Case in point: you mention Plomin and you just confirmed once again what I see from “scientific” racists, besides being considered controversial that researcher also talks about genes** involved in the inheritance of intelligence**, as it is the case with other items I mentioned you missed that I have not much of a problem with that because I see that all “races” have that capacity.
He carries the reek of Vexatious Litigant, too.
Maybe some tempus cubus, also.
GIGObuster: Re cites for IQ: See Richard Lynn: Race Differences in Intelligence: An Evolutionary Analysis , and The Global Bell Curve. I’m sorry I will have to continue to view this as a closed issue. For a continuing discussion of these topics sign on to Chris Brand; gfactor.blogspot.com.
“The same lack of cites about the outcome of the cases also shows that we are more correct, you cannot be trusted as a reliable source.” No you are not correct, and I am most certainly a reliable source. These cases are easily available in the usual Federal District Court sources (F.2nd)– all of them. (Let me know if you have difficulty)
To repeat I am perfectly happy with the outcomes, Mensa was dealt a massive smack in the chops ($750,000 legal fees), it’s scum are dead or discredited (and there were a lot more con-artists in the early stages), and Mensa has learned its lesson. Don’t mess w. membership rights for political purposes. My membership in this List was to correct facts re my son Andrew, and also re me (including the Breitbart-unveiled link). My ‘cites’ were perfectly adequate for any reasonable person with access to F.2nd, etc. Anything further to my brief summary could be regarded as padding. My punishment of Mensa is forgotten except for a few old lags. You appear to be totally off-topic on this question of ‘cites’.
Best wishes.
Bryan Ekers: He carries the reek of Vexatious Litigant, too” Oh I don’t know. The $750,000 slap in the face to American Mensa (and its ripoff artists in the early days, all decd., Gabe Werba, Maggot Seitlelman who ran the office which she secretly rented thru a dummy corporation to Mensa for decades - yes, cites are available in NYC land records) were thoroughly deserved. And why stop there? How about my record as the Principal Witness in a successful suit for Racial discrimination by a Prof. which cost DC (Cites in DC Fed. District Court, F.2nd) $1 million? They were not pleased. Vexatious to some, a Public Service to others…
An Attention Whore to all.
FTR, there is no longer a consensus among psychologists that any general intelligence factor or g factor even exists. See Howard Gardner’s theory of multiple intelligences.
An incoherent wall of text to me.
Why are people feeding this troll?
He’s really proud of that $750,000 figure, isn’t he? Mentions it every chance he gets.
To see if it turns to stone in the sun?
To keep it in the pit where it belongs?
Because we’re slaves to causality?
The wall of clueless moron quote style makes it too much of an effort to me to participate further though, even if he was tarping on a subject I was knowledgeable about.
Calatin: “An Attention Whore to all. “ I dispute this. It’s possible I attract attention because I insist on placing constructive criticism on various Lists where others are (sometimes) afraid to do so. It must be my British heritage. On this list someone drew attention to my son Andrew (and to me), which I v briefly corrected (“Abduction”? Guiding a young woman a few feet via her knapsack strap TOWARDS a small crowd so he could address them on ‘bullying’. --however mistakenly and inappropriately-- 10 years for this first offense? Come on now.), and similarly someone brought up the Breitbart-unmasked cr*p re me wh was easily and briefly demolished… Not ‘ attention-getting’; a respectful and brief reply (with or without cites to F.2nd).
BrainGlutton: ‘there is no longer a consensus among psychologists that any general intelligence factor or g factor even exists. See Howard Gardner’s theory of multiple intelligences. ‘ What counts is peer-reviewed research – dumb airy theories can be ignored. There is a 30 years 100 % record (see Jensen) and that’s enough. A few politicians, school boards, have their head stuck up …but the vast majority of organizations, companies. Media and general public know exactly what is what. In the UK there is even movement back to segregated school classes. (Cites: see the Internet, esp. UKIP party). It’s all over, in the UK at least. In the US, see Ann Coulter Adios America but don’t get me started.
Well, there’s feeding in the sense of mocking him, and feeding in the sense of trying to take his statements seriously, trying to distill their meaning, trying to patiently explain their flaws.
I’m comfortably the former. The latter is dumbassery.
Hold on a minute. Someone in this topic STARTED this by referring to my son, and to me (via link to discredited Breitbart-unmasked web page) As required by Internet courtesy and custom I responded - and continue to respond - as briefly as possible. (And it appears multiple CITES are needed). I guess you can dish it out, but can’t take it. May I suggest other topics? The archaic views on Racial IQ belong elsewhere, if anyone is still interested. If there is further info from my son (& I’m trying to set him straight-flipping the bird to a bereaved mom is NOT acceptable), I will promptly communicate it to this List, if permitted.
Fine. Ask Mensa how funny they find the $750,000, and racially-discriminatory DC govt. the same ($1 million. Ouch). Feel free to set forth your problems with meaning, and flaws. I won’t hold my breath.
The board is here to fight ignorance. Right now, you’re a rather easy target.
Oh, I won’t be asking MENSA that, because I don’t believe you. Even if you provide evidence you’re speaking the truth, I won’t believe you. Your only value is in mocking you, which I’ll do until you bore me.
This will probably not take long.
I suspect he ain’t the only one of the family of whom that could be said.
Oddly, one of Mensa’s by-laws is that if takes you more than ten posts to figure out how to use SDMB’s quote function, they don’t let you in.
[Cut for bull crap.]
Just unadulterated bullshit. The only useful thing was to show once again that the same old, same old “scientific” racists are being pointed at, as BrainGlutton points out the consensus has been going the other way.
I developed workarounds for that decades ago. I’ve never had any interest in joining, as I avoid so many of the members I’ve known, but I like tests. I’ll scare up a freebie online for fun.
No it hasn’t. To repeat, in the UK, the winning Conservative party officially admits that the old-fashion classroom streaming concepts need to return. (As a result of pressure from the parents)
The New York Times and Washington Post now keep shtum on the subject. Public Universities admittance based on Race has not been heard of for over a decade. Sandra O’Connor said ‘no problem. Blacks will catch up to whites in a decade.’ Wonder what happened to her. A few school districts continue to flog schools for black-white discrepant performance. ‘Bussing’ has fallen into disfavor. It’s a non-issue as the US goes >50% Hispanic/Black/Asian/Muslim in 2070 or so. (CITES: see internet, American Renaissance etc; also Ann Coulter). To quote Cary Grant “Old scientific racists doing just fine. How you?”