter, for what it’s worth)
You have to admit it is a good plan. Much better than waiting until the last moment while not knowing whether the Vice President will do his part. Just cancel the next elections from the start and declare tanTrump inmortal.
“Foxmania” is like “weird” in that I hope they both catch on and become common slang.
Smells a bit like the Twinkie defense.
It worked. Dan White was only convicted of manslaughter instead of premeditated murder.
Of course, the “Twinkie defense” was presented not as the cause of Dan White’s diminished capacity, but as evidence of it.
So would that mean the defence is:
“I must be crazy! I watch Fox!”
Well, that’s not even controversial.
If I was on the jury, I would certainly think long and hard about that.