A chilling new type of Denialist

Yep. And I forgot to put it in quotes above to indicate I was quoting the BIQ’s assertion. I screwed up. :smack:

I think this has already been answered above:

You know who else never personally caused physical injury to anyone, ever?

The provided links to the sun aren’t examples of using it as a nickname. They’re headline puns. I’ll repeat it more slowly: For it to be a nickname it has to replace the name, like “O’barmy visits the UK”, in the headlines provided it replaces adjectives.

You keep repeating the assertion that it’s a common nickname, and yet the evidence you’ve provided only shows your shoddy regard for providing decent cites.

Now waitaminnit! He gave a perfectly valid reason for that:

:smiley:

The multiple references I have given show that, yes, it’s a pun, but is it now the commonly used nickname (affectionate indeed in many cases) in common usage in the UK. The English love their nicknames for public persons. Waitie Katie (Princess…) has now become Lazie Katie (unfairly). For example, the respected weekly blog of Prof Chris Brand uses these nicknames almost exclusively - it’s hard to read at first blush. Go to any pub in the UK and you will hear O’Barmy in constant use (You will also hear “Let’s go down to the P*** shop” hundreds of times but no one thinks of calling the police for this.)

AFAIK this has not been listed as Hate Speech. The various Illegal-combatting orgs. are insistent on using the word. (FAIR, NumbersUSA, Christians against Illegal Immigration, P*****-Off Conservatives) You must take it up with them. Good luck.

Their using the term 1) is not justified and 2) does not in any sense justify your using it.

Here is a longer extract.
Respectfully, I’m sure you (and any intelligent person) can suss-out from this that each Campus goes down the Admissions list, inserts hundreds of Illegals to taste, and thereby clobbers US Citizen Californians. I prefer not to do any further ‘legwork’ as this would be gilding the lily. You could also contact each Campus admission officer and get their response. My best wishes for your continued research.

Judicial Watch Challenge in California

The UC Office of the President estimates that, as of November 2013, 900 students enrolled at UC schools were unlawfully present aliens, approximately 95 percent of whom were undergraduates. Assuming that all of these students qualified for a tuition exemption, the value of this benefit would be approximately $19.6 million (900 students x 95% x $22,878 per student = $19,560,690).
UC has estimated that some 800 undergraduates will qualify for taxpayer-funded Cal Grants worth about $7 million and that approximately 300 of these undergraduates are unlawfully present aliens. UC also has estimated that some 440 unlawfully present aliens exempted from paying nonresident supplemental tuition at UC schools will qualify for approximately $4.3 million in UC grants and scholarships.
The taxpayer lawsuit seeks a judgment declaring the expenditures unlawful and an injunction, “permanently prohibiting Defendant from expending or causing the expenditure of taxpayer funds or taxpayer-financed resources” for either tuition waivers or financial aid benefits to illegal aliens. The suit argues that if the court does not intervene, “The Board of Regents … will continue to expend substantial taxpayer funds and taxpayer-financed resources exempting unlawfully present aliens from paying nonresident supplemental tuition at UC schools and allowing unlawfully present aliens attending UC schools to apply for and participate in state-administered financial aid programs.”

Again, take it up with the various orgs., and see what kind of answer you get. The word ‘illegal’ is most certainly used in the applicable Federal Law and case histories. It is justified because it is legally accurate. You can use ‘undocumented’ or ‘paperless’ all you want.

I don’t think I’ll be using it in this thread, thankyouverymuch. The terms “bigoted jackass”, “self-important dickweed” and/or “idiot[del]/savant[/del]” might pop up occasionally.

Really, that’s like saying the n-word is acceptable because White Nationalist organizations use it.

Cite?

I prefer “impermissive immigrant” (my own coinage), because they’re in the U.S. without the required official permission. People are never “illegal,” and “undocumented” implies that the only problem is that they forgot to fill out some paperwork and all would be well if they had.

Well, at least we now know that making up definitions for actual English words is not the full extent of your creative work.

Cite:

Immigration Reform and Control Act (IRCA) of 1986. The IRCA toughened criminal sanctions for employers who hired illegal aliens,
Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act (IIRIRA) of 1996 revolutionized the process of alien entry into the United States.
Jeez, right there in the title.

Could you look up the word “Disingenuous” for us?

1986?

I’ve been in many pubs in the UK (where I live) and have never heard it in use, not even from drunken people being critical of Obama. And since you haven’t read your “multiple references” you apparently aren’t aware that they don’t support your assertion even though this has been explained to you several times already.

And assuming that the word you’re blanking out is “Paki”, I’ve never heard anyone say “Let’s go down to the Paki shop” once, let alone hundreds of times. One wonders what company you keep, that uses such language with casual regularity.

As for Chris Brand, the circles within which he is “respected” are very small indeed, although they may well include you.

You can’t “for example” a single blog that you obviously already have a hard on for. You need to pick something that’s actually a representable sample. Browsing through the first page shows clearly that your respected blog is the writings of a major asshole.

And if I go into a pub in the UK I expect I might go a whole evening without hearing anyone discussing the US president at all. If I happen to walk into a racist shithole I wouldn’t be surprised I might eventually hear them use O’barmy, but that’s still not the same as it being “the commonly used nickname”. Unless you mean “Well only a tiny minority use anything other than Obama, but of the ones using a nickname, the majority are the assholes using O’barmy”.

How about you show a single “affectionate” use of O’barmy as a nickname?

Jeez, an example right here on this thread (I’m sure you can bring up the entire QUOTE)

“But neither Access nor VBA is even close to being the same thing as Visual Stu–”
“IT EXPERT!!!”