You putrescent excrescence upon the face of this planet, a 14 year old girl who is looking after a 1 year old is not going to be so infatuated with your vacuum-cleaner selling body that she just have to have sex with you right there on the couch while holding the baby in her arms! Especially not with a 10 year old in the next room. Even if she was damaged enough to consider doing such a thing, there’s no way you should have done so. A simple “no” would have sufficed; I believe her when she says she said it, and there is no doubt whatsoever in my mind that you have heard that phrase a great many times in your stinking pathetic turd of an existence. I can only assume that since no female with anything resembling taste would be desperate enough to touch you, that you spent far too long surfing the seamier corners of the Internet and confused your sick, twisted fantasies with reality. Fuck you? No. That is exactly what you’d like to believe women want to do to you. Instead, I wish something far crueler and closer to reality on you: May you never, ever have sex again.. May you want it with ever fiber of your sniveling excuse for a being but never receive it. May your penis shrink to a size a 1 year old would be proud of so that every time you see it you are reminded of the size of your soul. Finally, may you have the horrendous experience of realizing just what a pitiful wretch you are.
And I know that it’s her job, and she’s been assigned the responsibility, but the defense attorney, a WOMAN, bringing up the fact that the girl wasn’t wearing underwear at the time also makes me sick.
If there was no consent it is clear that it is rape. However if the salesman is right (In dubio pro reo) it wouldn’t be, at least not in every country.
For example in mine it would be another thing call Estupro. That is if you have sex with a minor of 15, however judges are not specially fond of this criminal figure because parents usually try “to get even” with the boyfriend with it.
What I am saying is that “age of consent” has a lot to do with your culture.
“Unfortunately” for the guy, he should have been selling encyclopedias. Then he could have looked up the Age of Consent for Pennsylvania. He might have saved himself a long prison sentence. It doesn’t matter that the girl did or didn’t say yes or no. She was under 16 and can’t give consent.
Why, why, why is the absence of underwear mentioned ? Exactly what does it have to do with her being raped ? Was she wearing socks ? That’s just as important.
Grrrrr. I hope he realises what he’s done and has to live with that the rest of his life. I hope she can move on and leave this behind her, or at least get some closure.
Why are so many people here assuming he’s guilty of forcible rape? His guilt remains to be proven.
In any event, it’s certainly inappropriate to have sex with a one year old child present. That alone is cause for alarm.
Whether legal or not, a 23 year old having consensual sex with a 14 year old is probably an unwise decision.
If I were a gambling man, I’d bet that this guy probably is pathetic, sleazy, and guilty …but I wouldn’t gamble with another person’s life…I will wait for a proper guilty verdict before I condemn him.
Everyone is aware that he hasn’t been found guilty right?
She could have consented and then made-up the rape story to protect her image from embarrassment.
I’m trying to defend what he did; it’s clearly wrong to engage in such acts with a person so young even with consent. It seems a little premature to condemn him from raping the girl when all you have to go on is a preliminary (and probably biased) news article.
Chris, I think the point is…even if she said “come over here big daddy and make sweet sweet love to me”, he should have said “no, LITTLE GIRL.” If ONLY because it was illegal.
The fact that he either a)forcibly raped her OR b)accepted a fourteen year old girl’s request for sex, to me at least, makes him pathetic and sick and sleazy.
My cousin’s son is four, he walks around naked saying he “wants to stick his pee pee somewhere”. my lack of sleazy patheticness causes me to refrain from offering him sex.
…she shouldn’t even have listened to his pitch. When I babysat, and earlier, when I was sat for, it was drilled in to me that you do not interact with outsiders for longer than it takes to dismiss them. She should have sent him on his way. And why on earth didn’t her mom say, “A salesman?! Get him out of there!!”
Chris Luongo, this case first made the news a few weeks ago. I don’t know if you read the link, but the was at a friend’s house babysitting a 1 year old boy and there was also a 10 year old boy in the next room. Based on her story and the circumstances as described by both sides, I’m having a hard time believing the sex was consensual.
Two things about this case particularly bother me. First, this is the second time in 6 months or so the excuse “She wanted it” has been used. The first time was when a woman was tied up and raped by a trucker in a bathroom in a bar in the Strip District. She was there with a male friend or relative and reported the rape immediately, but the accused (and convicted) still tried to claim that it wasn’t rape because she really wanted to have kinky sex with a complete stranger in a bathroom.:rolleyes:
The other thing is, this girl is 14 years old. I have real problems with an adults having sex with adolescents. While I realize levels of maturity and responsibility vary (and, quite frankly, the girl sounds a lot more responsible than the man), IMHO, the onus is still on the adult to say no.
Sorry, this sounds like a horrendous acting out of a sleazy grade Z porno fantasy – “Hot Babysitter Gets Down and Dirty With the Door-To-Door Salesman.” Until he realizes the horror of what he’s done, even if it was consensual, I have only contempt for this pathetic waste of DNA.
spooje, you are correct that it is not possible to be LEGALLY consentual, but it sure as hell is possible that it was consentual. Now, any 23 year old guy who wants to have sex with a 14 year old has serious issues, and is pretty sick…but there are lots of 14 year old girls who want to have sex. If this was one such girl, the guy had a repsponsibility to say no, and if he’s guilty, he failed and should go to jail…
14 year olds are old enough to make a decision, but often times not old enough to fully understand the ramifications of such a decision. sorry…I just love to debate semantics.
If she were wearing shorts and sitting in the right position, it could be - um - evident. Perhaps he has not yet realized that all girls are naked under their clothing, and took this as an invitation.
I don’t get it - there’s just so many things wrong with this. Don’t you thing that it should’ve dawned on him at some point that having sex with
A) a girl he has never seen before in his life
B) who is very young
C) while she’s holding an infant
is just a little wrong? EVEN IF she’d consented? Stupid bastard.
Well, you notice no direct quotes were given. I wouldn’t be surprised if this factoid was presented to the court a little differently than it’s being reported in the news.